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plese help I took almoist an hoiur to post :Forbes" Annual Top monetymakers in HOLLYWOOD & It just vanished again???
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(& PER USUAL SOME TRIVIA FILM FAX: Of all the powerhouse roles 0ldmand had delivered "Sid & Nancy" "State of Grace:=(my vote **** his finest work to date), "True romance" ":Bram Stoker's : Dracula" "The Professional" what has he been nommed for to date?)
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Was just going over another must have site-(only for those into new releases) teaser-trailers.com
& it had the usual & better known upcoming bio with Brian Cox in & as "Churchill" & it listed another due in November with Gary 0ldmasn on the same subject???
I'm aware this belongs is 21017 releases, but just couldn't resist because it's confusing?
& to the individual that cited Oscar winner*K. Bigalow's "Detroit" it just may also be a contender
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I don't know why I'm responding to this thread as, aside from anything else, this particular Original Poster rarely if ever replies to anything I say. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
"However"...."That said"... I saw both films around the time they were released. I think both are very good. But they are so very different from each other that to me it doesn't even make sense to compare them. The old "apples and oranges" thing.
Still, if someone were to insist that I had to state which of the two were the better film, perhaps under threat of waterboarding, I'd have to go with Moonlight. It was different from anything I'd ever seen, it engaged me every minute, all the actors were outstanding and it was beautifully scripted and filmed. (Not that there's a lot of "script" in it , but what there is is choice.) Most of all, it moved me.
La La Land was a fun movie. I'm a fan of the leads in it - Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone are both talented and very likable actors. The tunes were pleasant, the dance numbers imaginative and well-done, and the story enjoyably bitter-sweet.
But I have to say, of the two movies, I think Moonlight is the more memorable. And ultimately, one of the main criteria I go by for judging a movie's worth ( whatever we mean by "worth") is how well I remember it. Something to do with its long-term impact, how much it impresses itself on my brain, I guess.
THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TANY RATE In essence *"Moonlight"is the better written pic & "La La Land" in my view is far better in the directors area
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Your operative words in your OP:
"To this viewer".
Which means it's in YOUR opinion, and everybody ELSE will have THEIR opinions, and therefore which one is "better" will NEVER be settled.
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SEPIATONE, did you have the chance as yet to see either?
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What are you talking about exactly?
I kinda get what your saying, but you neglected to include your own pix?
You are among the topTCM-ITES I had hoped to hear from too PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR CANDIDATES
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Just for the record & in honor of Mr. 0sborne, he once had Stanley Donen(l924-) on an interview & immediately told Stanley that (7) of his films were in his top ten favs.
Howevere, he wavered a bit, as most of us cinephiles do & when he did that absolutely marvelous "Pvt. screenings" w/Alec Baldwin reversing the tables & had a "Pvt. screenings" with Robert, he asked him his ideal drama: "A Place in the sun" (l95l-Paramount) adventure: "Adventures of Robin hood" (l938-WB's_), Comedy "Libeled Lady (l936-MGM_) & "This Is Spinal tap" (l984) & of musicals without pause Osbo said "Singin' In the Rain" (l952-M-G-M)
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For many these are one in the same. One's own all-time favourite motion pictures against the actual finest ever made, but I thought it would be of interest to see of some can separate the 2?
(EXAMPLE: "The Third Man" (l950) in 1999, an obviously response to AFI's massive 1998 poll "100 years...100 Movies"-(most film mediums conducted the same poll of it's readers in response to it)
"EW," "Films of the Golden Age/Classic Images"/ "TV Guide": & of course "Sight and Sound" but that wasn't until 2002 when "Vertigo' pulled a massive upset over "Kane" which had topped it's list for 5 decades
"Hollywood.com"/' Time 0ut"/ even the sadly now gone tremendous "Premiere"/
imdb.com"So I wondered if you, the ultimate cinefans could do the same However, difference here being what you TCM-ITES personally rate as your fav. flix-(I,.e. "Desert Island"-(I hate that phrase myself) "Essential Movies" vs. "The Actual Best You've Yet to See"-(*always denotes an Oscar winner)
As usual I'll start the ball rolling with my own top 5 to 10 own fav. movies:-(always have to throw my 2 or 3 cents in)>
1st fav. *"GFI" (l972), 2 *"GFII" (l974)-(I know TCM still doesn't own the rights though), 3rd fav. "Kane" (l94l-RKO Radio), 4. "Captains Courageous" (l937-MGM) 5th "Modern Times" (l936) (UA()
(HONORABLE MENTION: "Dumbo" (l94l-Disney/RKO)
VS. The out & out finest films I've yet to see> 1st place "Citizen Kane" 2. *"GFI" 3.*"GFII" 4th place *"Casablanca" & 5th best to date: "Modern Times'-(barely over 1931's ":City lights")
NOW, JUST FOR FUN FACTS: "AFI's 1-00yrs...100 Movies" (l998 poll/survey)> 1st place "Kane" 2 *"Casablanca" 3rd *"GFI" 4th *"GWTW" & 5th place was *"Lawrence of Arabia" (l962)
AFI held a (revised 2007 special & poll) but nobody paid attention to it?
