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Seconding the recommendation of The Cat's Meow. I've been currently working on a top 20 of the year project starting in the present and working back on another website, and The Cat's Meow came in at #7 for 2001. It's a wonderful film.
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18 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
SHIRLEY must’ve taken the flop of SWEET CHARITY and the cancellation of her brief TV series “Shirleys World” EXTRA HARD to have said “yes” to DELANEY.
And also apparently, Shirley was seemingly very messed up after this. She vowed never to make another horror film as this one's filming left her so discombobulated.
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8 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
SHIRLEY must’ve taken the flop of SWEET CHARITY and the cancellation of her brief TV series “Shirleys World” EXTRA HARD to have said “yes” to DELANEY.
One can only imagine the conversation between Shirley and her agent:
“Yeah Shirl, here’s the script, but just so you know upfront: it requires full frontal nudity from your 12-year-old male Co Star and there’s a scene where you’re both gonna be forced to eat dog food...”
(listens to receiver)
”seriously? Ok Babe, I smell an Oscar!”
There was also Desperate Characters in there as well in the early 70s, which is the only film she ever did a nude scene for. It flopped too..... and low and behold, England's ITC entertainment was behind all three of them. Shirley was likely under contact to them at the time via the TV show, and then when it ended after only a season, she had to make a pair of films to complete the contract. (ITC did a similar thing to Julie Andrews and Blake Edwards a few years later.... Julie had a one season TV show [much acclaimed actually] and to get out of the contract she starred in The Tamarind Seed and the second film was a Pink Panther film she did not appear in)
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But then again, it seems most things get DVD releases. Lylah Clare got a DVD release; The Oscar actually got a DVD and a Blu-Ray release this year....
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10 minutes ago, Hibi said:
I see. Oh, well, DId it ever come out on DVD? (Probably not).
It did. But, per IMDb's old messageboards accessable at filmboards.com the DVD widescreen ratio made it so that it was not quite as explicit (like The Last Picture Show's pool scene). The videotape version was more explicit.
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42 minutes ago, Hibi said:
Well, I've seen Perry doing a frontal in Mandingo which TCM DID show. LOL.
But the problem is the full frontal in Delaney is that of someone underage. There has been much talk that that would get it an NC-17 or banned outright today, because it is that seriously sicko.
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6 minutes ago, TikiSoo said:
Sounds grueling, not fun. I always marvel at the TCM posters here who follow guidelines for movie watching. Sometimes I get in a groove, like seeing a bunch of Anna Magnani or Elia Kazan movies. But most often driven by mood like Kathy Najimy's character in THE FISHER KING:
"I want a Katherine Hepburn-y, Ethel Merman-y kind of movie, something that will make me laugh. I gotta laugh tonight"
Usually I'm like you in that I whiz about from film to film by my general mood with no particular guidelines in place, and usually 2005 is one of the last years I would go about investigating, it is true. The plus of this experiment though is that most other years are shored up nicely enough to make good lists, and even if 2005 isn't my favorite year, it did get some titles off my to see list that were on there for a long time: The New World, Memoirs of a Geisha, Proof, and The White Countess. {By the way, I love The Fisher King. Moved me tremendously when I saw it}
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Currently running around the land of the year 2005... I had started a retrospective of my 20 favorite films of each year (3 years a day for a month) on another website, starting in the present and going back (because most of the thinner years are up front in the present and I wanted to work back to the periods I was most confident in). Well, 2005 was super thin and embarassing so I'm in a rush to fill it out with better films by the time its due on Sunday.
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Of course though this doesn't always work out. Olivia De Havilland's return to WB was .... The Swarm.
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Alice Faye. leaves Fox in 1945 after Fallen Angel doesn't get a warm reception. Appears for them again to finish her contract in State Fair in 1962.
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Since I have a cable subscription to HBO via Spectrum, I got to become part of the new platform today. (HBO Max) I made a beeline for the TCM section and its mostly the usual suspects, plus some Underground titles that are often seen on TCM. I'll look some more at the other sections.
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On 5/18/2020 at 6:06 AM, sewhite2000 said:
Ha ha ha, I guess Samuel L. Jackson has been in too many PG-13 Avengers movies. They've brought down his average.
Inside the article, they wrote this on the Swearing stakes......
QuoteAccording to the study, Hill has spewed 376 swear words throughout his career, barely beating his “Wolf of Wall Street” co-star Leonardo DiCaprio, who has amassed 361 curses. The rest of the list includes Samuel L. Jackson, Adam Sandler, Al Pacino, Denzel Washington, Billy Bob Thornton, Seth Rogen, Bradley Cooper and Danny McBride.
