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  1. 17 hours ago, Sepiatone said:

    Odd(maybe not) that HAROLD LlOYD and ABBOTT and COSTELLO were left out of your mix.  

    But then it is difficult to make some choices.  

    Sepiatone

    To Sepiatone, I absolutely adore A & C, but even more so the duo's marvelous & short-lived tv series from (l952-54)  Not as much as their pictures though, except of course the duo's A #1 from '48 "Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein" (Universal)

     

    & personally most historians always rank *G. Burns as #1 all-time finest straight man, close, but for me it William (Bud) Abbott!

    THANX FOR YOU ALWAYS SMART INPUT

     

     

    & you of all know the famous story of Lloyd blowing off 2 of his fingers during  a stunt, another I mostly watch in amazement, but not 4 laughs   (TRIVIA?FUN/FAX: Once saw a TCM special on the true & then still living stuntmen of these comedic giants & they said Harold had one, but none ever heard of a stunt double for Buster)

     

     

    & LOOK FAST AT WHATUS MOVIEGOERS & FANS HAVE TODAY ON THE COMEDIC FRONT: Jack Black, Chris Tucker, Pauly Shore, Zach Galafinakis, Russell Brandt & more???)

  2. Must ALWAYS stick with the legendary scotsmen, his film "Thunderball" a;so won a technical *AMPAS Award, as did 1964's "Goldfinger"

     

    (TRIGVIA: By his own confession, back during the mid 1950's when low-level bagman Johnny Stompanato-(of whom replaced true to life gangster Mickey Cohen) was always beating girlfriend Lana Turner all the time, *Connery once butted in & literally beat the living hell out of him

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  3. This is my #1 all-time favorite film genre & typically Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer's L.B. Mayer-(l885-l957) simply loathed movie comics, look what he did to Buster Keaton!  As *SINATRA later said Mr. Mayer was devoid of any sense of humor.  My own top 3 to 5 all-timers within the genre are>

    1st *Charles (Spencer) Chaplin-(l889-l977)-(though he never made me laugh like Keaton, just watch in amazement!)

    2. Buster Keaton-(l895-l966)

    3. The Marx Brothers-(l929-1949 together)

    4. The Three Stooges-(l934-59 but only in the shorts, the one's with dullard Joe De Rita were more child friendly) I know what your thinkin' low brow)

    5th W.C. Fields-(l879-l946)

    6th fav. Stan Laurel (l890-l965) & Oliver Hardy-(l892-l957)

    7th I forget someone else, I know *"The Woodman"-Woody Allen-(l935-)

     

    & I don't care what all say, Jackie (RALPH KRAMDEN) Gleason (l9l60-87) & Art (Ed Norton) Carney-(l9l8-2003) have given my more laughs then anyone in history! (TRIVIA: Jackie's idols were Jack 0akie & Oliver Hardy & Art's pal (*Cagney) was his

     

     

    THANX 

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  4. This is a topic near & dear to my 53yr old heart. First started collecting movie books at about 14 around '79 & then, came the memorabilia-(my room looks like and old museum)  To date I must own though stopped counting yrs ago approx. 135-150 cinema books. & long wanted this network TCM to have 1 certain topic on this very thing, but I reckon' not.   Or is there one already somewhere on these forums?

     

    My very first movie book I must admit & it was already weather beaten was from New Jersey & from a library, but since we were moving to upstate NJ, I must admit I stole it, The Films of Spencer Tracy"-(P,.S. You can easily get the revised & even the now gone superb citadel series books from Harvest Books in PA. Next book I got is a coffee table book, of which was a gift the tremendous "LIFE: Goes to the Movies"-(which had a 1974 companion pc tv special hosted by Henry Fonda)  Sooo many more fans, but my MOVIE BIBLE IS MR. OSBORNE'S LIKELY FINALE "85yrs of the OSCAR"  WHOM ELSE COLLECTS THESE & AGAIN TRY CITADEL FILMS OF SERIES I have *Sinatra, *Bogey, *Gable, Hitch, *Cagney,metc & they are in print condition from Harvest, not mine anymore   Largest coffee table book my mother got me mid 1980's was on *DAVID O. SELZNICK, though I had little interest in it.  & for yrs they had an annual "Screeen World" then they raised the darn price from about $20 to $60 or more?  **** me off because in that Citadel Series they had lots more coming, including NMATALIE WOOD, but it went bye, bye   THANX

  5. 1 minute ago, jakeem said:

    Bond moribund? I don't think so. If anything, he's more relevant that ever in a dangerous world. And the Bond films have been winning Academy Awards in recent years. 

