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It definitely is a bleak film. And Hayward is exceptional in it.
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Well it seems that Robert Morley's line about Aunt Jemima in 1978's Who is Killing the Great Chefs of Europe was prescient.....
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44 minutes ago, Hoganman1 said:
Just finished Zodiac (again). This movie fascinates me. It's hard to believe they never caught him and there are so many opinions as to who he was, or is. I've done quite a bit of research and while I think it was Arthur Leigh Allen, I'm not sure. There are complete web sites totally dedicated to this case. It's probably second only to the Kennedy assassination in terms of interest and wild theories. The movie is really well done and follows Greysmith's book almost to the letter. It's a great study of how solving the mystery affected the three main characters . Robert Greysmith, Paul Avery and Dave Toschi are brilliantly portrayed by Jake Gyllenhaal, Robert Downey Jr, and Mark Ruffalo. Kudos to director David Fincher for creating such a great film. I've always liked movies about serial killers and how detectives catch them after lengthy cat and mouse games. I guess I'm intrigued by this case because the "bad" guy got away with it.
That's one brilliant movie. It might have been made in 2007, but it feels like a film made in the early 70s period when it is mostly set. It's a nigh on perfect film.
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13 hours ago, skimpole said:
And yet I'm seeing Salvatore Giuliano on TCM this very minute.
It's been a frequent schedule glitch recently where Until the End of the World shows up in the TCM Imports slot , even though its actually not airing.
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13 hours ago, skimpole said:
So just to be clear Singin' in the Rain got a nomination for score, made the run-off for editing, costume design, and didn't make art direction and cinematography at all?
That's correct.
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10 hours ago, TikiSoo said:
How about comparing GWTW to the classic film that centers around racism, GUESS WHOS COMING TO DINNER? '67. People watching that today WONDER what the fuss is all about, interracial marriage is finally no longer an issue to most Americans.
Yes, that's a good one to bring up. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner was filmed while interracial marriage was illegal in 16 states. The Loving V. Virginia case changed that only two weeks after filming ended (and two days after Spencer Tracy died). So what was illegal in a big section of the country when they were filming was legal by the time it was released. The film was clearly meant to be a comforting yet probing look at what was a major lighting rod in the lower half of the country. It was made with the best intentions (even if the film is not as hard hitting as the 1964 independent film One Potato Two Potato).
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On 5/8/2020 at 2:45 PM, AdamW said:
Thanks for sharing this, CinemaInternational! Tickled to death that somebody is as fascinated by these lists as I've been. I ran across this post while searching for citations. I'd been compiling the shortlists on a new Wikipedia page, but as of this morning it's been flagged for deletion due to, well, a lack of interest from Wikipedia editors. So my Letterboxd list and the Google doc may be the best options for anyone interested in these as I search for more of the missing shortlists.
I'm always hopeful and eager that the 1948 shortlists will be found and that the 1980s and 1990s lists for VFX, sound editing, makeup and documentaries will be made public.
Well thank you for recovering and creating the lists online in the first place!
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11 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:
Maybe they thought Teri Hatcher's bewbs would entice the straight male crowd to see a movie that looked very chick-flicky.
Full disclosure: I saw Soapdish in the theater. It was during a time when I saw virtually everything that came to my local 4 (now 6)-screen cinema.
Welcome back!
You've been missed around here.
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4 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
And Killer Bees.
Full confession off topic.... when they brought up those murder hornets a few weeks ago, I honestly thought that it would unfortunately lead to a resurgence of interest in The Swarm......
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1 minute ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
i wonder why CATHY MORIARTY isn't on the SOAP DISH poster? Wonder if TERI HATCHER pulled some strings to be included instead. It's a shame that CATHY MORIARTY didn't work more, she was in a TALES FROM THE CYPT noir-like episode not too long after this...
I'm not quite certain. She had small roles in some other comedies in the early 90s, but given her Oscar nod for Raging Bull and her Soapdish performance, you would have thought that bigger things would have come calling. And it is bizarre that she was not on the poster given the prominance of her role, much larger than Teri Hatcher's.... but then again on the poster, Elisabeth Shue, another pivotal player in the film, was the only one of the main six performers to be listed under the film's title, kind of buried. And Shue was barely seen in the trailer as well.
