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My grandmother "produced" that show for Joan Davis, whom she loved. Nooooooooo. How very cool. Where's that book, Larry? Speaking of which, I guess we have lost Keenan Wynn's son for good from this board? What a shame. I loved that show, way back when cable was really cable and one of the channels SHOWED gems like I Married Joan and The Molly Goldberg Show. Look how far they've come...not. But I liked Joan Davis immediately. I found her as talented and funny as Lucille Ball, and always wondered why her show didn't get as far. She also didn't do the requisite waaaaaaaaa that was necessary for the MCPs of the time. Joan, if I am recalling correctly, was ahead of her time in her feminism wasn't she? Dagnabbit, Larry, I SURE would have liked to meet your grandmother!

Covering Warren's ears: Robert Ryan in his film noir roles can butter my bread anytime! Hubba, hubba.

Robert RYAN doesn't have a star on Hollywood Boulevard????? But Ryan Seacrest does. Oh yeah, no payola there. Let me guess, Sterling Hayden doesn't either? By the way, someone get me an ice cube...even WITH the pants up to THERE, Ryan (ROBERT OF COURSE) is some kinda hotsy totsy. :)

jdb1, did Janet Waldo do any famous voices? That was the episode with a verrrry young Dick Crenna, right? I can hear Desi say that line: keep yigglin', Peggy. Good show. Ah, thanks Larry! Good to hear it, I liked her. Then the story I read somewhere must be true (or at least I hope it is) -- that she used to lie naked atop her piano during dinner parties. I also read she did not discriminate when it came to 'romance'. A woman ahead of her time.

Yes, I forgot about Manon of the Spring! Beautiful stuff, those. Oh I don't know, you reply fairly well to questions directed at ye, Rusty --

Rusty! You cut me to the quick! Have I not responded to your quite intelligent posts? I thought I had. Yes, the ending of Cinema Paradiso is brilliant. If you like CP, you will like Jean De Florette.

I like The Big Sleep too, only in a different way. To me, The Big Sleep is a really, really good 'little' picture, whereas Casablanca was, like Wizard Of Oz....BIG!!! BIG!!!! to me, mind you. It made a lifelong impression on my brain, and as I said, after having TCM for two years and seeing many, many movies, I still have not seen one that tops either Casablanca or Wizard Of Oz for total perfection and satisfaction. Heck, I still get all choked up when everyone starts singing 'La Marseillaise'. As to Maltese Falcon, I still confess that I have yet to follow that movie, easily, all the way through. But I love it, nonetheless, for the cast and the silver and the curtains and the mood.

Wow, did she? Good for Kate, she was spot on. I especially hate when Meryl does her 'beeg trouble for moose and squirrel' accent. Drives me almost as nutty as the few seconds I caught of Nick Nolte doing Eyetalian in Lorenzo's Oil. ACK!!!!!!! :0 As least with Nolte, he redeemed himself a million times over with Affliction and another movie where he played a cop who was killed, can't remember the name. To me, Streep is a scenery chewing hack.

Good point, movielover11. I had forgotten about this film, I liked it so much better than, say, Giant. I do think he would have been a very, very good actor if he had the chance. What a shame. Oh, and the book is amazing as well. Steinbeck is wonderful.

Kubrickbuff, not to hijack this thread but a question? I had never ever understood 2001 until I read a verrrrry detailed analysis at a web site whose url I can't find right now. However, long story short, was the entire point of the film that Dave was THE chosen one by a more intelligent life form to continue the human species on another planet after earth destroyed itself? I realize Arthur Clarke would probably like to slap me upside the head for that sentence, but is that what the movie was all about, in a nutshell? I too loved it from beginning to end (oh and I hated 2010) but it was my Maltese Falcon, updated. I just did.not.get.it.

