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On 2/20/2018 at 11:00 AM, Det Jim McLeod said:
TCM has been showing a lot of supporting performance nominations since last week. So I thought of one of my favorite years for this category where I saw all of the nominations. Choose who you would have voted for with your reason why.
THE NOMINATIONS
George Chakiris in West Side Story*
Montgomery Clift in Judgment At Nuremburg
Peter Falk in Pocketful Of Miracles
Jackie Gleason in The Hustler
George C Scott in The Hustler
*=actual winner
I would have voted for Clift. He was heart breaking as the Jew who is sterilized by the Nazis. In a huge cast of stars, he was still the one I would be thinking of after the film is over.
For this viewer I would have voted for leading actor winner *Schell for support though. he was brilliant, but *Tracy was it's anchor & by far it's lead ^ though off these topic, *"The King of Hollywood: Gable"-=(l90l-60) was truly ROBBED of a 4th & posthumous nomination in "The Misfits"
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AOW! I am totally surprised at these TCM-ITES on here & not one reply given about Robert's own *Academy Award winners???
Very bizarre
(P.S. not that anyone will probably read or comment on this topic, but does anyone also have that book "Alternate Oscars?" It desperately needs an update though, ending with the '91 cinema)
I guy named Larry Gelkbert also has a similar book, but small & calls his awards "Gelbert's Armchair Awards"
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At least RJ did the right thing & more, he refused the press to even take a shot of her in death!!!
& had Noguchi fired
On that note, arguably the most disgusting & despicable photos I;ve ever as yet seen on the net is several shots of Sharon Tate & dead BIG TIME!
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15 hours ago, Joe said:
This is very true, they did most of there scenes not far from my house in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn. aka Little Italy. lol.
JOE, easy to locate online if you want Just punch in the address& per usual in this era, it certainly doesn't look like that anymore! More of a ghetto Poor Trixie-(Joyce Randolph) is still her at age 93
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In *Cagney's auto book he noted that they really picked on *Bogey, but when they even tried that jazz with him, he immediately slapped them down
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15 hours ago, Joe said:
He was the MICRO CHIP of the Bowery Boys, without Muggs, they would not have such a great cast. Thanks for your comment
Leo Gorcey-(l9l5-69) was a well-known drunk & even Maltin mentioned he seemed very loaded in one of "BOWERY BOYS" efforts & Billy Halop was at first the leader i.e. 1937's "Dead End" (***1/2) but obviously he went elsewhere or something else Anyone else notice how fast Halop aged?
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I'll always remember when *Tracy was king of nommed actors, back when I first really fell "In Love" with THE MOVIES & then, it's history, because I really did not start going to lots of new releases until 1981/82.-(went to 53 for '82, not including going back to any either)
a lot of my admiration & interest in *Tracy started on those grat 1970's tv talk shows Mike Douglas-(l925-206), Merv Griffin-(l925-2007) & more. & in particular Douglas-(*Spence was his lifelong idol) & it was even more of a rarity back then for Glendale's, "Forest Lawn" to allow people filming inside, but when they finally approached his garden grave (very top 318 acres) Mike said "Now, this is the one I most waited for" unquote But something else always ingrigued me, when he talked about Hollywoods Golden Age Heavyweight Legends, he would AWAYS say *Clark Gable, *Humphrey Bogart, *Gary Cooper and *"The Great: Spencer Tracy" or phrase them in another fashion, ALWAYS citing him last & with that nickname (P.S. & ironically 3 of those also chose GLENDALE)
(P.,S. *"Marvelous Meryl Streep"-(l949-) obviously is poised to shatter all *Oscar records eventually)
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On 2/22/2018 at 5:55 AM, jakeem said:Some things to consider before the 90th Academy Awards ceremony, which begins Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 8:00 p.m. EST on ABC:Some movie observers were surprised last month when the 2017 Academy Awards category for Best Actor included Denzel Washington for his performance in "Roman J. Israel, Esq." But it's become apparent that Washington should never be underestimated. He's gradually taken his place among the all-time acting greats.Washington is now one of 13 performers who have received at least eight Oscar nominations for acting. They are:
- Meryl Streep (21 nominations, three wins).
