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Just now, speedracer5 said:
I've never heard of Lloyd Nolan. I'll take your word for it. I was just trying to be a wiseacre. Lol.
Also in many films "Back to Bataan" "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn" "Peyton Place" & more
& ironically as I touched on in the Natalie wood topic, Nolan also chose the 3 & 1/2 acre "Westwood, park"
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35 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
Lloyd Nolan died in 1985.
Norman Lloyd is still alive.
OOPS, got them backwards, Lloyd's last was 1986's wonderful Hannah and Her Sisters
But he is still alive right & about age 94 He was also on the great 1980's tv series St. Elsewhere
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It's to the media's credit for once thesedays that they hardly reported on the demise of Manson at age 83 awhile ago
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4 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:
There's a real possibility that this movie won't get made at all. Due to the current #MeToo climate, and the recent Uma Thurman statements about Tarantino's past dangerous behavior, added to the proposed movie's ballooning budget (said to be close to $100 million), and no small amount of public sentiment against a Manson movie, the studio is said to be having second thoughts on the whole production.
DiCaprio would not be playing Manson, by the way. What's known about the script is that it's not really about Manson/Tate, but rather set in L.A. during that time period, with the script following a number of characters, some or all of whom will interact at some point with Manson and/or Tate. The main characters are said to be a formerly popular TV star and his stunt double best friend, and their struggle to break into movies and out of their TV shadow before they get too old. Tarantino is said to be courting Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise and Margot Robbie for roles. None of the mentioned actors will be playing Manson, whose character will be relatively minor in the story.
LawrenceA, thanx for fast reply, I woulda' thought that as well, but got e mails just yesterday about *Leo being in it as if they were getting the cameras rolling or something?
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She also went with *"The Chairman of the Board: Sinatra" in between marriages to RJ
& *Frank attended her funeral at "Westwood, cem"
As did *Walken, but in photos you can see him way back from the rest
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On 2/9/2018 at 5:04 PM, CaveGirl said:
But Davern has always been a genuine weasel even writing a book about the incident
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On 2/9/2018 at 4:13 PM, hepclassic said:
Maybe, but you never know what a death bed confession might reveal (not that it has to come to that). Also, considering how #metoo is revealing years of sexual abuse/violence, and doing away years of legal cover-ups, it might be possible. All anyone has to do is plant reasonable doubt.
Reportedly *Walken was arguing & loudly with him & actually her as well, all 3 were heard yelling & he's always said he return to his room & that was that for *Walken.
For yrs after everytime I saw the 1978 *Oscar winner, I immediately associated him with her
Dennis Davern has always been an opportunist in this strange case, everytime he can make some $$$ he pops up again
Reportedly he & Natalie spent the night on shore in a hotel the previous night, though it's always said to be innocent & were not involved with each other
I loath her sis Lana Wood-(little Debbie in "The Searchers") was right in telling all about what a scum Davern is
(p.S. but what in the...does this have to do with the "Me Too Movement?" RIDICULOUS)
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On 2/12/2018 at 4:51 PM, MovieMadness said:
What was up with Ben talking politics and Grapes of Wrath last night? I hope no one fell for his fake intro.
& Wagner's all-time idol has always been *"The Great: Spencer Tracy" (l900-l967)
*Tracy kinda' took the then young actor under his wing during filming of both 1954's strong "Broken Lance" (Fox) (***1/2) & 1956's underrated "The Mountain" (**/2) it's main debit was casting him as his brother as opposed to him being his son or something. *Tracy looked more like his grandfather in the well made epic
& even had him at his wedding to her in '57
& when Wagner was a TCM "GP" he picked the tremendous 1955 drama "Bad Day at Black Rock"(M-G-M) as one of his 4 favorites
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For fellow fans of NATASHA'S there is a ton online, especially on Facebook
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This may have already been posted-(let me know) but it's now confirmed that *Oscar winner *Leonardo DiCaprio is set to start in filmmaker *Quentin Tarentino's already hugely controversial film about Charles Manson & the Sharon Tate Murders.