scarlett, you hit the nail on the head, for those that love it, that is. Casablanca was the dramatic Wizard Of Oz, there just wasn't anything wrong with it -- to those of us who loved it. The ensemble was perfect -- imagine IF the casting had been different? Were the media gods looking down upon us or what, imagine Shirley Temple as Dorothy? Blech. But Casablanca had it all just as Wizard of Oz did, the music, the sets, the cast, the dialogue, the storyline AND the moral at the end. Which of course I didn't agree with, in Casablanca. Imagine giving up boring as a brick Lazlo for sexy as all hell Rick but hey then again Ingrid's kiss was no Bacall kiss! Just being silly, I loved Casablanca and always will, just as I will always love Wizard Of Oz. Hmmmm, I can't think of a perfect comedy right at this minute. And, since I don't like most musicals, I can't think of a perfect musical either. Oh well, fodder for another post. Oh, but yes (haven't seen it in a long time) I remember liking Brigadoon a lot. But it was in color, right?

Good question. John Wayne annoys the hell out of me and in my opinion, except for Stagecoach, I have not had the stomach to watch one other movie of his. I don't like his rug, I don't like his physique, nor his bowlegged walk, nor his line delivery. In toto, there is just nothing about him I can take, and I find it interesting that so many people like him and can actually watch a movie with him in it. However, with Brando I don't have the exact same antipathy. With Brando, I can watch The Godfather over and over and realize what an excellent performance he gave. In addition, I found his self-deprecating mockery in The Freshman to be delightful. I can't watch Apocalypse Now because I know the steer was slaughtered on camera (yes, it was) and that movie is damned to my personal hell. However, I think he gave a good performance in that, although he was veering towards his bloated, self-important, look at me I'm an actor persona. That's what I think I dislike about Brando, he seems to have taken himself waaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously in his early days and in some of his latter films as well. To believe the girl in Last Tango In Paris would go to bed with that whale is suspension of belief that only an ice pick to the brain would conceivably bring about. Of course, it wasn't completely his fault. Hollyweird no doubt put him on some sort of pedestal because he was so bankable. He just believed, imo erroneously, in his press. But yes, he was good in On The Waterfront but so was Rod Steiger amazing. Blanche just **** me off in Streetcar, so I can't watch that one again either. And that, as they say, is my two cents.

You know, I bet the question has, but the responses from the new people are interesting. Dana Andrews??? Wow, I loved him in Laura, there WOULD be no Laura for me without Dana Andrews (and of course the gorgeous Gene and amazing Clifton). Now, I can't say any other movies with him in them come to mind, but like Judy Garland whom I can't stand outside of WofOz, Laura IS Dana Andrews and Dana IS Laura! My nails on the blackboard actors: John Wayne, Clark Gable, Gary Cooper, Bette Davis (whom I used to appreciate a LOT more before I had TCM), Joan Crawford, and the king of all NonBB -- Marlon Brando. I'm sure there are others, but they're not coming to mind right now.

I agree, Hollis. Even with ALL the films I've seen on TCM from 2004-2006, The Wizard Of Oz remains my very favorite film of all time. Following are my reasons, and I am not a student of film, so these are all emotional! To me, it is timeless and its message touches everyone. The novel was good but it soared above the novel in perfection. The ensemble acted as one, with just enough standout performances that did not disrupt the harmony of the whole. The screenplay produced countless memorable lines. The sets were amazing and even by today's standards, were, well, amazing. The music was without compare, and of course Over The Rainbow (even done by the late Israel Kamakawiwo'ole) brings tears to my eyes. Many of the movies were 1939 were favorites of mine, but The Wizard Of Oz will always be at the top of my list. Also striking is that now, more than ever, the movie's message 'there's no place like home' is so important to everyone.