- Katharine Hepburn (12 nominations, four wins).
- Jack Nicholson (12 nominations, three wins).
- Bette Davis (10 nominations, two wins).
- Sir Laurence Olivier (10 nominations, one win).
- Spencer Tracy (nine nominations, two wins).
- Paul Newman (nine nominations, one win).
- Denzel Washington (eight nominations, two wins).
- Marlon Brando (eight nominations, two wins).
- Jack Lemmon (eight nominations, two wins).
- Al Pacino (eight nominations, one win).
- Geraldine Page (eight nominatons, one win).
- Peter O'Toole (eight nominations, no wins).
Washington's eight Academy Award nominations are more than any other African-American actor has ever received (Morgan Freeman has five). He won a 1989 Best Supporting Actor award for his performance as a defiant slave-turned-Union soldier in "Glory" and a 2001 Best Actor award for his work as a renegade Los Angeles undercover cop in "Training Day." His other nominations were for "Cry Freedom" (1987, Best Supporting Actor), "Malcolm X" (1992, Best Actor), "The Hurricane" (1999, Best Actor), "Flight" (2012, Best Actor) and "Fences" (2016, Best Actor).He's actually received nine Oscar nominations. He was recognized as one of the producers of "Fences," which was nominated last year for Best Picture.Written and directed by Dan Gilroy ("Nightcrawlers"), "Roman J. Israel, Esq." stars Washington as a contemporary Los Angeles defense attorney -- and an autistic savant with a passion for the ideals, trends and music of the 1970s.
ONCE AGAIN MSARVELOUS DATA 100%
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Tried posting this last night, but the site deleted & or cut it off? (*-always denotes an Academy Award-(AMPAS) winner)
Back in March of 2003 our dearly departed friend & TCM Host & Author: Robert 0sborne-(l932-2017) write of his own thing during the annual "31 Days of Oscar" & called them "The Osbos" meaning nommed films,etc that he thought deserved to win, as opposed to what Hollywood chose.
Here they are
1. "Miracle of Morgan's Creek" (l944-Paramount) (should have won Best 0.Screenplay in his opinion)
2. "Cabin in the Sky" (l943) (deserved Best Song)
3. "Green Dolphin Street" (l947-MGM) (should have taken Best Scoring of a Dramatic Picture)
4. "A Star is Born" (l954-WB's) (Judy was robbed)-(MATCHED!)
5. "Royal Wedding" (l95l-M-G-M) (Best Song "Too Late Now")
6. "Blood and Sand" (l941-Fox)( (he thought it deserved C-Art-Direction Gold)
7. "Dodsworth" (l936-Goldwyn) ("Osbos" would have voted for this as BP)
8. "Random Harvest" (l942-MGM) (this was always among his favs & thought it shoulda' taken home Best Film)
9. "Camille" (l9347-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayter) (Garbo not winning of course & I agree 100%)
10th "Osbo" "The Human Comedy" (l943-MGM) (perfect WW2 Americana & he woulda' voted for "The Mick" Mickey Rooney)
& 11th "Four Daughters" (l938-Warner Bros.) (always strongly felt John Garfield deserved that s. actor victory for this one)-(A MATCH WITH THIS FAN)
FOR OFFICIAL WINNERS VS. HIS CHOICES GO CHECK 'EM OUT & POST IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE, PLEASE! Only wish he did the same each year afterward though?
Pulled these from my files & hope to sometime post "THE OSBOS" VS. "THE ORACLES" yep, to quote legendary actor *Cooper. The latter ones are my own, title was won 2nd consecutive yrs back when Variety conducted annual predict the winners contests
However, like "Alternate Oscars Book" by Danny Peary, my own choices didn't have to have been officially nominated that year
THANK YOU!