I reckon' he will portray Manson himself, don't know as yet, but among the kinda' bizarre things is he's about 6'1 & Manson was 5'4 on his best say
Tate's sister was already furious about what is likely to be very, very bloody & violent about Sharon's awful & stunning 1969 Beverly Hills massacre-(NOTE: Someone already bought her fmr home & had it torn down on Benedict Canyon, same infamous rd that Jean Harlow's husband Paul Bern killed himself in 1932 & George Reeves did same in '59)
The *Tarentino film is set for released next year
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*Scorsese always admired "Force of Evil" (***1/2)
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1 minute ago, TomJH said:
I'm a big Garfield fan, too, Speedracer, and both of the Garfield films you have yet to see are well worth watching. Force of Evil, a box office bomb in 1948, has been since re-discovered and is now considered one of the more significant films by film noir buffs. Thomas Gomez, playing Garfield's brother caught up in the numbers racket, is outstanding, in my opinion, but everyone is good in this one. You might take notice, too, of the film's dialogue. At times it has a lyrical, almost poetic quality. Very unusual, especially for a noir, but I thinks it works, and Garfield's handling of the dialogue is a real treat. But there's also a bleakness at the core of Force of Evil which makes it chillingly memorable. One of Garfield's best, in my opinion.
Only time Garfield ever appeared on screen in color was a Warner Bros. short subject & very briefly in it's commissary, still standing for now anyway Went by it on the superb WB's VIP tour in 1999
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29 minutes ago, speedracer5 said:
Force of Arms (1951) I watched this movie starring William Holden and Nancy Olson the other night. While it wasn't the best movie I have seen, I did enjoy it. I love the romance films (read: real romance films, not predictable rom-com or Hallmark movies) and I did think that Holden and Olson's romance was portrayed well and was realistic. This was an interesting post-war film as it portrayed Holden and Olson's characters involved in the Allied Forces efforts in Italy in WWII. I haven't seen many WWII films depicting the war in Italy.
In this film, Holden's character, Sergeant Joe Peterson, is fighting in an intense battle and he and his regiment are granted a five-day rest in a nearby Italian town. Either the night before they leave for town, or the first day of the rest (I can't remember), Holden meets WAC Lieutenant Ellie McKay, Nancy Olson. In typical romantic film fashion, Olson brushes off Holden's advances, but you can tell that she likes him. Holden is promoted to Lieutenant and Olson offers to take him out for a celebratory drink. She ends up admitting to Holden that the reason she's rebuffing him is because she almost married a soldier who ended up being killed in battle. As a form of self-preservation, Olson had promised herself that she wouldn't fall for another soldier. However, this of course goes out the window, and Olson allows herself to fall in love with Holden. Holden promises her when he comes back from his next leave.
Throughout the rest of the film, Holden and Olson carry on with their relationship while Holden deals with stress, pressure and guilt (when his friend is killed in a battle, a death that Holden blames himself for). Olson has an excellent dramatic sequence at the end of the film.
I thought that Holden looked great in this film. For a guy who seemed to maintain a physically fit physique his whole life, it's interesting that he was a heavy smoker and drinker. In 1951, Holden's vices had not yet caught up to him, so he looks gorgeous in this film. No wonder Olson was in love with him. I also like Olson. She has a unique look. She's very pretty, but also has a unique looking face that sets her apart from others. She didn't have the glamour of stars like Elizabeth Taylor or Rita Hayworth, but she had a pretty girl next door vibe that works for me.
It's also interesting that this film was reissued under the title A Girl For Joe. To me, that title doesn't really make sense considering the course of events in this film. Force of Arms doesn't really make that much sense either, but A Girl For Joe makes the film sound like a buddy comedy starring Dennis Morgan and Jack Carson or something.
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He Ran All the Way. This was a fantastic noir starring John Garfield (in his last film) and Shelley Winters. Mankiewicz stated in his introduction that Garfield was dealing with the blacklist from refusing to name names in the HUAC hearings and then ended up dying from a heart condition the next year--stating that many thought that the stress of HUAC is what killed him. He ended up being cleared of any wrongdoing by HUAC shortly after his death. I wonder if his career would have picked up where he left off had he not died.
