deeanddaisy666
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Another good question!
I still like Lucy, and only tolerated Skelton back when. He makes me cringe now, but then again, so do all clowns. I don't WANT someone to make me laugh by trying. Be clever, and if I want to laugh I will.
I can't remember lots of what I liked then that I don't now, but Mr. Ed is a good example. When Nick-At-Nite brought it back, I hated it! As I did Gilligan's Island. Funny how the sitcoms I thought funny seem moronic to me now.
More will come to me, as you get more responses.
Oh, I hate Westerns now and liked them back in the day, but only because I realize they used trip wires on the horses, who no doubt broke their necks. That's my next career....Animal Humane Society rep on movie sets!
dolores
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Oh man, lzcutter, I love your theory.
I don't know who died at around the same time as Rod Serling or Bobby Darin, but I would gladly have volunteered their souls for a double death and have allowed both these guys to live on.
I like the way you think.
Now, Lee Marvin and his palimony/misogyny (imo) doesn't do it for me, but hey, I'm sure Warren William doesn't do it for you either!
dolores
P.S. HAH! Thank you, Google. Ozzie Nelson died in June, 1975, as did Rod Serling.
Damn you, Ozzie Nelson.
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The Flintstones....
Double take.......Triple take............. :0
THE FLINTSTONES????
Tell me it ain't so.....ET did THE FLINTSTONES?
*sigh*
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Good observation. Well, in Cat On A Hot Tin Roof...did ANYone ever look that good in a slip?...she did have to wait for Big Daddy to croak before she got her inheritance, but in the meantime she did have Paul to look at.
But wasn't she the modern day Anna Nicole? Don't women with drop dead good looks and big ta-ta's get treated differently than average looking Jane Schmos? It's a proven fact that in Corporate America a good looking woman gets more breaks than Jane Schmo.
dolores
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GM, I like the fact that she was intelligent and used her intelligence as well as her beauty. Beauty is, after all, only the luck of the draw when it comes to genes, but the fact that Hedy made use of her brain impresses me. Even Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones, which I don't like, impresses me, since he made a corporation out of his band, whilst the Beatles sold their song rights to the cretin Michael Jackson.
Do you have any later photos of her? I didn't realize she lived until the year 2000. Did you ever write to her? One of these days, I have to write to Lizabeth Scott, to tell her how much I admire her.
I'm curious to see how Hedy looked in her later years. I admire those, lik Myrna Loy, who retained their good looks until their later years and didn't appear to resort to the Knife Fairy for their self worth.
dolores
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You guys are funny!!!!
GM, now behave. My hunk Warren is to me as Hedy is to you. But you knew that.
Thanks, bradtexasranger. I never gave it any thought, it just happened. One day I was running off at the mouth (witness here and TWoP, from which I've been banned), and there went the shyness! I feel for anyone who is shy, though, it is painful. Took me 26 years to overcome it.
susanlenox, thanks....you made me smile!
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jdb1, tastes are funny. I find Bogey very sexy in a schleppy, unmade bed type of way. Cagney I also think is sexy, but in a cocky, take charge type of way.
Both...well, as per their screen images...powerful smoldering SAM guys. SAM was an acronym we used in the 1960s to denote 'sexual animal magnetism' guys. I think both Bogey and Cagney fit this description. To go further back, to when my mother discussed her fascination with Tyrone Power (not that was something I didn't get), I wouldn't throw either Bogey or Jimmy out of bed for eating crackers.
Yes, GM, Raft does take a back seat to both of the above. But he was inimitable in his own way. Although I wouldn't put him in the same row with Brent, Brent I would leave in the men's room, with the door barred. He's about as sexy as a sponge that has seen better days and is about to be tossed in the trashcan.
What I find fascinating are the studio stills of the actors of that era. Someone who magically transformed himself into something else entirely on the screen looks oh so different in a still, and sometimes looks dynamically sexy to boot.
dolores
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Welcome, twister. James Dean was enigmatic and I think his potential was a great loss. His public service announcement on not driving too fast is quite eerie. I didn't particularly like his acting, but then again I don't like Brando either. He reminded me of Brando.
Meanwhile, you dislike Tom Cruise? Here's to you....raising a virtual glass of virtual champagne to twister. I think Tom Cruise is a pompous git who used to have some talent and decided to cease developing it when his head got too big to be reflected in his mirror, thus he couldn't see that he was turning into a horse's ****.
