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Don't know if this has been discussed before but thought it would be interesting. Just read of Tuesday Weld turning down Bonnie and Clyde because of pregnancy which is a very good reason indeed, I'd like to discuss those roles or nearmisses that Hollywood is famous for like Sylvester Stallone originally thought for the Axel Foley role in the Beverly Hills Cop movies that went to Eddie Murphy. I think that is correct sorry if my info is wrong. Also Tom Selleck who was considered for The Raider's of Lost Ark series? Also if I am incorrect in this info I am sorry. But what I am most sure of is the replacing of Judy Garland with Betty Hutton in Annie Get Your Gun. I just can't imagine Judy in this role at all and I love Judy. Betty does a fantastic job. I have not seen the other versions with Merman and Stanwyk(non-musical of course) or the Broadway versions with Reba McEntire or Susan Lucci. On my VHS is the scenes Judy did shoot and they are good but the movie screams BETTY, BETTY,BETTY. I would love to hear the musical numbers sung by Judy she recorded all the songs Betty did and her singing of I'm an Indian Now is Better than Hutton's but the role to me couldn't be the same without Betty Hutton IMHO. Anyway can anyone else relate opinions of role changes or refusals of roles leaving one to wonder why they turned that down??? Thanks BTW Garland left Annie Get Your Gun because of health reasons.

Guys-I like those Elvis movies. I love Elvis. I remember getting the TV guide when I was 10,11 and up and searching for any Elvis movie I could find. It didn't matter how early or how late I had to see them.... I remember my father commenting that if I could get up for those early Elvis movies I could get up for school. I just couldn't take my eyes off of him. Now that I'm older yes there are a couple that that are bad but you can still see "him" and it seems he is having a ball in most of them or making the best of a bad situation. Then there's the spotting of other stars like Kurt Russell,Barbara Stanwyk,Barbara Edens{before Genie}, Jack Albertson,Ann-Margaret,Shelly Fabres, Mary Tyler Moore{before the MTM show}, Teri Garr, Burgess Meredith and many more.I was astounded to find out from the official Elvis website the onscreen and offscreen talent that made those Elvis movies and dumbfounded as to why Elvis didn't find his way to some better movies. The camera loves him and he was so good looking those movies to me are guilty pleasures a must see. I also believe that Elvis could have been a Good or Great Actor I honestly do you can see it in his first 4 movies. I also believe he would have found his way if he had lived to a stellar movie career or Broadway- both in my opinion.

What I think is interesting about Liz Taylor is how I got to know Liz the star see I had heard of Liz's marriages first as a young child I would hear jokes about the marriages and always wondered why they were funny-my parents liked to watch the Bob Hope specials and Johnny Carson. When I finally saw Liz it was an older Liz and I remember her being so Exotic looking and I wanted to see those violet eyes my father told me about. I remember seeing a copy of the Star the tabloid when Liz was 50. Anyway I also remember Liz being overweight I mean seeing pictures of her overweight and though Joan Rivers made fun of her weight I never got that this was funny{something to make fun of I mean} or ironic {like Elvis becoming overweight} until I saw a younger Liz and the beauty she was- my gosh. I am not trying to be mean I am trying to convey my first impressions of Liz Taylor. So when Robert Osbourne talked of Liz Taylor's performance in Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf? and how she put on weight for the role which back then astounded lots of people that she would go to that extreme it didn't me since I didn't start to see her as a child then a teenager and a young woman. I saw her from older to younger. The one thing I can say for Liz is she is a survivor. She has a life to match the drama, the laughs, the dreams, the horrors of anything a person can throw on screen. She has seen it all. I especially like the movie The Last Time I Saw Paris, Butterfield 8 {my fav}, and Cat on A Hot Tin Roof. I've never seen Cleopatra.

I had to listen to my CD with Henry Mancini movie music this week and I just realized it was after learning Elmer was dead. I don't have his music on CD but love the music on To Kill A Mockingbird and I have a tape of the movie with Elmer talking about the music for Mockingbird. Just genious how he describes the piano playing that he patterened it after a child playing the piano whenever a child comes to a piano for the first time they hit keys in a repeatitive fashion. My family loves To Kill a Mockingbird and the music just is icing on the cake. Thanks for the music Elmer Berntein and god bless your family and friends.