In this film, Garfield's character, Nick Robey, and his partner, Al (played by Norman Lloyd) botch a robbery. Lloyd ends up shot and Garfield runs off with the $10,000 they had stolen from a business man. Garfield remembers the advice Lloyd had given him about escaping from the cops, "blend in with the crowd." Garfield blends in with the crowd and wanders into a big community swimming pool. While swimming, Garfield meets Shelley Winters' character, Peg. Garfield ends up escorting Winters home and meets her family. Wanting a safe place to hide, Garfield ends up taking Winters and her family hostage until he can escape. Throughout the film, Garfield's paranoia consumes him and he ends up acting out violently when he thinks someone is going to rat him out. The family, understandably, is on edge and very scared, in Garfield's presence. He does allow the family members to come and go from the home on two conditions: 1) At least one family member will stay with Garfield at all times; 2) If someone uses their time out of the house to inform the police, then Garfield will kill whichever family member he's with.
Throughout the film, we aren't really sure what Winters' stance is in all of this. She likes Garfield as evidenced by the pool scene and when he takes her home (before taking the family hostage). She even admits to liking him despite him taking the family hostage and even dresses up for him at one point. Her father thinks his daughter is nuts and doesn't want her to have anything to do with him, can't blame him there, even though John Garfield is pretty hunky. The taking the family hostage and committing crimes thing would be a deal breaker for me though.
I anticipated the ending of the film, but it was still a good ending and seemed to be the only ending this film could have.
Garfield is so adept at playing men who are decidedly working class, rebellious, a bit tragic, but trying to overcome it all to get what he thinks he deserves. His performances are intense, but not in an off-putting way, he definitely has charisma and screen presence. I am captivated by him when I see him on screen. I always DVR his films when I see them on the TCM schedule. I have Pride of the Marines and Force of Evil waiting to watch. I've seen him in: The Breaking Point, Four Daughters, Out of the Fog, Thank Your Lucky Stars (where he sings!), The Postman Always Rings Twice, and Humoresque (which I loved).
Leonard Maltin always votes for "Humoresque" as *Joan Crawford's finest hour
a couple others you may or may not have seen are 1943's terrific (***1/2-out of 4) "Destination Tokyo" & "Air Force"
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1942's "Tortilla Flat" (M-G-M) is a fun one too (***) but not a showcase for him, *"The Great: Spencer Tracy" & Oscar nommed Frank Morgan steal the show
Hemingway was said to prefer Garfield's powerful 1950 "Breaking Point" (***1/2) over 1944's "To Have and Have Not"
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& TCM once had a John Garfield bio hosted by his daughter & she confirmed it's not him in a single shot from *Cagney's 1933 "Footlight Parade" (WB's)
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As of now I;m pretty certain Lloyd Nolan is still alive at about 94 or so
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18 minutes ago, speedracer5 said:
Force of Arms (1951) I watched this movie starring William Holden and Nancy Olson the other night. While it wasn't the best movie I have seen, I did enjoy it. I love the romance films (read: real romance films, not predictable rom-com or Hallmark movies) and I did think that Holden and Olson's romance was portrayed well and was realistic. This was an interesting post-war film as it portrayed Holden and Olson's characters involved in the Allied Forces efforts in Italy in WWII. I haven't seen many WWII films depicting the war in Italy.
In this film, Holden's character, Sergeant Joe Peterson, is fighting in an intense battle and he and his regiment are granted a five-day rest in a nearby Italian town. Either the night before they leave for town, or the first day of the rest (I can't remember), Holden meets WAC Lieutenant Ellie McKay, Nancy Olson. In typical romantic film fashion, Olson brushes off Holden's advances, but you can tell that she likes him. Holden is promoted to Lieutenant and Olson offers to take him out for a celebratory drink. She ends up admitting to Holden that the reason she's rebuffing him is because she almost married a soldier who ended up being killed in battle. As a form of self-preservation, Olson had promised herself that she wouldn't fall for another soldier. However, this of course goes out the window, and Olson allows herself to fall in love with Holden. Holden promises her when he comes back from his next leave.
Throughout the rest of the film, Holden and Olson carry on with their relationship while Holden deals with stress, pressure and guilt (when his friend is killed in a battle, a death that Holden blames himself for). Olson has an excellent dramatic sequence at the end of the film.
I thought that Holden looked great in this film. For a guy who seemed to maintain a physically fit physique his whole life, it's interesting that he was a heavy smoker and drinker. In 1951, Holden's vices had not yet caught up to him, so he looks gorgeous in this film. No wonder Olson was in love with him. I also like Olson. She has a unique look. She's very pretty, but also has a unique looking face that sets her apart from others. She didn't have the glamour of stars like Elizabeth Taylor or Rita Hayworth, but she had a pretty girl next door vibe that works for me.