    I'd also like to see more of Gary Oldman as George Smiley, John le Carré's Cold War-era spy.

     

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    Jakeem, do you like Craig even over James (Sean Connery) Bond?

  6. Someboby on here most know by know the name of the 2nd annual "Guest Programmer"-(Spanish name) more importantly though what film did he vote to air???

     

     

    PLEASE HELP OUT?

     

     

    I've doine numerous articles on us fans & what (4) movies we would choose, apparently npowadays that's only relegated top stars though???

     

    But if I was top choose one & was briefly in "TCM Backlot" just too $expensive$ though for me atr $87.00 per year

     

    I would without pause air *"THE GODFATHER" (l972) but they still for some reason don't have legal rights to air the 1972 masterpiece & *Oscar victor?   & I;'m 100% positive "KANE" has already been spoken for by someone else on air

     

    That leaves me with 1937's Adventure masterpiece "CAPTAINS COURAGEOUS" (MGM) For obvious reasons of course &* if I ever had to choose my all-time favorite movie character it's *Tracy's Manuel Fedillo

     

     

    HOW ABOUT YOURSELVES

  7. 'm certain most will not even takept in this one again, but here itgoes anyway

     

    Most are well aware of 199's 2nd massive survey & poll on CBS-TV of it's AFI's 100 Stars...100 Movies" (poll)-(they unlike "100yrs ...100 Movies only voted for the top (25)  Please just put your own candidate's in order vs. AFI's &  may well be fun? (RULES: All winners must have either started by 1950 or before)   (AKA: SWITCH IF YOU WANT, TO YOUR OWN CANDIDATES)

    Actors: (*-denotes *Oscar)

    1st place *Humphrey Bogart

    2. Cary Grant

    3. *James Stewart

    4. *Marlon Brando

    5th place Fred Astaire

    6. *Henry Fonda

    7. *Clark Gable

    8. *James Cagney

    9. *Spencer Tracy" & 10th place *Charles Chaplin

    Did not include it's top 25 too tedious for most

     

    VS. my own candidates-(top 5 out of 25 only compiled though)>

    1st *Chaplin

    2nd *John Wayne

    3rd *Bogey

    4th *Brando & 5th choice *Gable-(voted "The King of HOLLYWOOD by over 20m movie fans 1938 poll) & by a vote over Cary Grant)

     

    Actresses:

    1st *Katharine Hepburn

    2. *Bette Davis

    3 *Audrey Hepburn

    4. *Ingrid Bergman

    '5th Greta Garbo

    6. Marilyn Monroe

    7. *Liz Taylor

    8. Judy Garland

    9. Marlene Dietrich

    & 10th rated *Joan Crawford

     

    VS. my picks-(& not particularly my favs. chosen on longevity, impact, awards,etc)

    1st *K. Hepburn

    2. *Bette Davis

    3rd Garbo

    4. *Ingrid Bergman & my 5th vote is *Elizabeth Taylor-(barely over Monroe)

     

    (SINS OF OMISSION: *John Wayne shoulda' easily been among the top #3, though obviously to the political climate of even 20yrs back, he was voted ridiculously low???   The icon was in cinema over 48yrs too!)

     

    & STUNNINGLY AFI'S ANNUAL AWARD FOR LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT SNUBBED  *Chaplin, Cary, *"The Duke" *Kate-(though she never would have accepted it anyway), Garbo-(same here), & *Bergman???  *"The Great: Tracy" passed away yr AFI was formed in 1967 & it's first award was in '73-=(to 8Ford) but knowing *Spence he would have also never personally wanted it) 

     

    THANK YOU & HAVE FUN IF YOU LIKE?