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6 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
"I get these letters. LOOK AT THESE! "Celeste Talbert is a menopausal hag, let's see more of Monthana Moorehead."" Sees worker looking at her incredulously. "WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?!?!" Resumes talking to Robert Downey Jr. "Maria Rendozi, Fort Lee, New Jersey. Fort Lee, that's your audience OK? That's the heartland."
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6 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
Nothing is equal to SOAPDISH.
It's A GREAT MOVIE!
PS- CATHY MORIARTY legit deserved a Supporting Actress nomination
I saw it again on Sunday.
Bring it out a few times a year. And Moriarty would definitely be in contention for a Oscar nomination from me in 1991.
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8 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
THANK YOU!
Re: your list1991 was also a film I enjoyed a lot, although surprisingly a lot of critics have labeled it a very poor year for films. Go figure.
Ps- You are Not a fan of the CAPE FEAR remake I see! (There’s another hometown connection for me with that movie as well.)
pss- As a fan of soap operas, I kinda liked DELIRIOUS
It's a terribly underrated year, and in my opinion, one of the last few super strong years. So many good scripts and performances in 1991. But then again movie critics nowadays place laurels around the startlingly hit and miss 1999 as a great year (in addition to not being a fan of a few of the praised films that year, I suffered through Big Daddy, Baby Geniuses, Inspector Gadget, The Deep End of the Ocean, and The Other Sister, films that would normally deep six any years claim to being the best of all time), so there is no accounting for taste.
Yeah, the Cape Fear remake left me rather angry, its relentless sadism ultimately buries everything (including Nick Nolte's fine turn) under a morass of junk.
Delirious just suffers from being in a good year. It made me laugh several times, its likable, and the cast is having fun, but its not an equal to Tootsie or 1991's other Soap spoof Soapdish, which is very funny.
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On 6/8/2020 at 9:06 AM, LornaHansonForbes said:
everyone stay calm, I am hijacking this thread...
I thought about bringing this up in the I JUST WATCHED thread, but it actually kinda fits with with our conversation re: THE POSSESSION OF JOEL DELANEY, and also i feel like I'll get more of a response here.
I also note that the following is a direct result of my having too much GD time on my hands as a result of our present situation.
So, I watched BLUE VELVET this weekend for the first time and it made QUITE an impression on me (review in the I JUST WATCHED thread)- I was also struck by LAURA DERN in the film, which made me recall the 1991 film RAMBLING ROSE, which was also (I think) filmed in my hometown and for which DERN and her mother DIANE LADD received OSCAR NOMINATIONS- the first and only instance of a mother and daughter being nominated in the same year or for the same film, which I thought was really sweet (I also had really liked DIANE LADD in WILD AT HEART- for which she was also nominated)
I was about 13 years old, and I really wanted to see the film because- from the little I had heard- it was a Depression era PRETTY WOMAN-meets-THE FARMER'S DAUGHTER sort of comedy...but even after DERN and LADD got nominated- the film played NOWHERE LOCALLY (I doubt it played on many screens) and did not show up on cable and we were all confused. (this was, again 1991- the days before the post 1996 WEINSTEIN ERA OSCARS where the BEST ACTRESS LIST was more often than not mostly/largely/somewhat comprised of actresses you had never heard of in films someone would have to pay you to see.)
I was also STUNNED that DIANE LADD lost (to Mercedes Ruehl for Godsakes) as it seemed like HER YEAR.
And then that summer, RAMBLING ROSE played on PAY-Per-view, WHICH YES, WE STOLE.
And I think my Dad, my sister and I sat down to watch it and HOLY ****.
Not only do I doubt this film would be made today, IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE FIRST PLACE, and I say that as a very left-leaning sex positive type.
There is a scene where ROBERT DUVALL fondles and [sorry to give you this visual] suckles upon DERN'S bare breasts in front of his children- albeit unknowingly, while the children comment on said suckling.
there is also a scene where DERN engages in a sex act with a 12 year old boy.
In the years since, RAMBLING ROSE has remained pretty much unseen and un-aired, but it just strikes me, like JOEL DELANEY- as a valid case citation in re: "HOLLYWOOD REALLY HAS NO MORALS or DECENCY," an argument that- while those making it are usually awful- I have to say, I can see their point from time to time.
