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It goes without saying that the film for which Blondell received her only Oscar nomination, The Blue Veil (1951), will not be playing (its caught up in entanglements)... but just the other day, a movie catalog came showing that they are selling a region-free import [read as DVD than can be played anywhere in the world] of the film from Australia, meaning that even if it can't be seen on TCM, it can be found.....
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Premieres:
Career Girls (1997)
Git (1965)
Something Different (1963)
The Return of the Pink Panther (1975)
Countryman (1982)
The Panic in Needle Park (1971)
Beauty's Worth (1922)
The Woman Who Wouldn't Die (1964)
Made in USA (1987)
Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence (1983)
Satanis, The Devil's Mass (1970)
Repeat Performance (1947)
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Just now, Hibi said:
Thanks, I thought it was TCM. I remember recording it. (Stranger). Yes, there's a long list. Stefanie Powers; Pamela Tiffin; Connie Stevens, etc.. Some had success in tv or other venues later on. Others just vanished.
One who i feel never really had her due was Paula Prentiss. She had a few notable parts in the 70s (Stepford Wives and Parallax View, a risque cameo in Catch-22), but as talented as she was, she never was able to get the career she deserved.
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13 minutes ago, Hibi said:
Yes, Once You Kiss A Stranger WAS awful! I remember it playing one week in theaters. Instead of tennis, it took place on a golf course. (FORE!) Talk about boring. I caught in on tv not too long ago (was it on TCM? I can't remember).
Yes, it aired on TCM within the last year or so on the late shift....
10 minutes ago, Hibi said:I'm sure that's what they'll probably do. I know they did that after Doris Day died and they were showing one of her movies (before her tribute day). I think it was Glass Bottom Boat.
That's right. It was Glass Bottom Boat.
29 minutes ago, Hibi said:I feel bad, I was badmouthing her recently on the Just Watched thread, I think, about Return to Peyton Place. And it's super weird they are showing Bunny on Sunday. I hadn't heard about Blue Denim. I will record that as I only saw it once many years ago. She never really got out of the 60s starlet rut of so many 60s young actresses they put in fluff movies (The Pleasure Seekers; Under the Yum Yum Tree, etc.) Poseidon was her main claim to fame.
A lot of actresses did indeed get stuck in that rut. Her Pleasure Seekers co-star Ann-Margret and Jane Fonda were pretty much the only ones to emerge from that, and in both cases it was because of gritty parts in C*a*r*n*a*l Knowledge and They Shoot Horses Don't They....
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14 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
2. There was a pretty thick BIO of GRACE METALIOUS that came out some time ago and it got rave reviews, I wouldn't be the least surprised is MELISSA MCARTHY'S PEOPLE were on it, developing something to try and snag her the BIG, FAT SOLID GOLD DOORSTOP.
I remember there was talk years ago that they wanted Sandra Bullock was wanted to play Grace, but given that they look nothing alike other than the dark hair, it would require an Academy-award level makeup job......
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Just now, LornaHansonForbes said:
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT!
I have always been curious what the deal was with that and have never come across anything in print or on the interwebs that explained this.
I found out a while ago, and I don't remember where i first heard about it, but the Wikipedia article does give a good idea about it all.
Quote"The Rose" was first recorded by Bette Midler for the soundtrack of the 1979 film The Rose in which it plays under the closing credits. However the song was not written for the movie: Amanda McBroom recalls, "I wrote it in 1977 [or] 1978, and I sang it occasionally in clubs. ... Jim Nabors had a local talk show, and I sang ["The Rose"] on his show once."[1] According to McBroom she wrote "The Rose" in response to her manager's suggestion that she write "some Bob Seger-type tunes" to expedite a record deal: McBroom obliged by writing "The Rose" in forty-five minutes. Said McBroom: "'The Rose' is ... just one verse [musically] repeated three times. When I finished it, I realized it doesn't have a bridge or a hook, but I couldn't think of anything to [add]."
