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So, Fred, I'm curious, in your opinion, which of the video versions of GWTW do you think comes closest to what the movie looked like in theater screens in 1939?
I wonder about that too
Very interesting and informative posts, everyone-makes me realise the difference between a fan (me, LOL) and an aficianado!
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Academy ratio? What is that? I am lost when y'all start talking technical movie talk, LOL, but that one sounds interesting!
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Nope, not going to watch, haven't seen any awards shows in years. I never really did watch, just random glimpses while surfing around, but never just intentionally set out to watch. Formerly, it was just that I wasn't usually very interested, now it's both that and that I wouldn't watch on principle. Awards shows, for my taste, have become cheapened anyway, thanks to MTV awards, VHI awards, etc. They're meaningless. But I wouldn't be interested anyway, all the movies I care about or watch (with maybe 11 exceptions) were all made well before my time.
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True, subtlety in most things is an under-rated and unappreciated quality these days, and integrity is often considered a weakness, if not down-right foolishness. People are so afraid of others mistaking "kindness for weakness"-the ultimate sin nowadays is to be considered weak, not to be considered unkind.
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I also believe that Melanie did know how Scarlett and Ashley felt about each other, but she was wise enough to know that it would never be a threat to her, and that it wasn't really love on either of their parts. She knew that for many reasons Ashley would never leave her(one reason being that she knew that he truly loved her better than he knew), and she was generous in realising just what Scarlett had really done for her, and that Scarlett would never be able to take Ashley, judging from the help(if grudging) that Scarlett always gave to her. Scarlett had a stronger sense of duty than she herself realised.
Also, I think that she subconsciously operated on the principle "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer", although she didn't consider Scarlett either an enemy or a threat. I think that Melanie knew better than either Scarlett or Ashley that Ashley really loved her, and that Scarlett's and Ashley's feelings for each other were based on lust. She certainly recognised that Rhett loved Scarlett before anyone else did.
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Thanks lzcutter, and you even anticipated my question-what print are we seeing?-before I asked
I have a DVD set of GWTW, but it's not the special set-I need to get that one. Which do you consider the truest to the original release(not to David Selznick's later ideas, but to the original release)?My goodness, you are knowledgeable on the film technology! And now that you mention it, I do remember your post from last year on this.
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Of course, those principles had never gone very deep with Scarlett in the first place. She understood the forms well enough, but she had never understood the substance behind the forms of ladylike behavior. Rhett had her number right from the start-the war simply brought out Scarlett's qualities more than would have been even remotely acceptable before the war.
Not that I'm denigrating Scarlett, but it always seems to me that Melanie took the higher, if harder, road. Melanie and Ashley (and Rhett, for that matter) were all insightful enough to realise just what was being lost (in melanie's case, would be lost, if the women didn't hold the line). They all dealt with that fact in different ways, but they all could see it. Scarlett really couldn't, she never realised that the glamor and graciousness of their former life was built on more than just style. She was kind of plebeian in that sense-the book makes it more clear, the difference between Gerald O'Hara, and Scarlett, and the southern aristocrats, such as her mother Ellen, and the Hamiltons and Wilkses.
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Hi Larry
Exactly-the book makes it even more clear that others, especially after the war, turned to Melanie because they recognised both her integrity and her humanity. Survival is difficult enough even when you jettison your ideals and principles, it's even more difficult when you don't. Melanie never compromised, but she always had the milk of human kindness to temper her uncompromising principles. Even Scarlett, in one of her introspective moments, realised that she regretted having compromised on many things, and that she wasn't the great lady, the true lady, that her mother had been. Melanie stood firm. -
I love the music in this movie! I especially love the harp and organ in the intermission music, and the old songs-I love "Beautiful Dreamer" and "Swanee River". The music is so gentle and evocative.
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I do think that the color filming in GWTW is a marvel, especially when compared to the garishness of some Technicolor films done in the Fifties. (I like that garishness in a couple of them, it "suits", but not in all of them). I wonder if GWTW was originally filmed this way, or if the print has faded? It doesn't seem like a mere faded version, the color is still vibrant, but it's got light and shade, instead of just full-on in-your-face color. I love the olive-green and brown tones in some of the scenes.