DID ANY OF YOU ALSO SEE THIS PIECE OF TRASH? AM I REMMEBERING WRONG???
I saw it on February 13, 2018 on a videotape from the library. I don't recall Duvall and Dern's scene (though it could have been there because I remember there was something going in between those two, and after checking IMDb's parents guide, it is part of the film), but I definitely recall the scene with the sex act between Laura Dern and Lukas Haas underneath the bedcovers. Made me deeply uncomfortable and it was definitely an immoral scene. And its really curious because much of the rest of the film seemed rather delicate and dainty, and then you have THAT. I do recall being impressed by Diane Ladd's performance in it, she was marvelous in it, and the Elmer Bernstein musical score and the honeyed cinematography. But as i said, that scene was something else and not in a good way.
It's really curious how many scenes there were like that in the 80s and early 90s with underaged characters in raunchy scenes (Olivia D'Abo in Bolero or Christian Slater in The Name of the Rose, which you mentioned in the other thread) or where it was implied or partially shown that they were going off to the boudoir with older individuals (Annabeth Gish and William R Moses in Mystic Pizza, Navin Chowdhry and Twiggy in Madame Sousatzka, Emily Lloyd and John Terry in In Country, Chris O'Donnell and Joan Cusack in Men Don't Leave) I mean, I actually liked the four films I just mentioned, but it just felt like a sour note in all of them. That said also, Jessica Lange (as O'Donnell's mother) told off the Cusack character in Men Don't Leave about that relationship. You also had the horrifying rape flashback scene in The Prince of Tides (again, good movie, terrible scene) and all that queasiness in the Cape Fear remake.
Regarding 1991, that's a year with a lot of cinematic memories for me. I'm sharing a ranked list of what I have seen (and Rambling Rose is pretty far down the pack) The first 50 I'd recommend, 51 (Rambling Rose) through 60 are marginal. 61 through 63 are definite no-nos from me.
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4 hours ago, JeanneCrain said:
Since my recorder doesn’t possess corresponding NOW-THEN-LATER buttons the ending of last evening’s airing of “The Five Pennies” 1959 (I patiently waited over a decade for TCM to air) wasn’t seen this morning as the recorder was set per TCM’s online schedules times, which had no way of adjusting to actual NOW-THEN-LATER airing times…the movie apparently started late and thus ended late, as in, later than the TCM online scheduled times the recorder was set to.
PO’d
Yes. I noticed that the timeslot for it actuially started at 12:02 last night, plus when you throw in a 4 minute intro, it cut the last four minutes of the film. I don't blame you for being angry.
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I think I read where Goldsmith's chances were hurt a bit by his being dismayed about his score for the other 1979 sci-fi film he was involved with, Alien. While some of his new music ended up being used in the film, portions of it were reused from his score for 1962's Freud, and the whole end credits music was not his. Quite a bit that he wrote for that film got scrapped. Goldsmith made it known that if he was to be nominated in 1979, he wanted the notice to be for Star Trek. And some say that hurt him. It might not have helped either that Star Trek was only finished about a day before it was released.
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I haven't seen Pete 'N Tillie, but I saw the other four, and while it's a tight match, I think I would have gone with Jeannie Berlin, who is the most charming and sympathetic presence in The Heartbreak Kid. And when she gets her heart broken, my heart broke for her as well. Wonderful work. Among unnominated work, I wish Madeline Kahn had been nominated for playing in What's Up Doc;Ida Lupino was wonderful in her limited time in Junior Bonner; Geraldine Page had a good one-scene role in JW Coop; Anna Massey was nicely understated in Frenzy; and Janet Leigh was deliciously brassy in One is a Lonely Number.
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On 6/3/2020 at 11:51 PM, kingrat said:
Mourning Becomes Electra is on during the Thursday day schedule. Many people thought Rosalind Russell would win the Oscar for this movie. Then they actually saw the movie.
Both the movie and Roz in this film have their defenders, but this is classic Oscar bait. A prestigious Eugene O'Neill play, unfortunately not very well directed. Roz gives a much better performance in a film noir/domestic melodrama from the same year, The Guilt of Janet Ames, which has not turned up on TCM recently.