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welp, my friends the network/suite did it once again I had almost finished a pc lifted from my files dubbed R. Osborne's
"OSBOS" During March 03's "31 Days of Oscar" but I got cut off, again?
it was similiar to Danny Peary's book & my own "Alternate Oscars" Only difference being Robert's had to have been official contenders for that year & was pretty certain most on here would find his choices of great interest BUT, NOOOO
IS THERE ANY WHERE TO STILL LOCATE THE ALMOST FINISHED POIECE?: I already complained, but that won't help
THASNK1 YOU * BY THE WAY HE JKUST COVERED AN ENTIRE DAY ONHIS DESERVED PICKS & ABOUT #15 CATEGORIES, BUT FUIN JAZZ
WHAT A DRAG!
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Actually I was about only a half an hour into writing an article/p[osdt from 03 & titled "THE OSBOS" opf course by R. Osborne during "31 Days of Oscar"-(march of 2003) Almost finished & it went into cyberspace, AGAIN?
CVAN YOU PLEASE LOCATE IT
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Yes, I jkust attempoted to stasrt a brand new topic in GENERAL, but only thing I can do is it's heading & then the rest is an enture item abouyt *JAMES CAGNEY instead & instead of pasge just being blanked-out so I can start the newest one
It is important too,m from my files yrs agoi oin R. 0sborne
PLEASE HELP & REPLY
(jeffshannon50@gmail.com) Spencer
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JAMES (Francis) CAGNEY was born on July 17th 1899 in Hell's Kitchen, NYC was both born Irish/Norwegian.
Height: 5'7. Weight: 140 to approx 165lbs latter in his 86yrs of life & was in a wheelchair yrs later due to Diabetes & at once standing 5'7, he refused-(unlike the 5'8 at best *Bogey, to ever wear lifts
Laster & most of his life home was: Verney Farms, NY -("Hawthorne") Thing he loved mot: "Painting" But did own a Hollywood hme located at 2609 Coldwater Canyon, Rd in B. Hills
Wife: Billie
Film career: 1930-81)
Adored dogs inhis farms, but Horses were truly his LOVE@
& also received"The Presidential; Medal of Freedom"in'85 from then U.S. prsident Ronald Reagan, who Reagan called his ultimsate movie hero!
& the American Film Institute-(est: 1967-) AFI Award gimit's annual Lifetime Achievemnent Award for 1974
Plus, he was voted/ranked at 8th in "AFI's 100 Years...100 Stars" (l99 poll & Survey of all-time movie actors.
He pretty muchdespised lg cities such as New York & preferred a farm, especially later in life.
Best buddies: *Tracy, Pat 0Brien, Frank MHugh, Frank Morgan, Robert Armstrong, David Huddleston. (*Georg C. Scott & more! He saw him n '77's "S. Night Fever" summoned John to his Verney Farms estate. Also, he bare; got to meet with George M. Cohan-(l878-l942) (*AKA:" Hollywoods Irish Mafia, but they preffered nickname of "The Boys Club" instead..He was pd thee most duringthe early to mid 30's even over *"The King of HollywoodL Clrk Gable"-(l90l-60)
& *CAGNEY & CINEMA>
Debut: "Sinner's Holiday"(l930) (Warner Bros.) (**1/2)
Finale" 1981's wondrous "Ragtime" (4 BIG STARS!)& (made just $11m.) & both Ebert & Siskel were outrasged that he wasn't p for a 4th nomination forthisgreat picture for s. actor! FANASTIC FILM ON EVEY SINGLELEVEL TOO including *Randy Newman's score!) But it did garner (8) nods
Very last flm: 1984 tv movie as fmr boxer Joe Moran"Terrible Joe Moran"(***) co-staring pal & *Oscar victor *Art Carney-(won an EMMY foir it too!) & Ellen Barkin & fav. release: "Yankee Doodle Dandy" (l942-WB;s) & as all know his 1 & only Best Actor Academy Award (AMPAS) winner! Fred Astaire was always slated for this role first by WB's though? This was the type *Him loved the most & not playing gangsters, calling them "NO STRAIN!"
His only (3) AMPAS nominations>
1938's superb WB's gangster fikm "Angels With Dirty Faces"-(won the NYFCC, but great friend *Tracy took home the Oscar istead for "Boys Town" MGM) AKA:"THE ORIGINAL ROCKY HERE TO!")