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Reckon' he's still thought of as low-bro comedy, but *Mel brooks-(l926-) was awarded this awarded a few yrs ago by The American Film Institute, but that's no exscuse
Mr. Joseph Levitsch-(l926-) deserved this honor this year-(before it's too late of course)
I know there are *Diane Keaton-(l946-) fanatics out there, but fair is fair & AFI has made this errors several times in the past. & given her age vs. his, how can they justify such an oversight?
Matter of fact an actor I fear will never receive it is Oscar winner Robert Duvall-(l93l-) likely rational is he's always been such a superb & yet understated actor-(like his idol *"The Great: Spencer Tracy")
& then of course is the Welsh-Born thespian & arguably among our finest living, if not ever actors: *Sir Anthony Hopkins-(l937-)
I was a card-carrying AFI member starting in '92, though at a lower-level & they have really pulled some stunning omissions over the years!?
(EXAMPLE: Cary Grant-(l904-l986) was voted #2 all-time male movie star & yet they never awarded Archie Leach this award? Even more glaring is *Chaplin & *John Wayne? That was for the 1999 epic special & survey of the top #25 male & female stars, so I'm not certain it was politics as yet that kept *"
The Duke" down at #13th?Anyway, there is nada we can do about it, but of course complain
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(TRIVIA: An example of this was for 1935 *Victor McLaglen won Best actor in "The Informer" (RKO) however, the runner-up that year wasn't even an official contender Paul Muni in "Black Fury" (WB's)
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Something that has always fascinated me, welp, 2 Oscar related topics. When a film takes home BP Gold * not BD, it generally means the latter was the runner up for "The Biggie" i.e. *"In the Heat of the Night" vs. "The Graduate" & many other years
& back during the AMPAS' formative yrs they would announce the actual & official runners-up. This stopped around & for 1935.
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I finally got to see the massively upset 2016 Oscar winning *"Moonlight" about as week ago & was pleasantly surprised. It's always gonna' be marked in huge controversy, mainly because it upset the (14) time nominee "La La Land" & the instantly stunning screwup by *Warren Beatty & *Faye Dunaway when they announced the latter as Best Film of the Year!
Being a very longtime Oscar handicapper, oddsmaker there was virtually no other pundits that forecasted the heavy drama to defeat the musical that evening.
& I was among them, predicting "La La Land' to sweep 8 to 9 statuettes.
But I'm asking 2 questions here, which was a superior picture & 2ndly who was among the chosen few that actually forecasted it to topple the biggie?
To this viewer *"Moonlight" was & is surprisingly very well-,made (***1/2-out of four) & not your typical guns, rap, etc stuff. i.e. "Boyz N'the Hood" or "Menace II Society"
On the other hand I'm among those-(rarely impressed with new releases) but think "La La land' was truly something special & I'm also not a big fan of musicals, but it turned drama later on. & some people have actually called this a life changing experience? I wouldn't go that far myself
1 Oscar in my opinion was a deserved lock in *M. Ali -(s. actor) & it's script
ANYWAY, BALLS IN YOUR COURT
(TRIVIA/NOTE: Strangely within the last 7yrs BP & BD have split though?)
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No new filmmaker has been announced for the Young #HanSolo film. http://share.ew.com/2wNcQly #StarWars
& if possible, likely to even take in more $$$ then "SW: The Force Awakens" ($936m.)
However, no matter what the legendary 1939 *"GWTW" is the all-time champion, adjusted for inflation
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Box office report: Transformers: The Last Knight lands in first place
Along with the recently retired *D. day-Lewis our finest living actor! I'd rank *Duvall & *Penn close behind
WHO KNOWDS WHO "MR. STEVENS" IS BY THE WAY?
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Got to meet *Ron while he was filimng 1985's terrific "Cocoon" down here in st. Petersburg, FL. & much of the cast as well it was in the god awful humidity of august 1984 though
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It is billed as a big screen event.
& along w/"The Beguiled" it may be an Oscar contender. ever see Sofia Coppola utterly marvelous 03 "Lost in Translation?"
& have read a wee-bit about "Detroit" & we can never leave out 8"The Woodman" & his 47th as director "Irrational Man"
Starring "recent Oscar victor Emma Stone & J. Phoenix.
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The great director Samuel Fuller ("The Big Red One," "Merrill's Marauders") did two films about the Korean conflict when the war was going on. Both starred his frequent collaborator Gene Evans.