McBroom's composition was one of seven songs selected by Midler from thirty song possibilities proffered by Paul A. Rothchild, the producer of The Rose soundtrack album. Reportedly Rothchild had listened to over 3,000 songs in order to assemble those thirty possibilities.[2]
Released as the second single from The Rose soundtrack album, "The Rose" hit number 1 on the Cashbox Top 100 and peaked at number 3 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart. Additionally, it was number 1 on the Adult Contemporary chart for five weeks running. The single was certified Gold by the RIAA for over a half million copies sold in the United States.[3][4]
Midler won the Grammy Award for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance for "The Rose", beating out formidable competition from Barbra Streisand and Donna Summer among others.[5]
....."The Rose" did not receive a nomination for the Academy Award for Best Original Song. Despite not having been recorded prior to the soundtrack of the film The Rose, the song had not been written for the film. According to McBroom, AMPAS inquired of her if the song had been written for the movie, and McBroom answered honestly (that it had not). McBroom did however win the Golden Globe Award for Best Original Song for "The Rose", as that award's governing body, the Hollywood Foreign Press Association (HFPA), does not share AMPAS' official meticulousness over a nominated song's being completely original with its parent film.[6]
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13 hours ago, Fedya said:
One of the songs from Xanadu -- take your pick -- deserved an Oscar nomination, but it was a really strong year for the Original Song category. Well, except I don't know how that song from The Competition got nominated. But then a pretty bad song from 10 was nominated the previous year. The Academy just likes certain types of songs.
The academy lineup was two from Fame (title song and "Out Here on My Own"), the title track from Nine to Five, "On the Road Again" from Honeysuckle Rose and "People Alone" from The Competition (which was an odd touch having a discoish song at the end of a film about classical piano playing)
Left out: The whole soundtrack of Xanadu, Blondie's thumping "Call Me" from American Gigolo, the rest of the Fame songs, Diana Ross's "It's My Turn" from the film of the same name, Kenny Loggins' "I'm Alright" from Caddyshack, and Donna Summer's "On the Radio" from Foxes. Some of the Popeye songs were fun too.
if I'd have to make a top 5 (gulp. Daunting task.)....
"Magic"/Xanadu
"Nine to Five"/Nine to Five
"Out Here on My Own"/Fame
"Suspended in Time"/Xanadu
"Whenever I'm Away from You"/XanaduI'd need some time to decide which one to pick ultimately.
Re: 1979 Oscar race for song. I think the whole momentum of that race was changed when it was revealed that "The Rose" was not originally written for that film (not that is stopped the academy from nominating "Do You Know Where You're Going To" and "Maniac"). On another website, someone once shared the Preliminary Oscar shortlists for the technical categories that they did between 1964 and 1979. (they started doing it again this past year, which might have explained a few surprise nominations) That year's song race and the 5 that came closest to being included....
QuoteICE CASTLES, "Through the Eyes of Love"; Marvin Hamlisch; Alan and Marilyn Bergman
THE MUPPET MOVIE, "The Rainbow Connection"; Paul Williams and Kenny Ascher
NORMA RAE, "It Goes Like It Goes"; David Shire; Norman Gimbel
THE PROMISE, "I'll Never Say Goodbye"; David Shire; Alan and Marilyn Bergman
'10', "It's Easy to Say"; Henry Mancini; Robert WellsCHAPTER TWO, "I'm On Your Side"; Marvin Hamlisch; Carole Bayer Sager
THE MUPPET MOVIE, "Movin' Right Along"; Paul Williams and Kenny Ascher
THE MUPPET MOVIE, "Never Before Again"; Paul Williams and Kenny Ascher
THE MUPPET MOVIE, "Something Better Comes Along"; Paul Willliams and Kenny Ascher
THE ROSE, "Sold My Soul to Rock "n" Roll"; Gene Pistelli -
Xanadu (1980) -- Source: Showtime
So, um, yes, this one. Curiosity let me go for it. The soundtrack is for the most part surprisingly great. I knew of "Magic" and "Xanadu", but "Whenever You're Away from Me", "Suddenly", "Don't Walk Away", "All Over the World" and "Suspended in Time" are smashingly effective as well. Olivia Newton-John is likable and melodious and Gene Kelly is a welcome sight as ever. They both play a bit of a back seat to Michael Beck. And the storyline, while obviously fantasy, is quite charming, like a late 1940s film. However, the drawbacks are that the whole roller disco theme was dated right at the film's release, and the ultimate (long) disco scene at the end is very hokey looking. The best scene comes early (the Kelly/Newton-John song and dance scene which is very nostalgic and left me with a big smile). A few production numbers can cause winces. The film is better when it doesn't have flashing lights and goofy Disco dancers, and yet, the film has something about it that makes it likable and that helps get it over its rough patches. A guilty pleasure type.