1942 *"Yahkee Doodole Dandy" during "The War" wnners were only given placques due to the WW11effort, but got regular statuette just afterward Same also went for (Jimmy Stewart, *Ginger Rogers, *Bing & *Barry Fitzgerald,etc
& 155's "Love Me or Leave Me" (M-G-M) (3 & 1/2 stars!) he was upo foir Best Actr again,but Doris Day fans were truly mad whenshe was left out He portrayed Marty "The Gimp" Snyder A ga;lvanishing pc of workl by him, but lost thast yrarv for *"MARTY" &*E. Borgnine inyrs sweeper MASRTY!"
VS, my own "Essential *James Cagney"
"White Heat" (l959 Warner Bros.) 2bd fav of his 65 "Angels With Dirty Faces" 3rd "The Roaring Twenties" (l939-WB's) As true ti ife +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++gajn+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++gster Frabnk Fatye, but *caney u+seed name instead of Eddie Bartlett instead1
his fasrm(s)
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Like so many shows,etc they played a ton more in the NYFC, NJ area
Same went for both tv's "THE HONEYMOONERS"-(though for fellow fanatics easy to locate on youtube) But still "The Lost Episodfes" are hard to find I have 36 on video of "The Classic 39" & a ton of the others & TV's "The 0dd Couple" (l970-75)
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I'm fairly certain the studio Monogram is still-standing & with Raleigh is rumored to be most haunted
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On 2/20/2018 at 5:24 AM, TikiSoo said:
Is this one about Curly Joe DeRita?
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Saw this early *AMPAS sweeper several time-(anybody see the late 1970's tv movie remake with *Borgnine?) it s well-made (***) but nowhere on that superb level. & I've always felt King Vidor & M-G-M's 1925 WW1 epic silent was almost on same level, anyone agree?
My "Alternate *OSCAR" winner for that year (1929/30)_ though is same
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On 2/22/2018 at 12:18 AM, kingrat said:
My vote would go to George C. Scott, best by a landslide. I'm inclined to agree with Swithin that this was not one of the best years for performances, though Scott was great.
In general, I agree with Swithin that 1961 wasn't the best year overall for performances.
He always told Carson "Dr. Strangelove" was his fav thoiugh
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On 2/22/2018 at 12:18 AM, kingrat said:
My vote would go to George C. Scott, best by a landslide. I'm inclined to agree with Swithin that this was not one of the best years for performances, though Scott was great.
In general, I agree with Swithin that 1961 wasn't the best year overall for performances.
You know this, but it was *George C's, very first of only (4) nods that he desperately wanted to be removed/declined fort his s.actor turn in "Anatomy of a Murder" (l959-UI) Many yrs laterr * shortly before his 1999 demise, he said he was foolish for trying these though *Bogey always said the true & most asccurate fashion in which someone deserves to win is if they all played same role For the record *Hugh Griffith won over *Scott that yr for *"Ben-Hur" (***1/2) & of all it's victories to me *heston';s was among it's least deserving, TOO HAMMY!
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33 minutes ago, skimpole said:
Three points:
(1) Judgement at Nuremberg is not a well acted film. In particular, Richard Widmark and Maximilian Schell don't talk like counsel before a military tribunal. They talk like they're auditioning before Oscar voters. As such they make big rhetorical flourishes that shouldn't convince a judge. (Widmark brings up the Holocaust which begs the question of how much his ex-judges actually know about and are responsible for. Schell argues that Germans shouldn't be viewed as collective guilty. Which given the narrow range of people he's defending, they clearly aren't be treated that way.) Montgomery Clift and Judy Garland's roles are designed to be extra pathetic.
(2) The Montgomery Clift role that deserved to be nominated for best supporting actor of 1961 is his role in The Misfits.
(3) The real best supporting actor of 1961 was Sacha Pitoeff in the indelibly strange Last Year in Marienbad.
Skimpole, sorry to ask this buddy, but what exactly have you either been drinking or smoking;'? "Judgment..." is a superb courtroom epic & it's sole debit-(though always love him) is *Burt in that role written specifically for *0livier!? *Scofield woulda also been a finer choice. &Monty was a shell of his -(for real) fmr self,. likely adding to his incredible characterization! But for some rational that has always boggled pundits, historians *Chakiris defeated him that year??? Likely straight ticket voting & ironically, it was the fine Widmark that got the weakest notices for it though?