My recommendation, if you're old enough to have developed dislikes...visit the Hot Topics board (or is it a thread?) and wander though the Rants thread (or is it a...well, I have no idea).
Have fun. There are some really nice people here.
dolores
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Ayres, I believe the training part of the performance is HUUUUUUGE. Eddie/Moose, for example, in Frasier is (well, was, when he was alive) in reality a frantic, manic, destructive dog if not trained properly. No way do those dogs just lie placidly on a lap as shown, but training is amazing.
I used to like Lassie with Timmy too (was the other boy named Timmy?), but now for some strange reason I can't watch animals on television, especially horses in westerns. I imagine them being subjected to all kinds of cruelty to get them to act on cue.
Just me.
Woof!
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See, but that's the beauty of this place. I don't think there IS a censoring monitor. If we've gotten THIS far with our O/T rants, I think it's safe to say one nice little thread like this is allowed.
Thank you to the powers that be for your omniscient generosity (how's that for sucking up?
).No, seriously, there aren't many places where I can still go and be what I yam, I appreciate TCM just for that. Oh, and for...wait for it....Warren William.
dolores
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Yes, very well put indeed movieman1957. I think the appeal of the Golden Age movies is an emotional one. Whether it's the 'silvery' appeal of the b/w film, the overstuffed couches and the venetian blinds, the fedoras and the long dresses (respectively on the men and women, of course, well not of course, NOT that there's anything wrong with that), or the appearance of class that the actors of that era had, it is all part of the package that was the films of the first half of the 20th Century.
The studio system lent a veneer of respectability to the actors, even if it wasn't real. The press didn't usually leer into their personal lives and as such the audience ate up what little information was allowed to get out. Stars really put on the glam when they went to special occasions. Jeans were for farmers and factory workers.
Of course, this was also true of John and Jane Q. Public, but the actors took it one step beyond.
Today, and perhaps as a result of Watergate and its time, it is ALL put out there, decorum is passe. I find all films from 1950 on to have a different tone about them, and it's not one I like. There are a few excellent film noirs made in the 1950s and there were, as there are today, excellent general films that will live forever, but overall I peruse the TCM calendar for films before 1950. Again, I may lose a nugget, but if I had every single film made in the 1930s and nothing else for the rest of my life, I would be happy.
My belabored point: it's a matter of personal preference. This board is an excellent example of opinions. No, as someone pointed out, we really shouldn't be arguing over 'who is the best female actor', 'who is the best looking male actor', since it's all an opinion. Even the revered movie critics who deemed Citizen Kane wonderful come up against those here who think they're full of beans.
I don't think it's an ageist view or a sexist view, since I've liked b/w films exclusively for over 40 years now. They always have and always will speak to me. Current films and those made in the last forty years are viewed by me with skepticism and apprehension. I'm usually surprised if I enjoy a new film, as I did Sideways and American Splendour. No matter how many movies are made in the American Pie vein, I won't enjoy the hilarity of the gel aspect. I don't think infantile bathroom jokes have any room in the movies.
I respect clever writing, whether it's in a comedy or a drama. A good actor spouting moronic lines will not hold my interest. The opposite is also true.
It's a difficult business, because moviemaking is first an art. Today's art is all about the money, it has to be. It's a cutthroat world, is the media. I admire those who even attempt current moviemaking. But I don't always like their results.
And that's my opinion. Thanks for listening.
dolores
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OK, I can't find your message Larry. What's this about strangers tagging your stuff????
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And then there was her turn in Rod Serling's Night Gallery, where she did perhaps an homage to her face composing (neat story, nice to know it)? The eyes, boss, the eyes!
Lovely twist at the end. Everyone see it?
Too soon gone, was Rod Serling.
dolores
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Hmmm, moirafinnie6, do you mean certain actors in established roles, or types of movies?
No, I couldn't bear the thought of Shirley Temple as Dorothy in OZ. Is that what you mean? Or do you mean those of us who prefer the bleak brocade and bullets of film noir vs the glittery technicolor of the musicals of the same period? I prefer one over the other for sure, but I think others here are more open minded than I.
Overall, I prefer glamor (Lizabeth Scott) within gritty (film noir).