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Seen: 52 films
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1. Running on Empty
2. My Neighbor Totoro
3. Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
4. Madame Sousatzka
5. Married to the Mob
6. Zelly and Me
7. A Cry in the Dark
8. Cinema Paradiso
9. Another Woman
10. The Accidental TouristActor
1. River Phoenix/Running on Empty
2. Leslie Nielsen/The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!
3. Edward James Olmos/Stand and Deliver
4. Sean Bean/Stormy Monday
5. William Hurt/The Accidental Tourist
6. Gene Hackman/Mississippi Burning
7. Jeff Bridges/Tucker: The Man and His Dream
8. Bruce Willis/Die Hard
9. Bob Hoskins/Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
10. Don Ameche/Things ChangeActress
1. Shirley MacLaine/Madame Sousatzka
2. Gena Rowlands/Another Woman
3. Meryl Streep/A Cry in the Dark
4. Glenn Close/Dangerous Liaisons
5. Christine Lahti/Running on Empty
6. Carmen Maura/Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
7. Melanie Griffith/Stormy Monday
8. Isabelle Adjani/Camille Claudel
9. Isabella Rossellini/Zelly and Me
10. Jodie Foster/The AccusedSupporting Actor
1. Alan Rickman/Die Hard
2. Geoffrey Bayldon/Madame Sousatzka
3. Martin Landau/Tucker: the Man and His Dream
4. Raul Julia/Moon Over Parador
5. John Goodman/Everybody's All-American
6. Divine/Hairspray
7. Dean Stockwell/Married to the Mob
8. David Lynch/Zelly and Me
9. Steven Hill/Running on Empty
10. Burt Lancaster/Rocket GibraltarSupporting Actress
1. Mercedes Ruehl/Married to the Mob
2. Twiggy/Madame Sousatzka
3. Sandy Dennis/Another Woman
4. Sylvia Miles/Crossing Delancey
5. Amy Wright/The Accidental Tourist
6. Geena Davis/The Accidental Tourist
7. Joan Cusack/Working Girl
8. Frances McDormand/Mississippi Burning
9. Peggy Ashcroft/Madame Sousatzka
10. Glynis Johns/Zelly and MeJuvenile Performance
1. Navin Chowdhry/Madame Sousatzka
2. Alexandra Johnes/Zelly and Me
3. Jodhi May/A World Apart
4. Annabeth Gish/Mystic Pizza
5. Salvatore Cascio/Cinema Paradiso
6. Jared Rushton/Big
7. Macauley Culkin/Rocket Gibraltar
8. Winona Ryder/Beetlejuice
9. Mayim Bialik/Beaches
10. Neil Patrick Harris/Clara's HeartEnsemble
1. Madame Sousatzka
2. Running on Empty
3. Married to the Mob
4. The Accidental Tourist
5. Zelly and Me
6. Stand and Deliver
7. Dangerous Liaisons
8. Beetlejuice
9. Another Woman
10. Stormy MondayDirecting
1. Sidney Lumet/Running on Empty
2. John Schlesinger/Madame Sousatzka
3. Fred Schepisi/A Cry in the Dark
4. Jonathan Demme/Married to the Mob
5. Tina Rathborne/Zelly and Me
6. Pedro Almodovar/Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
7. Woody Allen/Another Woman
8. Lawrence Kasdan/The Accidental Tourist
9. Francis Ford Coppola/Tucker: The Man and His Dream
10. Mike Figgis/Stormy MondayForeign Film
1. My Neighbor Totoro
2. Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
3. Cinema Paradiso
4. Camille Claudel
5. Grave of the FirefliesAnimated Film
1. My Neighbor Totoro
2. Grave of the Fireflies
3. Oliver and Company
4. The Land Before TimeOriginal Screenplay
1. Running on Empty
2. Married to the Mob
3. Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
4. Another Woman
5. Zelly and Me
6. Coming to America
7. Working Girl
8. Rain Man
9. Die hard
10. My Neighbor TotoroAdapted Screenplay
