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st of all I am positive I will get a huge backlash on this topic, but I've studied both comedic giants ever since I was about 18 & at one time Laurel and Hardy's fan club-(don't know about now though?) "Sons of the Desert" was the largest in terms on membership on this planet, no foolin' This was in the '80's. & I joined a fairly, no, good fan club titled RALPH-("Royal Association & Preservation of the Honeymooners") they sent neat stuff & still have a bit of it, including a racoon cap! But & typically that club closed-(from NY) just as soon as "The Great 0ne: Jackie Gleason" (l9l6-87) died? Online it's hgard to find "The Lost Episode's" though? I have most buried in boxes though & all but 3 of "The Classic 39" Plus, lots of Stan & Ollie shoirts, also still buried & on VHS L. Maltin used to show them on "Nick at Night" as for his fellow Irishmen *Art (Ed Norton) Carney-(l9l8-2003) he's as all know also an *Oscar winner 1974's "Harry & Tonto" They weren't close pals after the show though? I know it musata hurt Jackie that he never won 1 EMMY though Auydrey won 1 & *Carney about 3 or more in a row. My fav. "Classic 39" "Unconventional Behavior" & of Stan & Ollie "The Music Box"-(which won an *AMPAS Award for Best Comedy Short) & my fav. Laurel & Hardy feature "Way 0ut West"-(that dance scene is just amazing, huh)
OVERVIEW:
Jackie Gleason (John Herbert Gleason) (l9l6-l987)-(did at least garner 1 single s. actor nom as Minnesota Fats in "The Hustler" But go locate 1986's "Nothing in Common" opposite a young Hanks) & (golderby.com's main founder Tom 0'Neil was furious when they installed a lifesize statue of him & in frt of EMMY Headquarters!!!)-(his hero/idol: Oliver Hardy & Jack 0akie)-=(Jackie has one of thee biggest graves & monuments to himself-(CHECK IT OUT!) near Miami, FL. It simply says "AND AWAY WE GO"
Art Carney-(l9l8-2003)-(also deserved a 2nd *Oscar shot for '77's "The Late Show")-(*Cagney was his great friend & hero!)
Audrey Meadows-(l926-2006) Pert Kelton was the first Alice9chgose "Holy Cross, park)
& now 93yr old Joyce Randolph, who is everywhere thesedays
Look up their fmr fictional address online at 328 Chauncey street in Brooklyn
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Laurel and Hardy-(*Hal Roach-(l892-2002) made them of course & think I did a pc on Culver City Studious yesterday-(PLEASE CHECK IT OUT) & Roach & The Boys also filmed a ton on it's street just outside, as did H. Lloyd)
Oliver (Norvell) Hardy-(l892-l957) For those that truly watch RALPH, one can easily see he steals much from his hero Don't really know as much about Ollie though? He did pass away at his mother in laws home of either a massive stroke or heart attack? (Interred "Valhalla, cem.) A very southern gentlemen
Stan Laurel-(Arthur Stanley Jefferson)-(l890-l965) (obviously a "Limey" & in some very old footage you can see him in a group with *CHAPLIN!) He was first, obviously Kramden's Ed Norton to Hardy's Stanley. A very pvt man & even had large fences installed around his residence to keep process servers out. But he caught Dick Van Dyke impersonating him on tyv & invited him over. He finally was award a special lifetime Academy award for both of them though.
(OVERVIEW) I barely cast my vote for Ralph & Norton, but make no mistake, I easily rank Stan & Ollie as cinema history's A #! all-time greatest movie duo)
THANK YOU
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As I told the moderator & apologized a few times I accidentally posted this topic in the wrong thread Think it was on the Oscar nods
I did as as expected too>
PKEASE REVISE & REMOVE IT TO THIS AREA & I THANK YOIU
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2 minutes ago, spence said:
Why doesn't TCM broadscast "THE THREE STOOGES" short subjects? They often air those flat latter theatrical films with Curlky Joe DeRita-(l909-l993) But he & they were dull as dishwater
I'm of course talking about the contracted to what the late great Hollywood columnist James Bacon-(l9l4-2000) wrote yet another book of "Harry Cohn, The Meanest Man in Town"-(I was given it by a ladyt & boxes of oither books one day)
But they were contracted for 25 years at Columbia Pictures-(a stone's throw from Paramount Pictures & Hollywood forever, cem: Now called Gower Studios instead During Hollywoods Golden Age-(l925-60) Columbia was dubbed "Germ of the ocean" "Poverty Row" & more insults. *Gable was actually being punished by L.B. Matyer when he was sent there to do a little unkown picture called *"It Happened 0ne Night" *Capra wrote, he came in his office blotto at first, feeling punished again by Mayer
A bet it's legal; rights that TCM cannot air these hilarious shorts They only range from 18 minutes at the most
THANK YOU! For the trivia buffs like myself Joe Besser only(SADLY) joined in for 2 yrs so they could finsh out the contract-(l934-59) & also sadly these difficult jerk was the sole "Stooge" present when they finally got a "Walk-of-Fame Star": in 1984
TCM MODERATOR< please move my "STOOGES" topic to the overall General area?