     

  8. 17 minutes ago, spence said:

    eANX BUDDY, but they are waaay off, just compare Harrison's hits to Jackson's???   CROSS REFERENCE OTHER PLACES & as far this were' all-American star *Mr. Hanks, again it's an error. I use box-officemojo almost errday

     

    "Forbe;'s" annual lkist though cites highest pd annual stars & I knopw you mean something else of courtse   I'LL ALSO CHECK IMMEDIATELY BUDDY & I THANK YOU AS USUAL   AT LEAST SOME TCM-ITE REPLIED HERE???

    WHATS THEIR PROBLEM ON HERE?

    To LawrenceA, you are on the $$$ here, just checxked it out & do you agree it'as a strange list though?

     

    When Ford was voted by (NATO) for 19984, much has changed since then buddy, huh

     

    Can't fathom that Samuel L. Jackson (l949-) is A #! at ($5,148.1)

    2nd place biggest $B.O.$ grossing current star is Harrison Ford-(l942) ($4,963.8)=-(P.S. though has not only another "Indy" film coming up, but another at almost age 77!)

    3rd place today *Tom Hanks (l956-) ($4,605.6) & a tonnage more coming!

    4th *Morqan Freeman (l937-) ($4,522.2)-(I recall him as a small child on tv';s "Electric Company")

    5th place so far Andy Serkis ($4,333.5)-(FINALLY GETTING HIS EVER TALENTED DUE,NOW THE *ACADEMY NEEDS TO FOLLOW SUIT!)

    6. Robert Downey, Jr. (l965) ($4,281.6)

    7/. Anthony Daniels ($4,040.5)-(A HEAD SCRATCHER???)

    8. Eddie Murphy (l96l-) ($3,811.1) & doesn't even do anything thesedays?

    9. Tom Cruise (l962-) ($3,777.5)

    & 10th all-timer but only for now ($3,755.1)_((P.S. Mark my words Ford will get much hgigher, as will Cruise & where in the...is *J. Lawrence?)

    AND how could we leave out Dwayne "THE ROCK" Johnson???

     

    THANX

     

     

  9. 3 hours ago, LawrenceA said:

    According to Box Office Mojo, the biggest box office star of all time is Samuel L. Jackson. Harrison Ford is #2, followed by Tom Hanks, Morgan Freeman, and Andy Serkis.

    The top actress on the list is Scarlett Johansson at #11, followed by Emma Watson at #20.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/?view=Actor&sort=sumgross

    THANX BUDDY, but they are waaay off, just compare Harrison's hits to Jackson's???   CROSS REFERENCE OTHER PLACES & as far this wera's all-American star *Mr. Hanks, again it's an error. I use bvox-officemonjo almost errday

     

    "Forbe;'s" annual lkist though cites highest pd annual stars & I knopw you mean something else of courtse   I'LL ALSO CHECK IMMEDIATELY BUDDY & I THANK YOU AS USUAL   AT LEAST SOME TCM-ITE REPLIED HERE???

    WHATS THEIR PROBLEM ON HERE?

  10. 16 hours ago, TopBilled said:

    During the hundred years I've been posting here, in all that time, I don't think there's ever been a thread or discussion dedicated to Brian Donlevy. Is it because he blends effortlessly into so many classic films that he's easy to overlook?

    He started as a model, even appeared in some silent films when he was quite young...but his success in Hollywood as a second tier actor didn't begin until the mid-30s. From 1935 to 1969 he appeared in a number of studio films, quite a few of them "A" pictures with important directors.

    16 hours ago, TopBilled said:

    During the hundred years I've been posting here, in all that time, I don't think there's ever been a thread or discussion dedicated to Brian Donlevy. Is it because he blends effortlessly into so many classic films that he's easy to overlook?

    He started as a model, even appeared in some silent films when he was quite young...but his success in Hollywood as a second tier actor didn't begin until the mid-30s. From 1935 to 1969 he appeared in a number of studio films, quite a few of them "A" pictures with important directors.

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    Last night I watched DESTRY RIDES AGAIN. He's fourth-billed and it occurred to me how easy going he was in his scenes with Dietrich. In fact I'd say he had better chemistry with her than Stewart did. I also noticed when he laughed and when the camera was close up on his face that he probably had the best teeth of any male actor during the golden age of Hollywood. Okay perhaps that's a bit of an exaggeration, but look at this winning smile:

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    He often played tough guys, which meant he was cast in a lot of crime dramas, westerns and war films. He certainly relished these kinds of roles.