So, Jackson is still on there. Mind you though, they only analyzed the script of 3500 films, so maybe they missed some hard swearing films out there. And is's kind of subjective really when Adam Sandler is on that list and that is due in large part to last year's Uncut Gems, one of the films with one of cinema history's highest strong language counts. Sandler only appeared in starring parts in 5 other Rs: Bulletproof, Punch-Drunk Love, Reign Over Me, Funny People, and Men, Women, and Children.
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Just now, LornaHansonForbes said:
GREAT NOW IM GONNA HAVE THAT STUCK IN MY HEAD FOR A WHILE!
I know what you mean. Now I have that line "I Recall Central Park in Fall" running around.....
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1 minute ago, TomJH said:
Amazing how people can see the same film and come away with different impressions. I found Fedora disappointing, especially considering the talent involved. It's a challenge for me to get into a film when I don't care about any of the characters.
Yes, entirely different responses to the same material. I found it very involving and heartbreaking. Plus, it kind of feels like one of the last codas to classic Hollywood. I can see where it was truly personal material for Billy Wilder. In some ways it is a direct followup to Sunset Boulevard, but with a slight change in perspective. In 1950, Wilder was closer to the viewpoint of Joe Gillis and it saw the madness in Norma Desmond; this one was 28 years later, and William Holden's back again too, but now he and Wilder have been largely cast aside (even despite Holden's Oscar-nominated part in Network), so now they know how someone like Norma must feel. That drives up the empathy factor.
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On 5/25/2020 at 1:00 AM, Hibi said:
She starred in another version of the story in Billy Wilder's Fedora...
That she did, and I thought that film was wonderful. Criminally neglected to boot.
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On 5/23/2020 at 2:47 PM, LornaHansonForbes said:
THE COMPANY OF WOLVES (1984)- an (I think) Irish film...at least it was directed by NEIL JORDAN
It was backed by the English, but yes indeed Neil Jordan is Irish. His has been an unpredictable career ranging from this, to the London grime of Mona Lisa, to the many switches in The Crying Game, through biopic territory in Michael Collins, and through moody Graham Greene territory in The End of the Affair. I saw his most recent film this past week, the 2018 thriller Greta. That's really something. It's like someone took one of the "yuppie nightmare" films of the late 80s/early 90s (Single White Female, Pacific Heights, etc.) and combined it with the Psycho-biddy genre of the 60s (Baby Jane, Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte, etc.) More than a bit predictable, but as a thriller it worked because it wasn't afraid to send itself up, leaning over frequently to full camp territory. France's Isabelle Huppert was the psycho, and she played it to the over-the-top hilt.
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Wouldn't it be true of many thrillers where the bad guy was killed?
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i thought the film was a pretty pallid retread of Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy. Dark yes, but since we all know the Joker becomes a nefarious villain, al;l that is left in the film is waiting for the other shoe to fall.
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And maybe it was just me, but bad German dubbing aside, I really think that Kim Novak's work in the film is pretty good, or at least better than one would expect.
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20 hours ago, Hibi said:
The Oscar at least is somewhat campy. (I remember Jill St. John's cat dance. LOL) Too bad it's Paramount. Dont think TCM has aired it in many years...
It aired a few years ago, in 2013, during Eleanor Parker's time as SOTM. I remember because I thought the film was so unpalatable, I abandoned it. And this is coming from someone who saw all of Lylah Clare......
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Arguably though, even if Temple of Doom was the moment at which they decided they needed a new rating (thanks in large part of Steven Spielberg suggesting it), there had been some controversy surrounding the PG rating in the early 80s. This surrounded films like Never Cry Wolf, Splash, Sixteen Candles, Streets of Fire, Reds, Terms of Endearment, etc.
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37 minutes ago, Hibi said:
I've always wondered if her German clone voice was dubbed or that was really Kim....
It was dubbed. I believe Novak herself said that at some point.
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3 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
TCM doesn't show made for T.V. movies or T.V. series.
There are enough films for a tribute:
Sunday in New York
Rhino
Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice
Hannie Caulder
Hickey & Boggs
A Name for Evil
The Castaway Cowboy
Sky Riders
Breaking Point
Plus PT 109, The Great Scout and Cathouse Thursday, Turk 182, and The Pelican Brief......
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On 3/19/2020 at 10:54 PM, Sukhov said:
A&E used to be a fine arts channel, AMC was a classic movie place and TLC was the Learning Channel. TV ratings are about lowest common denominator.
For all of the occasional "TCM is going downhill" posts, it is one of the few channels on TV to keep their original identity intact. And it has done so successfully.
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Yes., it's a small part in her for Les Miserables. She gets the doomed supporting part of Fantine, a showy part though.