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Thank you, and you can call me Melanie, it's really my name, and DPD is a mouthful
(So you se, I have a stake in seeing that the GWTW Melanie gets her just due, LOL-I was named for her by my daddy).I am in no wise well-versed in film technology, but lzcutter is, and I also would be interested in the answers to your questions.
I can say, that in my opinion, GWTW is the kind of epic film that really needed to be filmed in color. I don't feel that way about just any movie-Casablanca is quite suited to B&W, and I love B&W films. But GWTW really needed to be filmed in color, in my opinion, and I am grateful that it was, however it came to pass!
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She was undoubtedly a force to be reckoned with in all her scenes
One of my most favorite "debates" re: GWTW is the question of Melanie Hamilton Wilkes. So many people dismiss her as being weak compared to Scarlett, and I love to argue that she had a deep and quiet courage, a consistent unyielding inner strength, that Scarlett lacked. It always rather surprises me that people can watch this movie (or read the book) and come away with the impression that Melanie was weak. Her style of courage was subtlety, not bravado, but it was certainly present.
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I think she's wonderful as Mammy, but she doesn't quite steal the movie, to me. But it certainly woudn't be the GWTW I love without her in it
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Thank you
I never miss a viewing of GWTW, and in spite of my resolution, I couldn't bear to not share the experience with my fellow classic movie fans -
Well, one of my all-time favorite movies-Gone With The Wind-is on again, in all its ante-bellum glory. I adore this movie-the lush music, the gorgeous settings, the characterisations, the costumes, the story, the actors, everything. It deserved every Oscar it won and more. Its one of those movies I can watch over and over and never tire of. Clark Gable was born to play Rhett Butler, and I may be one of the few who thinks that Leslie Howard made a wonderful Ashley Wilkes. The perfection of Vivien Leigh as Scarlett O'Hara goes without saying, and Olivia DeHavilland as Melanie Hamilton is a perfect fit. I love her interpretation of Melanie. This movie, in my opinion, deserves every accolade and honor it has received, and is truly a classic.
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Here's Himself,out of costume
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The Little Tramp---Charlie Chaplin
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Ay caramba! Rita's giving me the air tonight! Let's try this once more with feeling----
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Ring! Ring!
Lana Turner
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"So you can out the blame on Mame,boys,put the blame on Mame"
Rita Hayworth
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Barbara Stanwyck--"Take it off the E string,play it on the G-string"
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Sean Connery,the James Bond
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Daniela Bianchi(Tatiana Romanova in "From Russia With Love",the best James Bond film ever
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Billie Burke
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I could name more than 5, depending on when I think about it, but there are a few constants-please to remember that this is just my own personal tatse, and not a slight at anyone's favorites-you probably wouldn't like all my favorites either
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in no particular order--
1)Jerry Lewis
2) Robin Williams
3)Jim Carrey
4)The Three Stooges
5)Alan Alda
OK, I have to make it 6--
6) Woody Allen
It occurs to me that many of the actors who most annoy me are unrestrained comedian types-something about that style of humor just sets my teeth on edge! And so do sensitive beta-male types, found in so many 70's movies-I love ballet movies which are few and far between. I just watched "The Turning Point" starring Mikhail Baryshnikov and Leslie Browne (I'll just let Shirley MacLaine slide, looney agressive New Age types annoy me also, and I just want to howl at Anne Bancroft trying to play a ballet dancer, the lumbering, though beautiful, Greta Garbo did a better job of it in "Grand Hotel")-and besides the afore-mentioned annoyances, Tom Skerrit as Squirrely's sensitive husband made me want to slap him. For goodness' sake, he does everything but hold her purse for her when Squirrely cheats on him in this movie.
Didn't mean to offend anyone, just sharing my opinion. You're welcome to rag on my favorites, I'll still like 'em