It's also interesting that this film was reissued under the title A Girl For Joe. To me, that title doesn't really make sense considering the course of events in this film. Force of Arms doesn't really make that much sense either, but A Girl For Joe makes the film sound like a buddy comedy starring Dennis Morgan and Jack Carson or something.
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He Ran All the Way. This was a fantastic noir starring John Garfield (in his last film) and Shelley Winters. Mankiewicz stated in his introduction that Garfield was dealing with the blacklist from refusing to name names in the HUAC hearings and then ended up dying from a heart condition the next year--stating that many thought that the stress of HUAC is what killed him. He ended up being cleared of any wrongdoing by HUAC shortly after his death. I wonder if his career would have picked up where he left off had he not died.
In this film, Garfield's character, Nick Robey, and his partner, Al (played by Norman Lloyd) botch a robbery. Lloyd ends up shot and Garfield runs off with the $10,000 they had stolen from a business man. Garfield remembers the advice Lloyd had given him about escaping from the cops, "blend in with the crowd." Garfield blends in with the crowd and wanders into a big community swimming pool. While swimming, Garfield meets Shelley Winters' character, Peg. Garfield ends up escorting Winters home and meets her family. Wanting a safe place to hide, Garfield ends up taking Winters and her family hostage until he can escape. Throughout the film, Garfield's paranoia consumes him and he ends up acting out violently when he thinks someone is going to rat him out. The family, understandably, is on edge and very scared, in Garfield's presence. He does allow the family members to come and go from the home on two conditions: 1) At least one family member will stay with Garfield at all times; 2) If someone uses their time out of the house to inform the police, then Garfield will kill whichever family member he's with.
Throughout the film, we aren't really sure what Winters' stance is in all of this. She likes Garfield as evidenced by the pool scene and when he takes her home (before taking the family hostage). She even admits to liking him despite him taking the family hostage and even dresses up for him at one point. Her father thinks his daughter is nuts and doesn't want her to have anything to do with him, can't blame him there, even though John Garfield is pretty hunky. The taking the family hostage and committing crimes thing would be a deal breaker for me though.
I anticipated the ending of the film, but it was still a good ending and seemed to be the only ending this film could have.
Garfield is so adept at playing men who are decidedly working class, rebellious, a bit tragic, but trying to overcome it all to get what he thinks he deserves. His performances are intense, but not in an off-putting way, he definitely has charisma and screen presence. I am captivated by him when I see him on screen. I always DVR his films when I see them on the TCM schedule. I have Pride of the Marines and Force of Evil waiting to watch. I've seen him in: The Breaking Point, Four Daughters, Out of the Fog, Thank Your Lucky Stars (where he sings!), The Postman Always Rings Twice, and Humoresque (which I loved).
& was the very first in the method style of acting in cinema. I know of a young girl that also has a website that has a crush on him & 66yrs after his untimely demise
He deserved to win that 1938 s. actor race for "Four Daughters" (WB) (***1/2) but lost to 3 time victor: *Walter Brennan in "Kentucky" (Fox)
During his filming they didn't even want him running across a room due to his poor health
& something disgusting surfaced many yrs ago in "Too Young To Die" the book, a photo of Garfield in his casket
I've seen "He Ran all the Way" (***) a few times & is underrated, but Ebert & Siskel among others always rated '47's great "Body and Soul" (4 stars!) as his best & it's easily among Hollywoods Greatest Boxing & even Sports pix
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Is it in this topic somebody touched on the ultra fun 1982 comedy & cinema homage "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid?"
At the time (summer of 82, a great movie year & my first going to between 36 & 60 new releases & trying to predict the *Oscars though I did awful) "Dead Men..." only took in $21 million & fell bay the wayside, over the years it's gained fans though
This was of course the year of "E.T."
Obviously meant for us die hard Golden Age Buffs the most, it deserved *AMPAS attention though for it's Cinematography, Costumes-(*Edith Head's last) & Film Editing, & had a strong score by (*Miklos Rosza.)
Easily among my "Essential Steve Martin Flix"
(P.S. to true fans of it's type of movie & Hollywoods Golden Age, is there anyone-(except K. Douglas) still with us in it's clips?)