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    But he could even be counted on to play more vulnerable characters, such as the romantic figure in 1949's IMPACT, which I think is his best performance:

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    If I had to make a list of Brian Donlevy essentials, I'd choose:

    1. DESTRY RIDES AGAIN (1939)
    2. THE GREAT MCGINTY (1940)
    3. THE GLASS KEY (1942)
    4. WAKE ISLAND (1942)
    5. HANGMEN ALSO DIE (1943)
    6. CANYON PASSAGE (1946)
    7. KISS OF DEATH (1947)
    8. KILLER MCCOY (1947)
    9. A SOUTHERN YANKEE (1948)
    10. IMPACT (1949)

    Last night I watched DESTRY RIDES AGAIN. He's fourth-billed and it occurred to me how easy going he was in his scenes with Dietrich. In fact I'd say he had better chemistry with her than Stewart did. I also noticed when he laughed and when the camera was close up on his face that he probably had the best teeth of any male actor during the golden age of Hollywood. Okay perhaps that's a bit of an exaggeration, but look at this winning smile:   As you of all know "G. McGinty's screenplay did score that year, main possible reason is 2 fold they had (3) writing categories then & wanted to award *Sturges an award

     

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    He often played tough guys, which meant he was cast in a lot of crime dramas, westerns and war films. He certainly relished these kinds of roles.

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    But he could even be counted on to play more vulnerable characters, such as the romantic figure in 1949's IMPACT, which I think is his best performance:

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    If I had to make a list of Brian Donlevy essentials, I'd choose:

    1. DESTRY RIDES AGAIN (1939)
    2. THE GREAT MCGINTY (1940)
    3. THE GLASS KEY (1942)
    4. WAKE ISLAND (1942)
    5. HANGMEN ALSO DIE (1943)
    6. CANYON PASSAGE (1946)
    7. KISS OF DEATH (1947)
    8. KILLER MCCOY (1947)
    9. A SOUTHERN YANKEE (1948)
    10. IMPACT (1949)

     

  11. 12 hours ago, TopBilled said:

    Thanks for mentioning his performance in BEAU GESTE. I've never seen TWO YEARS BEFORE THE MAST.

     

    12 hours ago, TopBilled said:

    Thanks for mentioning his performance in BEAU GESTE. I've never seen TWO YEARS BEFORE THE MAST. But nopt a good Adventure though

     

    12 hours ago, TopBilled said:

    Thanks for mentioning his performance in BEAU GESTE. I've never seen TWO YEARS BEFORE THE MAST.

     

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  12. Sorry to tell you Donlevy fans this, but he was truly hated & by all of his co-stars   Most notable in his phenomenal & only nommed role in 1939's "Beau Geste" (strong***1/2)   seen many times on numerous tv specials on *Coop & *Wellmann much were happy when he virtually got stabbed by *Milland in a sequence!  The few actually cheered *Rayon too! & had numerous times where most felt that way about him.   I like Donlevy on screen, "Glass Key" "Great McGinty"   But check it all out!  He was also known to be among the HOLLYWOOD heavyweights to height   Along with *Bogart, Edward G., Raft, of course the tragic Alan Ladd!   *Yul Brynner, Tyrone Power & more

     

    Ladd was the most tragic in this dept though  His mother killed herself in his arms taking booze & ant-paste& he was maybe 20 at best &  his friends in high school nicknamed him "Tiny"   Just saw an hr long bio on Mr. Ladd & they used to have a wall listing certain actors hgts 5'7, 5'8 5'10 & if you were that tall you never got into his picture. As for the ladies, they would either have him stand on a box or dig a hole!   MUSTA' BEEN SO HUMILIATING FOR THE ACTOR   NO MATTER WHAT HE WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED FOR "SHANE!"  After that he went down hill of course. Finally killing himself in somewhat same fashion as his dearly departed moither did, but with booze & sleeping pills in 1964 at only age 50-(I'VE ALSO VISITED HIS NICHE, SAME ROW AS *BURNS & ALLEN, CLARA BOIW & NAT "KING" COLE Very top & at the much nicer "FREEDOM MAUS." GLENDALE'S FOREST LAWN" (P.S. He did one fine swan song from '64 & a hit "The Carpetbaggers" (***)  OF COURSE HIS FINALE! & HE IS LAID TO REST IN THE WALL WITH HIS VEERY LONGTIME LADY MANAGER SUE CAROL LADD & did do a couple other fine films "This Gun For Hire" (***) "The Glass Key"(***1/2) "The Blue Dahlia" (***) all under contract to *Zukor& Paramount

