kriegerg69

Judy was only in her 30's when she made it...hardly "old". Personally, Fred....I much prefer one of Judy's last films, "I Could Go On Singing". Partially because it's very dramatic and doesn't overdo the music (and also seems to be reflective of her own life), and also because it's fun hearing Judy swear....the only time I can recall ever hearing her cuss on-screen (she says "God***n" in one scene).

> {quote:title=hyedenny wrote:}{quote} > ...but ya are, Blanch - ya ARE there!

> {quote:title=hyedenny wrote:}{quote} > Albert gets the last lick? I won't even go there...

> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote} > Ive been trying to get a date with Elizabeth Taylor. > > http://www.topnews.in/files/Elizabeth-Taylor.jpg

> {quote:title=LonesomePolecat wrote:}{quote} > kriegerg69 , your brilliant comment led me to ask just what the taxes would be on a lifetime supply of chocolate? >

> {quote:title=hyedenny wrote:}{quote} > YIKES!!! She looks like my date: > > Image: http://yesbuthowever.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/000AHELEN.jpg Hyedenny, you poor thing you...

> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote} > I got lucky last week. I had a date with Anita Ekberg. > > http://crimideia.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/anita-ekbergold1.jpg "Oh, puh-LEEZ! That's because Anita was DESPERATE, Frederick!"

> {quote:title=hyedenny wrote:}{quote} > 182 minutes of Judy Garland's annoying vibrato followed by 155 minutes of Barbra Streisand's face and schtick: I will either go insane or turn this crap OFF. How do gay guys enjoy this stuff? I don't....I think Judy's version is extremely overrated. Way too many musical numbers (although Judy herself is a classic) which go on TOO long and detract from the story...and I've never been a particular fan of Babs. For telling the story, I prefer the 1937 version with Janet Gaynor....to me, that IS A Star Is Born.

IMHO, Billy Bob is right...I agree with him. There's simply way too much factory-churned garbage being spewed out of Hollywood these days. Billy Bob said a mouthful....and I believe he was absolutely on-the-nose with his comments.

Someone posted the answer to the question yesterday: http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?threadID=156736&tstart=0 Doh! :-)

People who win big lotteries, or golden tickets and a lifetime supply of chocolate NEVER have to pay taxes to the IRS! :-)

Several reasons I rarely go to theaters anymore: 1. Ridiculous ticket prices and concession prices. 2. Print quality and projection isn't always what it used to be. 3. Movies come out on DVD about three months later, so I just assume wait for a DVD release and then I can watch in the comfort of my home with the sound as I want it to be. 4. Darned commercials and crapola shown before the movies. I've seen maybe three movies theatrically in the past six years: Van Helsing, The Wolfman, and the new Star Trek, mainly because they were films I felt I HAD to see on a big screen...Trek because I'm a Trekkie and want to see any new Trek film theatrically, and the other two because they were retro-homages to classic Universal films.

> {quote:title=fredbaetz wrote:}{quote} > Zounds....How could we overlook "Silent Movie". To quote Marcel Marceau ..." ---- " > > Actually he spoke the only word in the film....."Non" Actually, he said "No!" :-)

> {quote:title=ValentineXavier wrote:}{quote} > I'm surprised no one has mentioned Mel Brooks' *Silent Movie*. Someone did on Page 2 of this thread.

Most of the Poe films directed by Roger Corman had a dream or nightmare sequence which was usually done in muted colors, almost suggesting black & white.

> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=markfp2 wrote:}{quote} > > > {quote:title=kriegerg69 wrote:}{quote} I wouldn't consider this one so "rare" because TCM does show it now and then (how I got it recorded a few years ago), and it has been released on DVD by MGM/Warner. > > > > I think the word "rare" gets used far too much. A film that's available on DVD, is shown on TCM, from time to time, and is available to watch for free online, isn't close to being rare. To me a rare film is one with few existing copies which usually are in an archive or private collection and for whatever reason not available for viewing. > > No, that is a "very rare" film. I agree with Mark that "rare" gets used way too often. "Very rare" is subjective, I think. Fred, you describe the definition of "rare". Mine would be a film which hardly ever....if at all...gets shown on tv and has NEVER been released on home video in any format. That, to me, is "rare".

I can't think of an example of what misswonderly described, but in just the opposite direction, The Wizard of Oz (1939) does the opposite: the real world is black & white, and the dream world is in color.

This is my favorite of all the versions done of the story...everything in it seems just so right. "Mighty Mountain", the main song Robeson sings in the film, is a great tune and IMHO should have gotten an OScar nomination for Best original Song. I wouldn't consider this one so "rare" because TCM does show it now and then (how I got it recorded a few years ago), and it has been released on DVD by MGM/Warner.