She really does have her high points in the film, and the film itself i found to be better than reputation, but its still a long haul of a film.
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On 6/3/2020 at 6:53 PM, Dargo said:
Why, thanks for the compliments here, midwesty! That was very nice of you to say this.
However, I must add here that you seemed just a bit remiss in failing to ALSO note what a good lookin' guy I am too! Well, for an old grey-bearded f*art, anyway.
LOL
Hey, this reminds me here, and speaking of "wit, wisdom and knowledge"(and although I don't know how "good lookin'" HE is...LOL) has anyone heard from our friend Lawrence for awhile? Don't think I've run across any postings from him around here for quite some time.
(...now THERE'S a guy I always thought when it came to "wit, wisdom and knowledge", I couldn't hold a candle to)
On 6/3/2020 at 8:01 PM, sewhite2000 said:The last time I can remember a post from Lawrence was right after I'd returned home from nearly a two-month stay at my parents' house to keep an eye on them in the early months of the pandemic. One day is just like another. I'm not even sure how long I've been back. Just a few days shy of a full month, I think. Lawrence, if you're still around, at least post to let us know you're all right!
On 6/3/2020 at 8:36 PM, midwestan said:Yeah, I was wondering about him today too. Lafitte hasn't been too active lately either, for that matter. Of course, I'm sort of a 'will-o-the-wisp' with my postings too. I like hanging out at various websites, but I mostly lurk. Sometimes I laugh. Sometimes I roll my eyes. But, I always learn...
On 6/4/2020 at 1:47 AM, Capuchin said:If you check the early May posts in the cesspool (Off-Topic), you'll see the insults he's been suffering lately from the TDS crowd. He changed his avatar the other day, so he's probably fine, just not eager to participate.
On 6/4/2020 at 6:34 AM, sagebrush said:I had been thinking about his absence as well for a few weeks, then I too saw he had changed his avatar. Hopefully, he is okay.
I haven't spoken to Lawrence recently, but he is fine. A few weeks ago I helped him with some questions about Letterboxd, the film logging website, and while he took a week off from both here and there (which really made me very concerned and worried for him), he has been logging films over there as recently as earlier today, so he's doing well. So far, in the last few weeks, of the films he has seen, he liked 1917 (2019) the most. Got a 9/10 from him.
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Speedy, hope you don't mind but I shared the list of stars elsewhere so people will know who will be on this Summer.
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And a big welcome back to one former TCM staple from the 70s, Foul Play. It is one of my favorite comedies, and this is only its third airing in the last 10 years.
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4 hours ago, Sepiatone said:
I'd like to find a disc of the TV movie remake of FROM HERE TO ETERNITY with WILLIAM DEVANE as Warden, NATALIE WOOD as Karen Holmes, STEVE RAILSBACK as Prewitt, KIM BASINGER as Lorene and PETER BOYLE as Fatso Judson. JOE PANTOLIANO's Maggio wasn't up to Sinatra's, but very good anyway.
Sepiatone
Natalie Wood got a Golden Globe for it, the last acting prize she received. According to her daughter in that HBO documentary last month, she wasn't expecting to win.
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Premieres:
You and Me (1938) [Sylvia Sidney]
Thirty Day Princess (1934) [Sylvia Sidney]
The First Wives Club (1996) {Goldie Hawn]
CrissCross (1992) [Goldie Hawn]
Tap (1989) [Sammy Davis Jr.]
Night Club Scandal (1937) [John Barrymore]
The Devil's Playground (1937) [Dolores Del Rio]
The Senator Was Indiscreet (1947) [William Powell]
Danger Route (1967) [Diana Dors]
The Weak and the Wicked (1954) [Diana Dors]
Loan Shark (1952) [George Raft]
I'll Get You (1953) [George Raft]
Steamboat Round the Bend (1935) [Anne Shirley]
For Men Only (1951) [Paul Henreid]
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Morley's character was a food snob and in the film, two of his favorite chefs had been killed by the time of the line. So he sarcastically says at one point: "Don't tell me another cook has been murdered! Who is it this time, Aunt Jemima?"