harlowkeatongirl
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I agree. Awards are fine, but when it comes right down to it, it's just a paid opinion -- no better than yours or mine.
> Classics, there is no correlation between a
> performer's acting talents and awards. Most awards
> shows, particularly the Academy Awards, are run by
> the studios FOR the studios. It's all politics and
> has nothing to do with pure talent or ability. But
> if you choose to believe the hyperbole, that's fine.
> I choose not to. No award validates anything for me.
> The landscape is filled with far too many superior
> r performances and films that went unheralded.
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> With regards to Gary Cooper, no, I don't think he was
> much of an actor. He had great screen presence, i.e.
> good "star" material and I enjoy watching him in
> movies, but like many others, John Wayne, Arnold
> Schwarzenegger, et al., they are larger than life,
> but not necessarily taleted thespians. That's the
> beauty of film as opposed to stage: You don't have to
> know how to act if the camera likes you.
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The Sultenfuss Parlor in My Girl
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Well my family, now that there are no little kids around, don't have any Easter tradition other than a nice ham dinner, but I think this year I might watch "The Ten Commandments" for the first time.
As hard as it might be to believe, I haven't watched it yet. -
Cripes we're getting so busy at work I don't even have time for a morning break anymore.
And ohkay, Classicsfan..
I can see what you're saying.
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Good question!
And welcome to the board BTW. Silent films. There was a time I couldn't stand them. Now I love them.
They transport me, personally, to a different place. A time when entertainment was simpler and it took only realness and simplicity to entertain an audience. Slapstick.. or other kinds of comedy, combined with a happy musical score is a lot of fun to watch. And I don't want to disclude the dramas, either, there were some great dramas. Horror movies, too.
I think silent actors are some of the best actors. They couldn't rely on their voices to elevate the emotion. They had to do it ALL with body language and facial expression.
That's not to say dialogue is overrated or anything. Dialogue is very hard and I admire anyone who can do it well. But sometimes, a person can read lines really well, but nothing is going on in their faces or their bodies. Silents demanded that.
As you can tell from my name, my favorite silent star is Buster Keaton a.k.a. The Master. (hee hee) Although that has been widely disputed more than once! But that's the fun of it. Everyone's got different tastes.
...But they don't know what they're missin.
http://www.geocities.com/~oldbrit/bkdress.JPG
Ohh yeeeah, baby.
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Oh and "Sadistic" and "Charming" aren't words I'd use to describe DeMille. I was taking directly from the special.
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Well, everyone has their own idea of perfection. God bless perfectionists such as Charlie Chaplin and Cecil B. DeMille for the art they left us with. It is excellent insight into their vision. But what's one person's idea of perfection isn't everyone's.
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Piccie time:
http://home.earthlink.net/~busterktn/images/gen-tie2.jpg
This picture freaks me out, because it was a great scene, but... watching it from a perspective of how movies are made today, with little to no actual life-threatening danger, I watched the scene and thought "Haha, that's cool." But then the reality hit me.... he had to take that long piece of wood and throw it onto the tracks in order to knock another piece of wood off. His timing AND aim had to be PERFECT. If it wasn't, the train probably would've derailed... with him right on the front. And he knew that! But you don't see it in his face when he does this stuff at all. He just went for it.
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I think is directing style is wonderful. I bet everyone ever directed by him took every great lesson of his with them to all the rest of their sets after that.
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Well the first celebrity crushes I can remember from childhood are Davy Jones and David Bowie.
Davy was because "The Monkees" began airing re-runs every afternoon on basic cable and Bowie, because I saw the movie Labyrinth. *sizzle* I have no shame about it, though, I still think they're hotties. LOL
Right now though, I admittedly have a crush on someone who is 85 years older than me. His name is Joseph Frank Keaton.
But.. freakiness loves company... and another member of this board freely admitted to me her crush on a star of about the same age difference. (Don't know if I'm supposed to mention who or not, so I won't.
) So in that case, I don't feel too weird about my crush. LOL!
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Thoughts, from whoever watched the Cecil B. DeMille specials Monday and Wednesday?
I think he was a damn fine director and seemed to be a very good man. I think the intimidating persona was for the studio only.
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Absolutely Verdell from As Good As It Gets.
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This isn't a classic but I like the one in Dumb and Dumber where the nerdy guy in thick-rimmed glasses is trying to get Mental off the phone and he turns around and smiles with a "What? I can't hear you, can you come closer?" motion... and so the nerdy guy gets up closer to the glass, and that's when Mental hauls off and punches him, putting his hand through the glass and knocking him out.
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Interesting question. Today I would be Clea DuVall. I would've loved to have been Jean Harlow, except for her health problems at the end of her life and her domineering mother.
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That's awesome. I love when old buildings and old landmarks are preserved in those ways. Some intentional, and some completely unintentional, just like that. Imagine how grand the country would be if the entire country had the mindset of preservation rather than "out with the old, in with the new." Many streets of many towns would be as immaculate as some well-preserved streets of NYC.
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I'm glad to see so many people my age, and even younger, along with the older people.
I figured I'd be one of the lone whippersnappers of the bunch. *teehee* -
... over a book that was never published.
In the special "Chaplin Today: Limelight" they mentioned how Limelight was originally intended by Charlie Chaplin to be a novel called Footlights. And they even zoomed in on the first page of the manuscript. I paused the tape and read what little was visible of the first paragraph and I'm already hooked. When they cut away I was like "Hey, I wanna read that!"