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OOPS, A BIG ERROR This was as the site said to be a brand new topic on not on this thread, how do I & more importantlky they revised & change it?
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Why doesn't TCM broadscast "THE THREE STOOGES" short subjects? They often air those flat latter theatrical films with Curlky Joe DeRita-(l909-l993) But he & they were dull as dishwater
I'm of course talking about the contracted to what the late great Hollywood columnist James Bacon-(l9l4-2000) wrote yet another book of "Harry Cohn, The Meanest Man in Town"-(I was given it by a ladyt & boxes of oither books one day)
But they were contracted for 25 years at Columbia Pictures-(a stone's throw from Paramount Pictures & Hollywood forever, cem: Now called Gower Studios instead During Hollywoods Golden Age-(l925-60) Columbia was dubbed "Germ of the ocean" "Poverty Row" & more insults. *Gable was actually being punished by L.B. Matyer when he was sent there to do a little unkown picture called *"It Happened 0ne Night" *Capra wrote, he came in his office blotto at first, feeling punished again by Mayer
A bet it's legal; rights that TCM cannot air these hilarious shorts They only range from 18 minutes at the most
THANK YOU! For the trivia buffs like myself Joe Besser only(SADLY) joined in for 2 yrs so they could finsh out the contract-(l934-59) & also sadly these difficult jerk was the sole "Stooge" present when they finally got a "Walk-of-Fame Star": in 1984
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1 minute ago, spence said:
IT IS A VIRTUAL OLOCK TO TAKE HOME THAT A. SCREENPLAY STATUE THOUGH, MAINLY AS A CAREER HONOR FOR 89 year old veteran JAMES IVORY
I just had a gut reaction for months that Hammer would never make the cut & maybe co-star M. Stuhlbarg instead of him
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On 1/23/2018 at 6:28 PM, rayban said:
"Call Me By Your Name" gets four Oscar nominations -
one for Best Picture, but not one for its' director, Luca Guadagnimo
one for Best Leading Actor, Timothee Chalamet, not one for its' other leading actor, Armie Hammer
both performances are exquisite and powerful, one doesn't exist without the other
one for Best Adapted Screenplay, James Ivory, who did a glorious job of realizing some very "difficult" material
and one for Original Song, "Mystery of Love", by Suljan Stevens, which conveys the film beautifully
but how can you not nominate Armie Hammer and Luca Guadagnimo?
The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences continues to be perplexing!
A love too deep, too proud - to be silent!
It could also win for Best O. Song-(a close race though)? to throw it another bone after Ivory?
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1 hour ago, rayban said:
Yes, due to the current SEX PROBLEM in Hollywood, the film could be seen as "creepy" or "inappropriate".
It does go way beyond another film on this subject, the famous French film, "This Special Friendship".
That film explored same-sex attraction between a young boy and an older boy with a total command of its' essential innocence, i.e., the film was not about having sex, but experiencing a different set of emotions.
But "Call Me By Your Name" is about a different set of emotions AND SEX.
But it is too "pure" in those emotions to be anything other than "romantic".
Even the boy's father is supportive of an experience that he feels must have been beneficial to his son - in terms of experiencing life more deeply and, also, "growing up".
A different kind of sexual experience that is, in its' essence, entered into - willingly and hopefully - is not, necessarily, A BAD EXPERIENCE.
A seventeen year old boy can experience his love for an older young man - and not walk away DAMAGED.
If it is watched with an open heart, it can't be seen as shocking.
There is so much more to sex - than boy and girl, man and woman.
IT IS A VIRTUAL OLOCK TO TAKE HOME THAT A. SCREENPLAY STATUE THOUGH, MAINLY AS A CAREER HONOR FOR 89 year old veteran JAMES IVORY
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Just now, spence said:
NOPE! A lot of it's approx. 3,000 additional voting members were European as well
Amazingly too his 8th shot to date
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4 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
The Academy increased the total number of members (many non-old-white-guys) and removed other members (mostly 'older white guys') thinking this would lead to more diversity (under the assumption that members tend to see films that are about people like themselves, and also vote for nominees that are like themselves).
Either those assumption are mistaken or the Academy just didn't add enough new Asian and Latino members or this is just how the chips fell.
As for Denzel Washington being nominated for Best Actor; Maybe that wasn't one of the top 5 best performances by an actor according to critics, but Washington has 3 things going in his favor; He is a well known and respected actor, the film is named after the character he played, and his race.