Thanks moviejoe for the info as I was reading thre thread I wondered where do these guys get the addresses? I have a book by Shirley McClaine called Don't Fall Off the Mountain and it would be cool to have her sign it though I want to be sure I'd get it back. Also if she saw it I'd hope she wouldn't get mad I had to retape the front flap of the book back to the cover. I really liked this book an excellent read. I found it at a secondhand store.If you want to post the address I'd be most appreciative. thanks gwtwbooklover

After saying I wouldn't ever read it and putting it off for a lomg time I read the sequel twice. I hated it the first time and then I thought I'd give it another shot since I had re-read the original and I hated it again. I wish someone else could write a sequel to justify the original. Of course it would have been wonderful if Mitchell would have done it but she didn't and I'm not sure if she intended to do one. Then TV made a version of Ripley's book and made it more interesting slightly anyway by changing the book Ripley wrote dramatically. I read somewhere that someone was writing a book that was going to include characters from GWTW. I think it was the guy who wrote the book that Babara Streisand and Nick Nolte made a movie of in the 90s which name I can't remember now. Of course the original movie tinkered with the book version but not like the TV version did of the sequel. Ripley had a good idea to take Scarlett to Ireland and Scarlett did grow up and become a woman and not the selfish child she once was but she missed so many opportunites to make this a readable book. I never understood the superstition qualities about the Irish Ripley put in her book and the granduer was missing the detail of South Carolina the detail of Ireland which Mitchell described to the letter about Georgia you could smell the flowers in the original book, you could taste the gun powder of the battles, you could feel the strain in Scarlett's back when she had to work hard. Not to mention the Ripley version is terribly short on romance. You can find it with a microscope if you look hard enough esp. between Rhett and Scarlett it takes so long for Ripley to reunite these lovers it is maddening. The only plus I can think of the seqel is the dropping of the vernacular of the blacks talking which when read is easy to read to oneself but aloud I trip over the written word of the words said by Mammy and the like. I've always wondered if this was intentional or a politcal correct decision of the publisher of Alexanra Ripley's book?

Mongo-I'm pretty sure I've seen Five Came Back on TCM I guess they decided not to include it during these 24 hours that they dedicated to Lucille Ball. I think Lucy deserves her day she was in so many movies which I was surprised to learn about{her movie career} since all I knew about her was I Love Lucy. Of course it has been several years now that I've known about Lucy's work in movies and I like the movie work better than the TV work. I will always consider the funny of I Love Lucy in Ricky's ,Fred's, and Ethel's hands. In the movies we get just Lucille's performances I mean she's more believable to me,more funny when it is suppose to be funny and touching when it's suppose to be dramatic. My favorite Lucille Ball movie is Yours,Mine and Ours. I caught it {on vacation mind you} during the time they moved into the house. I love that movie.

Have anyone seen this ? How was it? I live in a small town and the only theatre we had closed down so it will be a while before I see it-any info about the remake appreciated. I Love the original.

To Sir with Love, Love With A Poper Stranger, Magombo,Hatari, Edward, My Son The Romance of Rosy Ridge, and I'm stumped for more will get back to you.

You know they do look alot alike. Their roles where they are being sexy and throwing clever lines Loy in the Thin Man movies and Sarandon in Bull Durham. Maybe it is the hair and nose.

I was first introduced to Mickey Rooney when he was in BILL with Dennis Quaid. It was such a beautiful show a masterpiece it was sponsered by General Electric I believe. We saw it on PBS I was between 10 and 15 years old then. He can do it all and it's nice that the Academy Awards has given him an honorary Oscar while he is still alive. His accepting of it is on my tape of Oscar Moments from 1970-1990. He was very gracious.

I also like This Property Condemmed. It was nice seeing Mary Badham a favorite from To Kill a Mocking Bird and the scene when Redford first arrives and Wood is pursuing him and he says{he checked into the hotel which is jumping with women and song} and he says to Wood who is on the bed with him-not a direct quote but close- Hey if this is part of the service then lets get it over with I'm tired. I howled and of course Wood leaves. I've never seen Inside Daisy Clover.