1. Madame Sousatzka
2. The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!
3. The Accidental Tourist
4. A Cry in the Dark
5.Crossing Delancey
6. Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
7. Biloxi Blues
8. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
9.Gorillas in the Mist
10. Dangerous LiaisonsCinematography
1. Stormy Monday
2. Gorillas in the Mist
3. Tucker: The Man and His Dream
4. The Milagro Beanfield War
5. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
6. Madame Sousatzka
7. Zelly and Me
8. Masquerade
9. Biloxi Blues
10. Funny FarmArt Direction
1. Tucker: The Man and His Dream
2. Dangerous Liaisons
3. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
4. Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
5. Beetlejuice
6. Camille Claudel
7. The Moderns
8. Cinema Paradiso
9. Die Hard
10. ScroogedCostume Design
1. Dangerous Liaisons
2. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
3. Tucker: The Man and His Dream
4. The Moderns
5. Everybody's All American
6. Moon Over Parador
7. Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
8. Coming to America
9. Beetlejuice
10. Big BusinessScore
1. Madame Sousatzka
2. Stormy Monday
3. The Accidental Tourist
4. My Neighbor Totoro
5. Rain Man
6. Cinema Paradiso
7. A World Apart
8. Zelly and Me
9. Masquerade
10. Die HardSong
1. "This Woman's Work"/She's Having a Baby
2. "Calling You"/Bagdad Cafe
3. "Let the River Run"/Working Girl
4. "Two Hearts"/Buster
5. "Why Should I Worry"/Oliver and Company
6. "Stand and Deliver"/Stand and Deliver
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Just now, Fedya said:
Alternatively, I'd suggest these:
Yeah, the Pet Shop Boys/Dusty Springfield number is one of the year's best, if not the best. It's delightful.
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Just now, Fedya said:
(Seriously, it actually is from 1988.)
Hehe, I admit i like that song (unpopular opinion). Maybe i should have also posted the 1988 song What Have I Done to Deserve This as the other nominees reaction to losing that night at the grammys.....
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So, yes, I decided to go through with the alternate Oscar idea after some thought. I randomized all the years from 1927-2008 (at least 11 years vantage point), and 1988 turns out to be the first year via randomization (1944 and 1999 are next in line). Remember, this whole series will be about your personal picks, not the academy's. You can vote in as many or in as few categories as you want in top 5s or top 10s. Probably unnecessary to say, but in all categories aside from Best Song (which can be judged on its own terms and are sometimes separate from the film) you must have seen the films you mention.
Here (arranged by popularity) are films released in 1988, courtesy of IMDb to jog your mind if you need help.
So lets see what the Oscar categories were in 1988.
It's also allowed to include categories that the Oscars don't such as ensemble cast, Juvenile Performance (like in Bogie's venerable and beloved thread over in Your Favorites), or anything else that strikes you as important. (You could even do worst film as well, if you want to)
Now its up to you. Go wild with your picks, and don't let is stand in your way!
Recap will be held to see if there is a consensus lineup....