THANKS
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2 hours ago, LawrenceA said:
Oh, and as for The Shape of Water, I think I'm just happy about the idea of a movie that's an homage to Creature from the Black Lagoon getting so much critical love. Guillermo Del Toro strikes me as a really nice, fun guy, and someone I could spend hours talking to about old horror and SF movies. But his directorial efforts are very hit-and-miss for my tastes. Even his films that I like the most (Cronos, The Devil's Backbone, Pan's Labyrinth) have all lacked a certain something to make them all-time favorites. And when he's bad, he's really awful, like Pacific Rim.
So I wouldn't mind seeing a repeat of the BAFTAs at the Oscars, with Del Toro winning for director and Three Billboards winning Best Picture.
But it would be incredibally rare if they all matched up
Though "Shape..." is a virtual lock to win Best Director-(del Toro) & Score & maybe even a sweep, handicapping it says it did take home both the DGA & PGA Awards
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& as *Jimmy Stewart always later said he mostly always preffered the studio system for making movies
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40 minutes ago, Swithin said:
1940 is one of the great years. Although I really enjoyed several 2017 films, 2017 can't compete with 1940.
The old saying "They Don't Make 'Em Like They Used To" truly applies, huh
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But the may not-(this year) have much credence in oddsmaking *Oscar, the last 3ytrs it's Best Film winner did not match the AMPAS
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2 hours ago, LawrenceA said:
As often as you've voiced your displeasure with The Shape of Water, I'll most likely love it. It's a shame you didn't want to get up and leave the theater, or it may have ended up being one of my all-time favorites!
I haven't seen any of the three you mention, but I will soon, and I think I'll like at the least the first two. Call Me By Your Name looks like something that may put me to sleep, though.
LawrenceA, can you believe I actually got every single film category correct on the golderby.com contest!
I rarely if ever forecast the winners for these, just the Academy Awards
I like "Shape...' (***1/2=-out of 4 stars) but rate "Three Billboards..." much much stronger myself 4 stars! & is also among my favs for this rather pathetic cinematic decade to date
So far my own personal favs are as follows
1. *"The Artist" (2011) ($44m.) & one I'd actually like to own on DVD, an homage to movies & Hollywood itself & a superb music score that also won the statuette, obviously though lifted from *B. Herrmann & "Vertigo"
2. "Gravity" (2013) ($275m.) Swept 7 *Oscars but not the biggie that year?
3. "La La Land" (2016) ($155m.) as you know what was arguably *Oscars biggest upset for BP Gold last year, the winner was *"Moonlight' instead
4. "Life Itself" (2013) Docu about Roger Ebert
5th fav. "Three Billboards 0utside Ebbing Missouri" (2017) (made approx. $47m. td)
6. "Inside/0ut" (2015) ($356m.) but not my own fav so far in the Walt Disney/Pixar Universe
& please fill us in on your opinion of "Shape of Water?"
& your correct in 1940 also being up there under that most legendary of motion picture years 1939!!!
I have always felt his peers wanted to award *Selznick with another statue & mostly why *"Rebecca" defeated "the Grapes of Wrath"
THANK YOU
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I like her more though & could be a terrific actress, especially in comedy, though of course won her *Academy Award for a heavy drama in 1940's "Kitty Foyle" (***1/2-out of four)
He snagged 1 nod for s. actor for '74's epic "The Towering Inferno" (3 & 1/2)
But in my view AFI's 100 Years... 100 Stars" (l999 poll) voted him way up too high at 5th?
Is everyone a fan of Fred and Ginger? smoking?
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But why is smoking something big here? Virtually all smoked a lot during that glorious era
the record must be for "The Great 0ne: Jackie Gleason (l9l6-l987)" with approx. 6 packs per day! Rod Serling same & even *Sinatra-=(who smoked a couple packs a day) nicknamed Sammy Davis, Jr. "Smokey"
Supposedly people didn't yet know the dangers of it though, but when they put smoke into the lungs it seems they should have known somethin (P.S. Among my photos I once copied one of *"The Great: Spencer Tracy"-(l900-67)with a cigarette in '33's "20,000 Years at Sing Sing" (Warner Bros.) & the editors asked if you wanted the alternate shot without a cig.)