     

     

    THANK YOU

     

     

  13. (*-as usual indicates an AMPAS victory)

     

    The Top ten all-time highest grossing films-(domestic receipts only compiled)_(April of 2018)>

    1st place "Star wars: The Force awakens" (2015) (Buena Vsta) (made over $936 million)

    2nd place "Avatar" (2009) (DreamWorks, SKG) ($760m.)

    3rd place "The Black Panther" (Marvel/.BV) ($670-$675m. to date)

    4. *"TITANIC" (l997) (Paramount/Fox) ($660m.)-(NOTE: was literally stunned when "BP" overtook this 11 time *Oscar sweeping epic!)

    5th "Jurassic World" (2015) (Universal City Studios) ($652m.)

    6. " "SW: The Last Jedi" (2016) (BV) ($630m.)

    7. "Marvel's Avengers" (2011) ($623m.)

    8. "The Dark Knight" (08) (WB's) ($535m.)

    9. "Rogue 0ne: A Star Wars Nation" (2016) ($532m.)

    & 10th place "Beauty & the Beast" (2017) (Walt Disney) ($504m.)

    (P.S. Highest $grossing$ animated feature 'Finding, Dory" (Pixar) ($486m.)

     

    Worldwide/Internationally grosses:

    1st place 1st "Avatar" (made $2,788.0 worldwide)

    2. *"TITANTIC" ($2,186.0)

    3rd "SW: The Force Awakens" ($1,583.9)

    4. "Jurassic World" ($1,670.4)

    5th place worldwide "Avengers" ($1,519.6)

    6. Furious 7" ($1,516,0)

    7. "Harry Potter & Deathly Hollows, 2"

    8. "Avengers: Age of Ultron" ($1,405,4)

    9. "Frozen" (Disney/Pixar) ($1,276.5)

    10th  "Iron Man 3" (Fox) ($ ???)

     

     

    AND NOW THE OVERALL ALL-TIMERS ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION EVER:

    1st place *GWTW" (l939) (Selznick/.M-G-M) ()top date has sold over $1.6 billion in tickets & $1,757,788,2000 It only cost a quarter to attend big releases during Hollywoods Golden Era too!)

    2nd place adjusted "Star Wars" (l977) (Fox) ($1,549,640)

    3rd *"The Sound of Music" (Fox) ($1,239,013,800)

    4., "E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial" (l982) (Universal) ($1,234,132, 700)

    5th place adjusted "*TITANIC" '97) (Paramount/20th Century Fox) ($1,178, 627, 900)

    6. "The Ten Commandments" (l956) (Paramount Pictures) ($1,139,700,000)-(FUN TRIVIA FAX: It's legendary parting of red sea actually filmed in Paramount's mid parking lot!  "SMOKE & MIRRORS")

    7.  "Jaws" (1975 Universal) ($1,114,285,700)

    8. "Doctor Zhivago": (l965)  (Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer) ($1,0769,978,50)

    9. "The Exorcist" (l973) (Warner Bros.) ($962, 212,800)

    & 10th ever adjusted for $$$$  "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" (l938) (Walt Disney/RKO) (#948,300,400)

     

     

    (NOTE: In a NATO-(national association of Theatre 0wners 1994 poll Harrison Ford-(l942-) was officially voted as #1 all-0time $Box-0ffice$ star)   Personally I thought it would be *John "The Duke" Wayne  myself?

     

    QUESTION: Who would vbe voted A #1 all-time leading lady with ticket goers though???

     

     

    THANK YOU TO ALL   CERTAINLY HOPE MORE REPLY HERE THEN PREVIOUS POST ON ALL FILM GENRE'S THOUGH???