Guess a lot of us got Bugged-out" as kids! Guilty as charged! In addition to getting just about all (okay, all) my classical music appreciation from Bugs -- who can forget Elmer as conductor or the Strauss waltz with the swan and duckling (remember when the shadow banged into the rock?) -- I first heard the song 'wrong, would it be wrong to love?' not from Now Voyager, but from Bugs, singing it at the bottom of the ocean dressed as a mermaid to deflect Elmer Fudd from hunting him! Bizarre? Oh yes. I think I heard the lyrics 'Hut Sut Rawlson on the Rillarah and the Bralla Bralla Suet' on Bugs for the first time, and I know 'The Five O'Clock Whistle' is from the Red Riding Hood Bugs cartoon. And Seinfeld included the 'Overture' song in one of his episodes, so we who refuse to grow up are not alone.

mrsl, you have to hear it as voiced by Mel Blanc for Bugs though. It takes on a special life all its own. You mean you haven't seen the Red Riding Hood Bugs Bunny!!?? Oh, speaking of inflection and woids........it's a must see. On a talking head cable show last week was the guy who does, among other voices, both Ren and Stimpy. He also does (as do other guys, it's no longer a one-man voice) Bugs in commercials and movies. He's not bad, but he's no Mel Blanc. It was great fun to see the people behind the voices -- I didn't know the kid in King Of The Hill was a woman. Gremlins! That's another Bugs you have to see, mrsl. Ah, what fun it was growing up in the 1950s......

Some of my favorites come from Bugs Bunny -- 'what a maroon!' and the like. Others come from W.C.Fields and his clever way of getting expletives past the pin-headed censors -- Godfrey Daniel and the like.

Golden Age? The Wizard Of Oz. New-ish? The Godfather, parts one and two.

Hi Hollis....funny you happened upon a topic from 2005 that is still timely! My favorite Bogey role is The Big Sleep. As has been noted, his very early performances always ended up with him being rubbed out, until the PTB found out that he (and Cagney) were bankable. I am sure he had as much fun being picked for the romantic lead as we did watching him pull it off. A near-homely, slight of body schlub getting the girl, among them Lauren Bacall and the achingly pretty Ingrid Bergman! That's what I loved about Bogey and Cagney as compared to Cooper and Brando and even, blech, Wayne. Both Cagney and Bogart seemed to KNOW they weren't pretty and played it up for all it was worth. They early on knew they had to develop their talent, like Garfield and Muni, and so could out-act Wayne and Cooper and the other pretty boys with both hands tied behind their backs. Loved them both, so it's a tie with me as to who is the best and the sexiest and the most talented. I would have to say that Cagney was more an all-around actor (like Grant), as witness his dancing, but Bogey could wow 'em with the best of them. Given that, my beloved Warren William couldn't do any of the above, but as far as I am concerned, he didn't have to. He could just read the Yellow Pages and that was all she wrote.

I did, movielover11, a fun thread. Yes, you know all those pictures of Brando and Cooper and Gable? They leave me colder than a refrigerated mackerel. Whereas the little upturned smirk from Robert Montgomery or of course Warren William (even with his stereotyped persona in most of his movies) turn me into a puddle of goo. Funny how that is, isn't it? Of course there are those who liked Cooper and Gable and Brando and Taylor and Dietrich and Garbo and there are those who didn't. That's what is fun about this place, finding out who made which posters go gah-gah!

Great questions! 1. give you a kiss on the back of the neck?......Bela Lugosi, but only in 1931 and Warren William from 1920 on........ 2. NOT like...give you a kiss on the back of the neck?.....it would turn me into a block of ice........Gregory Peck. brrrrrrrr. 3. the best physique?........none really, I didn't like the silly 'shirts off no chest hair pants up to their armpits' physiques...Victor McLaughlin perhaps? 4. needed deodorant and a tube of toothpaste?.....hmmmm, not sure on this one. 5. Which classic actor had the most distinctive voice?......Eugene Pallette. 6. Which classic actor would you like to be cast in a movie with?...drumroll...Warren William. 7. Which classic actor was the most unattractive?....a tie -- Marlon Brando/John Wayne. 8. Which classic actor do you immediatly switch to another channel because you can't stand to watch his films?.....no contest, John Wayne, pilgrim. 9. Which classic actor would you most like to snuggle with during a blizzard?....Warren William. 10. Which classic actor was most overated?.....Marlon Brando, Marlon Brando, Marlon Brando.