NOPE! A lot of it's approx. 3,000 additional voting members were European as well
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That's horse-racing sports fans! My biggest surprise Hanks-(again!?)
& even more so because he portrayed a very famous & pivotal newspaperman that the superb actor *Jason Robards in 1976's "All the President's Men" won his first of 2nd consecutive wins for?
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Pauly Shore, Chris Tucker & David Twelis & Russell Brand
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NATALIE WOOD used to love to play charades in front of her friends at her canon drive humble home & she'd always make fun of a mediocre (**) 1956 Western she did "The Burning Hills" Alwayts doing what she thought was her Mexican accent from it
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& some rightfully included *"THE DUKE" in "The Conquerer": but what about "The Green Berets" (l968)?
He was still fihting WW2 style in the pic. & not true to life war events in Vietnam such as "Apocalypse Now" *"Deer Hunter" "Coming Home"-(though no battle scenes), &*"Platoon" & "Full Metal Jacket"
& we can't ever 4-get "SINGING SANDY" long before he was a "STAR!"
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I don't think *TRACY actually made an all out lousy motion picture, a number of mediocre one's though
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9 hours ago, Det Jim McLeod said:
Here some big stars who ended up in really awful films, any others you can think of?
Joan Crawford in Trog (1970)
She was in so many great films from the 1930s to the early 1960s, but she ended her career with this ridiculous low budget film about a prehistoric creature.
Abbott and Costello in Dance With Me Henry (1956)
They were the top comedy team of the 1940s but this was their last film before splitting up for good. They were once fast talking and energetic, but now are old and tired. The film is a cloying story about orphans, there are no laughs and it is really embarrassing to watch.
Dorothy Lamour in Creepshow 2 (1987)
The gorgeous comic foil to Hope and Crosby appeared in this disgusting horror anthology, all the stories are badly written and acted. Lamour and co star George Kennedy try their best in one sequence about a wooden Indian coming to life. Lamour gets shot gunned to death in this.
Vincent Price in Dead Heat (1988)
He was in Laura and The Song Of Bernadette and became a star with great horror films from the 1950s to the 1970s. The 1980s saw a decline and this one is the worst. He only plays a small part but the film tries to be a horror comedy about a cop who returns from the dead, but it has no laughs or thrills.
AGREE 100% on "Trog"
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Who recalls the staggeringly awful & fake too 1980's "Faces of Death?" No big stars, but must be mentioned
2017's "mother!" (*-BOKMB rating) is among sole releases I wanted to leave in
"Marvelous" Michelle Pfeiffer it's saving grace Trust me this film is disgustingly nasty!
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3 minutes ago, Swithin said:
[This one's for you, LawrenceA]: Robert De Niro's worst film is Brazil. Actually, Brazil is the worst movie ever made, so it's the worst film of everyone in it; but I think De Niro comes closest to being a classic star.
(Regarding some other examples mentioned, I don't agree that a classic actor's worst film is a late-career horror film. Some of those films are choice!)
Oh my god buddy, you are among the chosen few I've seen virtually all his ever growing amount of films & "Brazil" (strong ***) isn't even close to being among his worst? (TRIVIA: It did win LA Film Critics award for Best Film)
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& *Sinatra's 1948 "The Kissing Bandit" (**-out of 4 stars) was always a running gag within the industry, but it's not a bad picture?
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Even "THE LOVE OF MY LKIFE"_& I';ve even been hitched before 1990;s)
NATALIE WOOD had a couple of her own & a toss-up for her "WORST" 1966's "Penelope" & 1979's "Meteor"
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Virtually all people back then & now-(evenb great pal *Tracy) would make fun of *Gable in 1937's bio dud(*1/2) "Parnel" (M-G-M)
*"The King" would tease *Tracy yrs later about "I Take This Woman" not a bad film though, but had lots of reshoots for some reason & *Spencer's retort would remind him of "Parnell"
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5 hours ago, hamradio said:
John Wayne in "The Conqueror" (1956) OMG what a Lookalike, can't tell him from Genghis Khan.
Now yoiur talkin' & did anyone yet include both Mae West & R. Welch in the stunningly awful 1970 "Myra Breckinridge?"
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Always pondered on this one & I currently passed over 2,000 posts, but how does 1 get it's heading in BOLD LETTERING?
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On 12/12/2017 at 1:02 PM, LawrenceA said:
That must be a time zone thing...The Sorrow and the Pity is on at 6:45 AM where I am...just the kind of thing for people to watch first thing in the morning!
Everytime I even read or hear about "Sorrow..." I fondly recall *":ANNIE HALL"
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Forgoit a stunner! & wiuth my 3rd hero Jackie Gleason & many others including Groucho Marx in 1968;'s "Skidoo"
Gleason even drops acid in a sequence