There is a thriller that was made just two years ago called SILENT, a sort of horror homage about a black & white silent world in which one young woman suddenly acquires a voice and is the only one who can speak amongst all the other characters in the film who are silent. I guess this would also go into that other current thread about color vs. black & white movies.

> {quote:title=Carvel wrote:}{quote} > In *Wings of Desire* (1987) the angels see the world in b&w. When one angel becomes a mortal, he sees the world in color. Those who complained about PLEASANTVILLE would probably also have something to say about that film too.

> {quote:title=csnarzyk wrote:}{quote} > There is a reason we went to talkies. So don't watch silents....good lord, whine, whine whine. I suppose you also don't like movies which are black & white,or mono sound instead of stereo, or not made in widescreen, etc. Explain "There is a reason we went to talkies"....there's just something uneducated about that statement. Personally, I've always enjoyed silents ever since I was a young teen....to me a good movie is a good movie, regardless of whether it has sound or color or is widescreen, etc. Reminds of the song "Stereophonic Sound" from Silk Stockings: *Today to get the public to attend a picture show,* *It's not enough to advertise a famous star they know.* *If you want to get the crowds to come around* *You've gotta have glorious Technicolor,* *Breathtaking CinemaScope and* *Stereophonic sound.* *If Zanuck's latest picture were the good old-fashioned kind,* *There'd be no one in front to look at Marilyn's behind.* *If you want to hear applauding hands resound* *You've gotta have glorious Technicolor,* *Breathtaking CinemaScope and* *Stereophonic sound.* *The customers don't like to see* *The groom embrace the bride* *Unless her lips are scarlet* *And her bosom's five feet wide.* *You've gotta have glorious Technicolor,* *Breathtaking CinemaScope or* *Cinerama, Vista Vision, Superscope or* *Todd-A-O and* *Stereophonic sound,* *And Stereophonic sound.* *You all remember Lassie,* *That beloved canine star.* *To see her wag her tail* *The crowds would come from near and far,* *But at present she'd be just another hound* *Unless she had glorious Technicolor,* *Breathtaking CinemaScope and* *Stereophonic sound.* *I lately did a picture at the bottom of the sea-* *I rasseled with an octopus and licked an anchovy,* *But the public wouldn't care if I had drowned* *Unless I had glorious Technicolor,* *Breathtaking CinemaScope and* *Stereophonic sound.* *If Ava Gardner played Godiva* *Riding on a mare* *The people wouldn't pay a cent* *To see her in the bare* *Unless she had glorious Technicolor,* *Cinecolor or* *Warnercolor or* *Pathecolor or* *Eastmancolor or* *Kodacolor or* *Any color and* *Stereophonic sound,* *And Stereophonic,* *As an extra tonic,* *Stereophonic sound.*

> {quote:title=Im4movies2 wrote:}{quote} > My friend went to school with Barbra Streisand and she was so shy and quiet back then no one had a clue to what she would become. Babs is still like that, except when she performs. One of the great singing voices, but I've never especially cared for her or understood her popularity.

> {quote:title=MyFavoriteFilms wrote:}{quote} > I forgot to mention ARMAGEDDON and THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW. Recent ones that have signaled a revival of the genre. Hardly a "revival", I think....for years several cable channels like Lifetime and Hallmark seem to have become "disaster channels", especially Hallmark, with their never-ending streams of made-for-tv disaster movies. This has been going on since the mid 1990's, and most of these films are utter garbage (cheapo tv CGI effects-fests) compared to theatrical-release disaster films, and NOTHING will ever top the 70's disaster film era (probably my favorite "guilty pleasure" era of movies). I've been a disaster movie buff since films like Earthquake, Poseidon Adventure, Airport 1975, etc., were all the thing to see back then.

I've never particularly cared for Don Knotts' films...I think Ghost and Mr. Chicken is very overrated (will never understand its popularity), and Don is ten times funnier in his one scene in It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World than he is in the entire Mr. Chicken film. The ONLY film of his which I thoroughly enjoy and think is his best is The Incredible Mr. Limpet, especially considering that most of it is voice-only work for Don....but I love that one particular film and think it's very underrated.

> {quote:title=DougieB wrote:}{quote} > I never even knew there was a color sequence in "The Women" until I saw it on TCM. I've watched it many times over the years since high school, but the prints they sent out to TV stations apparently didn't include the color fashion show, probably to make more room for commercials . More likely so they could have less expensive prints which were entirely in black & white, rather than the expense of having to run off color footage for that sequence and splicing it into every print sent out.