You would like Ann Harding, Hollis. Make an especial note to see her next time one of her movies is on. Yes, that's Lizabeth and in case you didn't read here, she is still with us and someone (I'm sorry I've forgotten who!) here had a friend convey my immense appreciation to her for her work in the Golden Age (according to me, anyway) of movies. Isn't that cool? Yes, I'm a she. I have taken to not signing my name anymore, but it's dolores. I took 'stoneyburke' because as a yout I had a crush on Jack Lord in Stoney Burke and later in Hawaii Five-O. I had an even bigger crush on Robert Fuller of Laramie fame, but he didn't have a name I liked. Thanks, Hollis. I enjoy your posts as well.

Since you ask, here is my list. Since I no longer have TCM, there isn't much of a chance that I WILL see them, either, before 2009, when the government forces me to get digital television. Add to these whatever Warren William films are being shown in March: (gee, maybe Cablevision has a conscience and will feel badly that they kidnapped TCM from me and will restore it to me for the current exorbitant price they are charging me for 57 channels, out of which I only watch 6.......yeah, right. I hope there is a special place in hell for Cablevision.) Bedside Black angel Condemned Day of Wrath Day Time Wife Dead Reckoning Deep Valley Desert Fury Devotion Enchanted April Force of evil Fugitive Lovers Hard To Handle Her Private Affair Holiday House across the bay I Sell Anything I Walk Alone Johnny O'Clock Laura Leave Her to Heaven Love From A Stranger Macao Made On Broadway Make Way For Tomorrow Merrily We Live Mr. Peabody and the Mermaid Murder Will Out Night After Night Night and the City Night of the Hunter Nightmare Alley On Dangerous Ground Panic in the Streets Peter Ibbetson Pickup on South Street Road House The Benson Murder Case The Canary Murder Case The Dark Corner The Dark Horse The Girl Hunters The Good Fairy The Gracie Allen Murder Case The Greene Murder Case The Killers The Kiss of Death The Match King The Mouthpiece The Reckless Hour The Verdict The Young In Heart Tomorrow Is Forever Too late for tears Under Eighteen Upperworld Wages of Fear When Ladies Meet Woman in White Secrets of the French Police

Hollis, are you familiar with Ann Harding? She, like Warren William, was an actor I discovered thanks to TCM, and I found her amazing. Just amazing. Gorgeous, a wonderful actress, and gone too soon from the acting profession. Oh and how about Lizabeth Scott. Do you like her? Isn't TCM wonderful? As to my personal favorites, I thought Carole Lombard and Ingrid Bergman were drop dead gorgeous. By the same token, I thought Edna May Oliver was a standout actress. I can just IMAGINE how tough it was in the Golden Age, when there were SOOOOO many beautiful actresses and chorus girls and ingenues and wannabees, and still to persevere with a mug like Edna May's, and STILL make a mark on cinematic history. I give her, and all the other 'not so gorgeous' dames a great deal of credit.

Thanks, Larry. Tallulah is another of my favorites. A gutsy (rather than use another word) woman, I betcha? Carole Lombard, only less pretty. Say, I don't think we've seen Tallulah here! Was she a 'star'? Anne, I am sorry to say I've only been inside one apartment in NY (there are others who live there though, I believe) and it was huge. I've been in many an industrial building when I worked there, and like everywhere else in the NY suburbs, I would not be surprised if many of those buildings are now apartments. The views of other rooftops and the skyline used to thrill me to no end. In the last building I worked (sadly, quite close to the World Trade Towers), I was on the 36th floor and had an AMAZING view of the gargoyles and architecture that is at the very peak of those drop dead gorgeous early 20th century buildings. As to apartments, I've never seen the likes of the one, say, in Impact. What DID he do for a living, that she got to live in an apt. like that and have a personal maid to boot! As to small ones, I can well imagine there are many like that. 600 square feet would command quite a high price in Manhattan today, unless I am mistaken. The most amusing vision of apt. affordability was Marlo Thomas's That Girl. Her very first apartment was, of course, huge and she had a doorman. The show was recently re-run on a cable channel, and not only was the show abysmally bad (I actually liked it when it was first on), but the apartment she was supposedly able to afford as her very first one was ludicrous.