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There was another 1967 film which came with that fictitious person disclaimer: Valley of the Dolls. that despite the fact that in certain circles it was a bit of a parlor game trying to find out who the characters were based on, given that it was widely assumed that Jacqueline Susann based her characters on real-life big names.
Also, if I remember correctly, the DVD of the 1985 James Bond film A View to a Kill opens with a disclaimer that the villain Max Zorin (Christopher Walken) or his company is not based on anyone or any company existant. For which i think we can breathe a big sigh of relief, because nobody wants a neo-Nazi sociopath who ploys to drown Silicon Valley and machine gun and/or drown all of his associates so there aren't any witnesses to his treachery.
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1 hour ago, speedracer5 said:
-"Angels in the Snow," not a Rhoda episode per se, but I love the rapport between Rhoda and Mary while shopping at Shot Down in Ecuador Jr, the young 20-something shop that Mary decides to go into. Mary's pants btw are hideous. If MTM can't make those look good, nobody can.
I'd say Rhoda played a pretty big role in this one and had some of her best lines in it....
"I wonder if shy people shop here" (said while holding up a sheer, see-through pair of pants)
"12 years ago, I was sitting at a party like this, drinking wine out of a paper cup like this. You've come a long way baby"
(over snow angels which Mary tried to justify by saying "Come on they did it in Love Story!") "great. Maybe somebody will mistake me for Ali Macgraw: Terminal but Cute."
"If the wine has a cute name, he's under 30." (over Peter Strauss's age) Reads the label aloud "Granny's Apple Pizazz"
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2 minutes ago, TheCid said:
I have long believed that Emmys, Oscars and other awards should not be repeatable. Say, a winner has to sit out for the nest two or three years.
Maybe then, that way, Angela Lansbury could have finally won for Murder She Wrote.....
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Just now, LornaHansonForbes said:
I KNOW, RIGHT?
so much cocaine in the 80's is the only explanation.
Just for a little taste of reality, music videos for the 4 songs that Don't Worry Be Happy beat out for the top prize of Song of the year in 1988.....
I feel that when Don't Worry be Happy won that prize, the other n ominees should have started belting out an a capella version of this other 1988 hit.....
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Just now, LornaHansonForbes said:
I TOTALLY HEAR AND UNDERSTAND YOU ON THAT, but I dunno, THE GRAMMYS have been SO SPECTACULARLY WHACKTACULAR since GOD WAS A BOY. like, seriously, it's genuinely HILARIOUS to look at the history of who won what in what years and what did not win- ESPECIALLY BEST NEW ARTIST- which in terms of being A REAL SHOWBIZ KISS OF DEATH is right up there with BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS.
I also really think THE OSCARS are getting to a point where they're still IMPORTANT to some, but their reputation is definitely not what it once was.
New Artist has sometimes worked for some, although its pretty apparent that more of the famous ones that won the prize were in earlier decades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Best_New_Artist
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Just now, LornaHansonForbes said:
but yes, THE WORST THING about THE EMMYS is the habit they have of giving it to the some damn people EVERY SINGLE YEAR, ALTHOUGH, the voting system is peculair- you win an EMMY for ONE SINGLE EPISODE OF A SHOW that is SUBMITTED, not for the whole season run...maybe that factors in to why people so often win EVERY SINGLE DAMN YEAR
I still sometimes wonder about that system. A few years ago, after that miniseries Feud about Bette and Joan was over, it was revealed that Jessica Lange was put up for the Oscars of 1962 episode. Admitedyl, that was a big episode, but if anybody should have been placed up for that episode it was Judy Davis (who was indeed). Jessica should have been up for the last episode, which was one of her best performances.
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Just now, LornaHansonForbes said:
I TOTALLY HEAR AND UNDERSTAND YOU ON THAT, but I dunno, THE GRAMMYS have been SO SPECTACULARLY WHACKTACULAR since GOD WAS A BOY. like, seriously, it's genuinely HILARIOUS to look at the history of who won what in what years and what did not win- ESPECIALLY BEST NEW ARTIST- which in terms of being A REAL SHOWBIZ KISS OF DEATH is right up there with BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS.