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Also 'Quick Millions" (l931-Fox)-(never ever shown on this station?), "A Man's Castle" (l933-Columbia)-(though not really a gangster in the powerful depression era drama) (***1/2) "Whipsaw" (l935-MGM) (***)
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1 hour ago, cody1949 said:
That's how natural his acting was. You didn't know he was acting. Thanks for this information TomJH.
Roger Ebert-(l942-2013) & Gee Siskel-(l946-99) would always secstars from "The Golden Age" were ever so different, confident & better at their game & often mentioned just how the likes of both *CAGNEY & *TRACY would do entire sequences with their own back to the camera! Something we rarely,m if ever will see today with the current crop of so called heavyweight performers
THANX AGAIN & WIULL SOIME SMART TCM-ITE PLEASE CITE *TRACY'S GANGSTER ROLES??? It's an easy one & only about 4 to 5 at most?
OK, one hint & it wasn't in friont of the cameras, but should have easily been in the 19390 film version instead of dullard Preston Foster?
"THE LAST MILE" on the NYC stage first & foremost & *Ford attended almost weekly & immediately signed him to Fox Studios & the rest was history & "TheMick" Mickey Rooney portrayed Killer Mears in the ok (**1/2) version of same name(l959)
NOW,. what re the others???
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52 minutes ago, cody1949 said:
Still think it's a good (***) at best crime-drama though. Apparently she disliked *Tracy & was always later quoted as saying "Apparently *Spencer Tracy thinks he has a license to feel" unquote &they never worked together again
He grew out of that 1930's ladies thing though, maybe his ever decreasing health had a lot to do with it, pkus he was incredibally manic depressive & his polo-playing buddies *Disney, Leslie Howard & Will Rogers all went in plane crashes, except of course *"Uncle Walt" (P.S. & I have gotten ever so fed-up with idiots out there-(same nitwits that speak of John Dillinger's you know what?_) & that *Walter (Elias) Disney-(l90l-66) was chrogenically frozen. His ashes-(along with a myriad of his family) are just on opposite side of "Freedom Maus." Veeery top of Glendale's "F. Lawn" (318 acres & the VIEW!!!) Fansare more than welcome inside this 1/2 the size as "Great Maus." inside though. & ironically, *Tracy's garden grave is just on opposiute suide & under huge statue of George Washingtyon!
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Often wandered if *Cagney was at all hurt, when the real George M. Cohan-(l878-l942) said this of *"TheGreat: Tracy" *Spencer Tracy, Your the Best Damn actor I ever Saw" unquote
& YHOUGH A BIT OFF THE TOPIC, (on Dick Cavett-(SURE HOPE THEY WOUILD COME TO THEIR SENSES & HIURE CAVETT AS A HOST!) *Kate immediatelly mentioned this faxct)THINK I ASSKED THIS OF YOU FELLAS & GALS BEFORE *TRACY ALKSO STARTED OUT PLASYING GANGSTERS, WHAT WERE THEY???
Your Choice For 1961 Best Supporting Actor Oscar
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Sadly, due to drugs & booze, Clift was such a total mess during that film,that of al; people *Tracy helped him remember his lines & gave him constant pep talks through out & then during it's Berlin premiere, all was going way-(except *Tracy almost died on the plan ride over there)
Then during the screening Monty busted in & was yelling, shooting his fingers at invisible Indians,etc & then proceeded to jump on his back riding him like a cowboy, further injuring his kidneys
A story I wrote about yrs back on here, but has been verified *Liz Taylor always really lived up on Bel-Air rd/drive,etc & was having a big party. But Clift went up stairs for awhile, at least! He got into her very powerful pain pills & proceeded to take the entire bottle-(only weighed about 135lbs too) eventually she pondered where he was & went up into her bedroom finding him not only completely passed out, but his cigarette had burned his finger down to the bone!
Then there was that infamous auto accident while driving down from her mansion-(MOST KNOW THE REST) but all insist she saved his life
During "The Misfits" MM told him he was the 1 person more.....up then she was