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  1. I I just watched this the other night and love listening and or reading anything Ellroy. There is a book of noir short stories called "The Best American Noir of the century" which is edited by James Ellroy and Otto Penzler. Ellroy also writes the introduction. I'm including a few lines from it. "We created it, but they love it in France more than we do here. Noir is the most scruitinized offshoot of the hard-boiled school of fiction. It's the long drop of the short pier, the wrong man and the wrong woman in perfect misalliance." "The thrill of noir is the rush of moral forfeit and the abandonment to titillation. The social importance of noir is it's grounding in the in the big themes of race, class, gender, and systemic corruption. The overarching joy and lasting appealof noir is that it makes doom fun." "The inhabitants of the Secret Pervert Republic are a gas. They relentlessly pursue the score big and small. They only succeed at a horrific cost that renders it all futile. This society grants women a unique power to seduce and destroy. A six-week chronology from first kiss to gas chamber is common in noir." "The short stories in this volume are a groove. Exercise your skeevy curiosity and read every one. You'll be repulsed and titillated. You'll endure moral forfeit. Doom is fun. You're a perv for reading this introduction. Read the whole book and you'll die on a gurney with a spike in your arm." James Ellroy July 2009
  2. The Thin Man series never fails to amaze me with the amount of drinking. Nora Charles keeps up with husband Nick when she asks how many martinis he's had before she arrived (6). She promptly tells the waiter that she will have 6 and just line them up right here on the table - whew! In another one of the movies, at a hugh party, she orders up several case or scotch and also a "flock" of sandwiches. Maybe that's how they could still walk and talk! Doesn't work for me - I'd be passed out on the floor!!!!
  3. Like many noir fans, I grew up wating these films. Not only was there no cable when I was growing up but I lived in a rural area. I loved all of them but the first one that really got me started on film noir was "The Shanghai Gesture" (1941) directed by Josef von Sternberg. I love the films that take place in the orient such as Shanghai, Hong Kong, Macao etc. The busy atmosphere of these cities seems to add to the sometimes nightmarish scenes in film noir.
  4. What did you notice about Rita Hayworth's performance when you were watching this scene? Her performance shows the desperate lengths that Gilda will go to not only irritate Johnny but to also get back at him for not letting her leave him and/or get a divorce or annulment. This desperation shows in the extreme provocativeness of the performance. The song is a little provocative but Gilda pulls all the stops out with this performance. She appears to have been drinking, she's uncoordinated at times and seems to be glassy eyed. I think that she is doing more than just trying to anger and irritate Johnny. She is trying to shame him hoping that this will make him let her go. She wants the audience to see what type of woman Johnny is married to - promiscuous, amoral and a drunk. The large audience at the club and the music seems to add to the frenzy of the moment. I what ways do you think music influenced and contributed to the development of film noir? Much of the music in film noir reflects and emphasizes the behavior of the characters as well as the dark nature of film noir itself. The music builds tension in the actions of the characters in dramatic scenes such as robberies, killings and chases. It also shows the hopelessness and despair when everything falls apart and many opening scenes have melancholy music that reflects the city at night with it's darkness and loneliness.
  5. I agree that almost everything is a lot of violence, special effects, and blowing up everything. There are also good films but everything seems to be going in the direction of "Bigger, Better, More as far as violence and special effects are concerned. An almost overwhelming and bombarding of the senses. With film Noir, at least for me, there is that constant, taut feeling of not knowing what is going to happen from minute to minute. Even though we know that in Film Noir the ending isn't going to be pretty, we still stay glued to the movie until the end. Our imagination runs wild and to me that is one of the greatest draws.
  6. I always thought I was born to late in time. Love everything 40's and thanks to old relatives I have a lot of old furniture, floor lamps, and other period items I actually use. My favorite is an old cigarette ceramic box. Great environment to indulge in my favorite - film noir. My best friend said "Your house looks like an old movie set. What could I say except "Thank you."
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