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  14. 20 hours ago, speedracer5 said:

    Just click “Edit” on one of your posts and you should see the ability to change the title. 

    MAN, I truly thought way in advance many & the ultimate classic cinephiles would join in here on own picks   reckon most are chicken???

     

    & agaion, if it is too tedious here, just select one in each category???

  15. 1 hour ago, CaveGirl said:

    From your experience, what are the topics in General Discussions here that are considered so inflammatory that they need to be immediately deleted by guardians of the site? I'd really like to know, since one would think most are things that are divisive, threatening, obscene, or otherwise obviously of a very odious nature.
     

    It would seem sometimes that any questioning of things related to on air personages and their ability to be valid as experts in a film field, is verboten. I can see deleting foul mouthed and erroneous allegations in any form, as being something to control, but is it not acceptable in most worlds that encourage freedom of thought, to allow civil discourse to prevail and be ascertained by others. Or must anything not positive and complimentary, that which is to be the only banned discourse?

    Since to watch a cable network usually entails paying dearly for the services, with cable prices continuing to rise substantially each month it sometimes seems, I would think a  channel, cable network or group that exists due to their subscribers interest in the product of films and offerings shown daily and their customers' satisfaction with programming, would be uppermost in said network's mind, as the personages to please and allow honest opinions to be expressed, if they have a forum online.

    As we saw recently, even Starbucks took seriously how their customers viewed the recent situation at one of their locations, and wanted to appease and show their fair-minded company values and standards to consumers.

    So my question is, do you feel as a subscriber to this or any cable network that supposedly invites subscribers to share thoughts with others online, that it is verboten to even express a whisper of dissatisfaction with those chosen as hosts or on-air commentators, on this message board, since you have seen such things immediately removed by the powers that be, from viewing by other posters?

    I do find this heavy handed editing surprising, particularly if the poster content is polite and civil, and it makes me wonder what the objection would be to expressing occasional negative views, since most entities dealing with the public do allow them to give their honest opinions about products purveyed by the entity, to make sure they are pleasing their customer market.

    But then, maybe I live in a dream world, and the real world consists of companies nowadays mostly, who ignore their customers comments, unless they are unanimously positive and complimentary. Or perhaps there are sacred cows who are not to be ever criticized in any way shape or form, due to some hidden agenda that one is unaware of? If so, I find that a bit upsetting and disconcerting. T'is true that any online site has the right to totally control all speech posted, but if that is used to obstruct and obfuscate any thing not always of a happy talk mentality, I for one find that a sad state of affairs.

    Your comments are welcome but not obligatory. If you've had posts deleted for what you find unreasonable, your feelings will be appreciated.

    By the way, just for the record, a "Film Historian" to me is not someone who wrote a couple books, or has knowledge of maybe one area of films. They would be a person who has studied and researched and done scholarly work about all manner of films for eons, and has a wide range of knowledge to impart to others. Perhaps due to loving films, I have a high standard in mind for those who want to pass themselves off to others as being worthy of being listened to as film experts. 

    Thanks CaveGirl, but don't know exactly what you mean in regrd to your gettijg toentiremeaj about 1950's "ADAM'SCRIB?"

  16. To sepiatone, by no means speaking of you, but MR. SPEED RACER  by the way a stunningly awful (*) star release I once reviewed & I believe it came out around 1998/99.

     

    You should cite another super hero even "Batman" "Superman" or even Tallulah Bankhead's t-shirt as "The Black Widow"   YOU SHOULDN'T CRACK WISE WITH A HANDLE & INTELLIGENCE SUCH AS YOURS PAL

     

     

    THOUIGH 4 BIG STARS !  You have Errol Flynn on you Avatar, ultra cool & crazy guy though   ARE YOU A BIG FAN?

  17. 10 hours ago, speedracer5 said:

    Just click “Edit” on one of your posts and you should see the ability to change the title. 

    Whats the problem with it   & mind you I got entire thing off top of my head pal

     

     

    Don't klnow you, but you almost certainly must look at your computer, phone & books to come up with such stats that were in books dating back to 1979/80 except the updates & my files as well, also initiated around '79???

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