"The Steel Helmet" (1951) is noteworthy because the U.S. military had been desegregated by President Truman in 1948. As a result, there was a nice role in it for the African-American actor James Edwards, who became known for playing non-stereotyped characters.
The Army unit in the film acquires a Korean orphan (William Chun), a kid they call "Short Round" -- also the nickname of Indiana Jones' sidekick in "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom."
Edwards, Chun (as "Short Round") and Evans in Samuel Fuller's "The Steel Helmet" (1951)
I haven't seen Fuller's other 1951 film -- titled "Fixed Bayonets!" -- but it's said to be James Dean's first picture, although he's uncredited in it.
Dean
I almost forgot the 1960 drama "All the Young Men" -- directed by Hall Barlett ("Zero Hour!") -- which starred Alan Ladd, Sidney Poitier, James Darren...and Mort Sahl. It also reflected the newly desegregated military units of the time.
The careers of Ladd and Poitier were about to go in different directions. Ladd only made four more pictures -- the last was "The Carpetbaggers," released three months after his death in January 1964. Poitier was on the verge of becoming a screen superstar. He won a 1963 Best Actor Oscar for "Lilies of the Field" in April 1964.
A pretty good one too (**1/2) Ladd wearing his patened lifts at barely 5-5 to 5-6 & *Sidney was easily 6'2 & 1/2
It's a bit sad too, watching Alan Ladd towards his finale.
you'll know the title of this one. It was a drama where he was said to be mugged by some punks, in reality he attempted suicide just before hand via rifleshot. so they worked it into him having a limp & crutch
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And then there was "Inchon!" (1981), which was of interest for three reasons. First, it was co-produced by a controversial South Korean figure -- the Rev. Sun Myung Moon of the Unification Church. Second, it was directed by Terence Young, who filmed three of the James Bond movies starring Sir Sean Connery: "Dr. No" (1962), "From Russia with Love" (1963) and "Thunderball" (1965). Third, Sir Laurence Oliver was paid big money to portray the American general Douglas MacArthur, who executed the brilliant U.S. amphibious landing at Inchon in September 1950.
The film, which also starred Richard Roundtree (pictured below with Olivier), Jacqueline Bisset, Ben Gazzara, Toshirô Mifune and David Janssen (in his final film role), turned out to be a box-office disaster. It was panned by critics as well. It received four Golden Raspberry Awards (or Razzies), including Worst Picture and Worst Actor (Olivier).
MAN, YOU AS USUAL HIT A BULLSEYE IN "INCHON"
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Remember the 1977 "Orca" (**-at best) obviously trying to $cash$ in on "Jaws" "Jaws 2" (l978) was mediocre at best **) but then they kept going with 1983's "Jaws-3D" (*1/2) & the worst was 1987's "Jaws: The Revenge" (*)
where it actually had another great white follow Lorraine Gary via airplane to the Bahamas?
when I was in marathon, most islanders used to consider "Jaws" a laugh & a comedy though?
*Spielberg still insists it was the hardest shoot he ever made, due to filming on the water.
Plus, *Dreyfuss & Shaw detested each other-(which played out perfectly on screen)
& the studio originally wanted both *Lee Marvin & Sterling Hayden as Quint
That was a film though that deserved an R-rating all the way. as brilliant as it is
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Yeah, I saw OPEN WATER. Sure put the "kibosh" on my ever wanting to try SCUBA DIVING. That's for SURE!
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It was scary just being in the water & not even going deep You just kept looking around everywhere & expected to sea sharks coming at you
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THANX TO ALL MY FRIENDS!
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A good & little known thriller/horror flick & among the chosen few that can actually scare this viewer
When I was a kid of about 12 I scuba-dived & this was just after the "Jaws" phenomena came out.
To absoilute worst smells one can imagine is between a horse conch & a shark opened up
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Yeah, I saw OPEN WATER. Sure put the "kibosh" on my ever wanting to try SCUBA DIVING. That's for SURE!
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A good & little known thriller/horror flick & among the chosen few that can actually scare this viewer
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Lead or Supporting Role?
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My most glaring examples are boith *Finch in "Network"-(won leading actor statuette & was on screen a grand total of 17 minutes, though he was MAGNIFICENT!)
& of course *Hoipkins as Hannibal Lechter in 18991's *"Silence of the lambs" total screen time was just 22 minutes. OIt' just probable he was so powrerful in that classic role it seemed longer & both campaigned for Best Actor
& even going way back to *"The Great: Spencer Tracy" as Father Tim Mullen in 18936's "San Francisco' obviously a supporting role, but all historians say he was already so popular by then, they wanted him in the leading race instesd. His role in same yrs "Fury" was obviously the lead