Natalie Wood is one of my favorites she's so beautiful she kicked a## in ahhh I can't think of the title I'm losing it at age 34. The one where she's thrown on the stage by her mother the night they needed a stripper. Can't believe I can't remember the name -how aggravating.Of course there's Love with a Proper Stranger Looove that movie. She was such a lady and it is so interesting to see her on film how she puts on clothing or taking them off in Love with a Proper Stranger she could do everything with such ladylike finesse like as she dons scarf and gloves or removes them-such a lady. I believe everything she does and as I post that I think of the one movie I didn't like The Great Race but she's such a presence you can't take your eyes off of her. I wish she was still with us so sad what happened to her. I like Splendor in the Grass and I get so aggravated at that mother if I could I'd reach thru the TV and slap her. If she had left those 2 kids alone they would have been all right. I just love Natalie Wood.

thanks kenwal70 and edgecliffd for the responses have another question does this mean that before it was letterboxed the movie you saw on TV only showed the middle camera view or just where were the other 2 cameras shooting I mean what angles. Were there three cameras mounted together side by side to film all the action? Just curious.

thanks loliteblue for the response- I thought that was Spencer's voice

I liked Edward G. Robinson in The Cinncinatti Kid he gave that movie such class he just rounded it out nicely. He also gave Soylent Green a touch of class esp. the beef stew scene and then how his character took the final steps of the movie and how he gave the movie depth and humanized it. Hard to believe he never got an Academy Award and if they were going to give him an honorary one they could have done it sooner-he was around since the 30s.

sorry about the repeat of topic purely accidental also was wondering was that Spencer Tracy narrating?

Had to work Saturday so I saw bits and pieces of this movie was wondering if anyone knew-how come the letterbox edges looked like a folded letter? I saw a crease on both sides of the letterbox both of equal proportion where the extra parts of the scenes if you will took place. I thought maybe all letterbox movies did this and maybe this is the first time I noticed but later saw another letterbox movie and learned I was wrong on that assumption-is it due to the age of the film?? Thanks for any info

Had to work Saturday so I saw bits and pieces of this movie was wondering if anyone knew-how come the letterbox edges looked like a folded letter? I saw a crease on both sides of the letterbox both of equal proportion where the extra parts of the scenes if you will took place. I thought maybe all letterbox movies did this and maybe this is the first time I noticed but later saw another letterbox movie and learned I was wrong on that assumption-is it due to the age of the film?? Thanks for any info

Had to work Saturday so I saw bits and pieces of this movie was wondering if anyone knew-how come the letterbox edges looked like a folded letter? I saw a crease on both sides of the letterbox both of equal proportion where the extra parts of the scenes if you will took place. I thought maybe all letterbox movies did this and maybe this is the first time I noticed but later saw another letterbox movie and learned I was wrong on that assumption-is it due to the age of the film?? Thanks for any info

Fanclassic maybe the name of the movie was I Could Go On Singing? Did the movie you saw entail Judy's caracter going to London and was Dirk Borgarde{probably woefully misspelled} her co-star? Also was the scene you mentioned was she talking to Jack Klugman-Oscar from the Odd Couple? These are from I Could Go on Singing originally titled The Lonely Stage. Also Judy's character was named Jenny Bowman I think. Hope this helps....gwtwbooklover

leo- I can't fathom Taylor beating the tar out of Clift.Even in character just can't fathom it. Brando looked like he could take it. Anyway I didn't like Reflections in a Golden Eye.

Seriously-Isn't Twisted Sister the rock group that dressed as women? If so is Babes in Arms the movie where Mickey Rooney did his Carmen Miranda skit? I have to say that he made a striking picture dressed in the skirt and the headress and make-up. If he did this in Babes in Arms. Anyway Ava Gardner talks about meeting Mickey after this Carmen scene is shot and him trying to chat her up with make-up still on in her book AVA.

good idea edgecliffd I'ld secomd it wholeheartedly. I also thought the Mitchum/Russell interview could have been a little longer.

loliteblue I'm stumped also-so aggravating I can think of a movie to fit one of the clues but it doesn't the others. It's like taking a test.