Since Limelight didn't meet the highest expectation as a film, I think it would be huge as a novel today. Seriously, if someone from his family were to get it published as a posthumous novel by Charlie Chaplin, I think people would by it, just for that reason, before actually reading firsthand how good it is. I actually think it would've worked a lot better as a book. If the first few lines can hook me, imagine what the rest of the story must've read like on paper.
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I'm 24 years old. And I know Carley (Littletramplover) is about the same age. The oldest movie I can remember seeing on the big screen is "E.T."
But I watch very few modern movies. Once in a while one will look interesting enough to catch my eye and I'll go see it, and that's usually only because there's an actor or actress in it that I really like. For example, I probably would've never went to see "Gothika" but Robert Downey Jr. is one of my favorites. More often than not, though a good Jean Harlow movie or a good old silent is enough to make me happy for a couple hours.
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I agree with "The Big Chill," it's classic. There are few better marriages between film and music. Another favorite is from "Mr. Holland's Opus." GREAT songs. "Cole's Song," "Visions Of A Sunset," "The Pretender," "I Got A Woman,"...
"An American Symphony" is my song, definitely.
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The one in "The Birds" is great! And intense for 1963, watching a guy get insinerated before our eyes... but my favorite scenes are two funnier ones: Two scenes in "Tommy Boy" --- one where he's being sprayed off with the hose and Tommy's running in place singing "I'm a maniac, maniac on the floor..."
And then where he's at the station w/Richard and tries to back up closer to the pump and takes off the door.And then there's that gas station scene in "The Jerk."
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> As always, I love talking to you and I hope you are
> having a relatively alcohol-free good time this
> Friday night, as opposed to last week. LOL. So what
> do you think about joining our chat group?
Tsk tsk, Carley...
Where is this chat room located? I'd love to chat sometime!
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As for Charlie's relationships with women... that's another thread, I agree.
There's no telling why some people have a hard time settling down with one partner or why they go for someone so much younger than themselves. And you have to remember, at one time, it was a lot more acceptable for girls of 15 and 16 to court and marry than it is today... although it's still happens all the time today. (More lack of morals today, probably.) But Buster's last wife, Eleanor of 26 years, was 24 years younger than him. Who knows why people are drawn towards each other. A lot of Charlie's relations w/women could've had to do w/a lack of a mother earlier? Who knows. That's a Dr. Phil thing. lol> Awesomely said, Carley.
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> I have to agree with those old sayings of "art
> imitiates life" and vice versa.
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> That's where art comes from. If you're not taking
> from your own experience, you take from what
> surrounds you. But different people interpret art
> different ways. For people like Carley and I, art is
> more enjoyable when you understand it's origins and
> what inspired it. For others, like Professorecho,
> it's not relevant where it comes from. They just
> prefer to take it at face value and enjoy what it is
> based on their personal impressions and what it does
> for them.
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> It's kind of the same principal of how some people
> are really interested in reading rock and roll
> biographies and other people could care less and just
> prefer to hear the music. But some of us like to
> know where it comes from and there's nothing wrong
> w/that, either.
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> > While all the backstage speculating and gossip
> might
> > be fun for some, I think it's important to judge
> > what's on the screen without a primer on anyone's
> > life or loves, or lack of same thereof.
> Understanding
> > the artist is not the same and understanding or
> > appreciating the ART. Thereza's attraction to
> > Calvero doesn't seem so ingenuous when one applies
> > Chaplin's real life attempts to control all his
> > younger mates, making love to a 15 year old and
> such.
> > It's rather distasteful to me in that context, but
> I
> > simply choose to ignore that and enjoy the
> > relationship as it is reflected in the film
> itself,
> > not in Chaplin's May/December predilections off
> the
> > screen.
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Awesomely said, Carley.
I have to agree with those old sayings of "art imitiates life" and vice versa.
That's where art comes from. If you're not taking from your own experience, you take from what surrounds you. But different people interpret art different ways. For people like Carley and I, art is more enjoyable when you understand it's origins and what inspired it. For others, like Professorecho, it's not relevant where it comes from. They just prefer to take it at face value and enjoy what it is based on their personal impressions and what it does for them.
It's kind of the same principal of how some people are really interested in reading rock and roll biographies and other people could care less and just prefer to hear the music. But some of us like to know where it comes from and there's nothing wrong w/that, either.
> While all the backstage speculating and gossip might
> be fun for some, I think it's important to judge
> what's on the screen without a primer on anyone's
> life or loves, or lack of same thereof. Understanding
> the artist is not the same and understanding or
> appreciating the ART. Thereza's attraction to
> Calvero doesn't seem so ingenuous when one applies
> Chaplin's real life attempts to control all his
> younger mates, making love to a 15 year old and such.
> It's rather distasteful to me in that context, but I
> simply choose to ignore that and enjoy the
> relationship as it is reflected in the film itself,
> not in Chaplin's May/December predilections off the
> screen.
. It's seriously an awesome house. Too nice for a funeral home! 
For All You Young People Out There
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I agree w/that Busterchaney.... that the art speaks to different people in different ways. It's great to take advice from others on what's good, it's more important to not be influenced by the opinions of other people and decide for yourself who/what you prefer and what speaks to you personally. That's what's important. Not numbers, not majority.
And don't let others make you feel weird or bad about who you like, either!
If I listened to everyone else, I'd be following form and saying I prefer Johnny Depp and Halle Berry over Buster Keaton and Marie Dressler.
Not a chance.