I also really think THE OSCARS are getting to a point where they're still IMPORTANT to some, but their reputation is definitely not what it once was.
The Grammy I can't fathom is "Don't Worry Be Happy" winning for song of the year in 1988. Seriously?!?!
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Just now, TopBilled said:
I think people confuse the wholesomeness of Laura Petrie (Moore's earlier sitcom role) with the spunkiness of Mary Richards. They were two different characters. Also, Mary was originally slated to be a divorcee, which couldn't get past the censors in 1970. So she became a single unmarried woman who obviously was not a virgin. Interestingly, Valerie's character Rhoda did become a divorcee on her successful spinoff.
I've read a book on the making of the Mary Tyler Moore Show, the time it was on the air, and the aftereffects on cast and crew. CBS seemingly had a few rules in 1970: a show musn't be about a divorcee, musn't be set in New York, and musn't be completely about a Jewish character (which is highly anti-Semetic). Rhoda broke all those rules just a few years later on the same network......
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Just now, TopBilled said:
I agree. We have people sugar-coating these shows now, with a wand of nostalgia. But the truth is these shows were cutting-edge, counter-cultural and groundbreaking in many ways. In ways that made a lot of viewers uncomfortable. They were not pablum for the masses. Mary was a far cry from Donna Reed. And Archie was a far cry from Ward Cleaver.
i think with Mary Tyler Moore, it appears more wholesome in retrospect, within a few years racier sitcoms were coming in the form of Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman and Soap, plus others after that that were more provocative, first on the networks, and especially on cable channels like FX and HBO, where they are usually studded with language, and (on HBO at least) nudity. In today's world, even those other two 70s ones are considered tame. I was thrown for a loop when the DVDs of Hartman said "Not Rated. Appropriate for all ages", a pretty shocking statement when the show included over time a flasher, a house of prostitution, affairs, insatiability, a nervous breakdown, massacres,spousal abuse, diseases of an intimate sort, bizarre freak demises, and waxy yellow buildup on the kitchen floor
among other such sundry topics.
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6 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
If they could give Emmys for Emmy speeches, he'd've gotten my vote (even though CANDACE BERGEN would probably win because it was 90'S EMMY LAW that she had to win every time she was nominated)
Candice was on a bit of a run there for a while. 5 Emmys for the first 7 years of Murphy Brown (which she was very good in). After that, to give others a chance, she asked her name to be removed from the ballot.....And then Helen Hunt won 4 years in a row for Mad About You. Candice did have the record for most Emmys for anybody in a single role until Julia Louis-Dreyfuss won 6 in a row for Veep on HBO. If Ms. Louis-Dreyfuss wins the category again this year (she most likely will), she will set the most Emmys record, taking the title away from Cloris Leachman.
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I'll give the best designation to Catch-22. You can tell which one is the worst.
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Not due until next year, but an early 80s Western is making its home entertainment debut in 2020. It's Cattle Annie and Little Britches (1981), of interest perhaps for its cast: Amanda Plummer, Diane Lane, Burt Lancaster, Rod Steiger, Scott Glenn, and John Savage. Upon its release, Pauline Kael raved that Burt Lancaster's performance was among his best and that Amanda Plummer (her debut) gave an extraordinary performance that riveled memories of Katharine Hepburn. Strangely never put on video or laserdisc, it will arrive on DVD and Blu-Ray
among other such sundry topics.
Treasures From The Disney Vault
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Actually, the Satanic panic over Black Cauldron and also the two Care Bears things here reminds me that Disney did go into that territory with 1981's little seen the Devil and Max Devlin, a little seen take on the Faust tale with Elliott Gould as Max and Bill Cosby as the devil. [You could also argue that 1993's Hocus Pocus went there too with its over-the-top, soul-sucking, wisecracking, hex-making witches]