Interesting question.
dolores
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Not a reply, per se. But I'm not good at keeping silent, so hopefully I'm not one of those who talks on and on, but I probably am, bradtexasranger! Since I was painfully shy most of my life and have now decided...as God is my witness!...never to be silent again, I may talk too much. :0
But a pertinent rant, WHY do I have to keep signing in to this site? Why, when I close a window and then reopen it, do I have to sign in again? Why doesn't TCM have the ability to keep my sign in? Other sites do, as long as I have checked off 'remember me on this computer', I don't have to keep signing in.
This REALLY p's me off.
Really.
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Well, I wouldn't want to see Bogey dancing from the waist down on a stage...nor would I want to see Cagney walking away with Claude Rains into the mist...but since they are both timeless, I'll call it a tie as well.
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Thanks, lzcutter.
OK. Has anyone asked you, or did you explain and I missed it?
Why: Damn Lorne Greene.?
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Bela Lugosi in Dracula.
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Funny and funnier stuff! Sad but true. Art Linkletter would roll over in his grave if he were dead.
Rusty, you a kook? Absolutely not. The X-Files and Johnson helping out Oswald are looking more and more each day like BAU. I believe some folks have bad karma and others are blessed with la-di-das their entire life. It is what it is. And, it could be worse.
rainee, I like your comeback. The idiots I encountered at Best Buy (to which I have never returned) didn't get such a clever retort from me. I was so furious at the disrepectful service (at Customer Service) that I could only blubber at the idiot's manager, whom I demanded and who was equally disrespectful, that he must have trained his underling, since they were both idiots.
So, where do I go to sign that petition to make stupidity and rude manners a hanging offense?
dolores
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My wife replied, "you don't see the glass half full, or half empty...the glass is always empty." I was pleased.
Boy, am I pleased that you are pleased. That always annoyed me...hah, another rant!
I hate the psycho babble Dr. Phils of the world who come on teevee and maintain that to be happy, a person has to be of the glass half full mindset.
Well, horse pies. I'm happier being grumpy than I ever was trying to be happy in all my life.
Hmmm, did that make sense? I bet you understand.
dolores
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No, CineSage. Even if the websites that tout bad plastic surgeries are full of beans, a comparison of current pictures with those of 10 or 15 years ago will show that his face has been altered surgically. His windswept skin is NOT the result of age.
featio, the same can be seen with Marilyn. A difference in her nose and chin can be seen in early photos.
dolores
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Rusty, your stories are hilarious. Better than Dave Barry...oh wait, somebody here hates Dave, is it you?
You didn't blow your top in Lowe's?? How impressive.
Yes, I've heard the fram in the fram-is-tan explanation at different times. I encounter that where I work...instead of saying "sorry, I don't know", people will actually give the wrong answer to those seeking help.
OK, so now -- what happened at Sutherland's?
dolores
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Thanks, classicblackandwhite. Good points.
Also, there is the backstabbing and mistrust that must go on in Hollyweird, even with an actors own circle of friends and agents. Whom can they trust?
Yes, consider Marilyn Monroe who subjected herself to so much plastic surgery. True, the result was pretty darned good, but she either put on a fragile personality or she actually was someone who still didn't think highly of herself even after being made beautiful.
And look at that facet as it relates to today's actors. I call them actors loosely, by the way. Michael Douglas is practically unrecognizable after all his surgery, and he is only one of many.
Again, true on the lack of privacy those who choose the profession give up today. The bigger they get, the more the press hounds them. While I don't feel completely sorry for them, as they knew this when they went into that career, it has escalated to a point that defies comprehension. Who DOES care whether Tom and Katie have a two headed baby or not? I surely don't.
dolores
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Sounds like you're the anti-Mr. stoneyburke, JackBurley!
Mr. SB hates snails and hates La Cage Aux Folles. I know, Nathan Lane was screechy, but I liked it, for some reason.
dolores
Cagney vs. Bogart which is your favorite?
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Rusty, blech on Brent. I'm sure you're a thousand times better looking.
On O'Brien, he annoyed me for some reason. I hated, HATED him in I Married A Doctor, but that was the script. Stupidest, lamest movie in the entire world. I didn't like his priestly portrayals, and I didn't like him in Front Page. Aside...I love Adolph Menjou. But O'Brien...eh.
But darn, I didn't take note of Hard To Handle. I'm surprised at me, 1933 no less. Rats. Hope they replay it.
dolores