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  1. And may I add my thanks to Dr. Ament and her colleagues at Ball State, and TCM, for offering this fabulous course. It was fun and informative, and a good chance to see a lot of movies... some of them in a different way. And thanks to all of you who took part in these discussions and replied to my comments. I never did get around to posting a comment of the cult classic 'Rocky Horror Picture Show'. Real excited about it, though, as I just got a ticket to see the stage show at the Stratford Festival in Ontario this fall... and just got one to see 'Come From Away' in Toronto in two weeks.
  2. Foley art, and how it's applied to the making of musicals... tap in particular. I'd never heard of it before this course.
  3. For those of us without a DVR it has been sometimes frustrating, especially when movies featured in the lectures are shown at odd hours. But TCM has to make programming choices. Overall, it's been a great course!
  4. Jakeem, that Carpool Karaoke was fabulous! Wish I looked that good now... let alone when I'm 76!
  5. Beatlemania in '64... there was never anything like it in North America! Not Elvis... not Michael Jackson... nobody's ever come close. In the first half half of '64 the Beatles topped the charts for months, with one hit after another: She Loves You, I Wanna Hold Your Hand, All My Lovin'... and they'd stay at the top for weeks. Then there was all the screaming and hysteria of the young girls at the concerts... mania was the only word for it. Who finally knocked The Beatles off the top of the charts in your area? Where I lived, in Toronto, I'm pretty sure it was The Dave Clark Five, and I
  6. Enjoyed the Monday discussion on 'A Hard Day's Night', as I was interested in listening to informed opinions on the movie. I've always thought of the Elvis and Beatles movies as being very flimsy musicals, almost trashy, made on the cheap to entertain teeny boppers and sell records. Perhaps 'A Hard Day's Night' did something to promote a positive image of the Beatles with the older generation, who saw them as being wild and radical. Regarding the sixties as being changing times, I don't recall the early sixties, when the Beatles were starting out and 'A Hard Day's Night' was made, as really
  7. Rodgers and Hammerstein musicals are all much alike... primary love story, secondary love story, usually some sort of ballet or dream sequence, drama that often reflects on social issues. Songwriters often seem to work to a pattern, especially when it works. Probably makes it easier to know where you're going with it, and that the audience is going to like it. Andrew Lloyd Webber did occasionally... writing musicals like 'Joseph', 'Cats' and 'Starlight Express' to a wide variety of different styles of songs: rock, country, jazz, opera and so on. But then he did some really innovative thing
  8. Anyone wanting a condensed but entertaining look at musicals over the years might like to check out 'That's Entertainment'... made in 3 parts. It's available from TCM in a DVD set, and includes 'That's Dancing'. If you're mad about musicals, it's very entertaining.
  9. Thanks, everyone for your comments. I was really just trying to stimulate discussion by stirring the pot a bit and seeing how people would respond. I agree with people who say we need to look at the various social issues of these films through the values of the times, and accept them as they were made. That said, I was still surprised that there wasn't more reaction to the sexist behavior of the brothers, especially after all the discussion we had on Disney's 'Song of the South'. As BartG mentioned, Milly dealt with it all by showing herself to be a strong person, taking charge of the hous
  10. The race issue in musicals has been one of the focuses of this course, and it's led to considerable outrage being expressed by students on just about every aspect of race and racism in musicals. Fair enough. While sex roles and stereotyping have also been a focus of this course, I really don't perceive the same sort of anger being expressed over sexism. People seem to just accept it for what it is, or was in the particular era. While the story of 'Seven Brides for Seven Brothers' is one you could view as being silly yet harmless fun, by today's sensitive standards it's probably one that sh
  11. Hepburn would be more convincing than Kelly in pretty much anything... though Grace would win me in a heartbeat. 'High Society' was just an excuse to put a few musical numbers together in a light fluff musical, and strut out a few big stars.
  12. After 3 weeks I'm just about ready to OD on musicals, but must say I enjoyed 'Pal Joey'... seeing it for the first time. Not just show tunes, but some great songs (Lady is a Tramp... take that, Rita!), and a good story. What a choice for Frank to have to make, between Rita Hayworth and Kim Novak, but I can't imagine anyone being disappointed in who he finally ended up with. One more first-time show to see tonight - 'Seven Brides for Seven Brothers' - then I'll have take a break for the weekend.
  13. Today's notes touched on make-up artist Dorothy Ponedel, and the work she did on Judy Garland. Judy generally looked lovely in films, and Dorothy must have done a great job, but I want to mention one in which I thought her make-up was horrible... one in which Ponedel apparently was not the make-up artist. The movie was 'A Star is Born', a fabulous picture that I watched for the second time a couple of nights ago. The major makeup flaw, one that is quite common and which I absolutely detest, is applying lipstick beyond the lip line. Now I realize that bright red lipstick was popular back in
  14. Such a cutie! Such a sweetie! So talented! 'Singin' in the Rain' has to be her best performance. My favorite, anyway. Good mornin'!
  15. To me, Lorre was the star of the show. (Siberi-eri-eri-yah!) Cyd and Fred were nothing to get excited about. The best scene in the entire show was Cyd's transformation in the bedroom... putting on all the glam! That was well done. (...as good as watching Liz taking it off in 'Cat on a Hot Tin Roof')
  16. I suppose that's only fair, isn't it? I've always wondered how any guy lucky enough to grab a sweetie like June (or Greer, Ingrid, Olivia, Shirley, Deborah, Cyd, Teresa, Vera, Barbara, Grace, Myrna, Luise, Claudette, Audrey, Lana, Joan Fontaine and a handful of others) could ever consider cheating.
  17. I've always found Doris Day charming, with such a sweet singing voice, but never really thought of her as a singer who could belt out that big tune ('Que Sera' ain't it)... until I heard her sing 'Secret Love' at the end of 'Calamity Jane'. It completely transforms her character and, to me, is her best song ever.
  18. Oh, those legs! Fred Astaire called her 'beautiful dynamite' and said "That Cyd! When you've danced with her you stay danced with." You can see her in a few films today... 'Silk Stockings', 'The Band Wagon', 'Brigadoon', 'Singin' in the Rain'... 'Always Fair Weather.' Don't anyone dare call me! (No World Cup games worth watching today... good!)
  19. There have been several discussions here about racism and the race issue... and rightly so. What I'd like to touch on is the issue of white actors/actresses being made up to portray people of other races... from Asians to native 'Indians'. Very often, they are portrayed in a stereotypical way, which comes across as being highly racist. (Mickey Rooney in 'Breakfast at Tiffany's'... a role he later deeply regretted taking.) But there have also been occasions when white performers have done an excellent job portraying an Asian character, playing the part with the dignity it deserves. A coupl
  20. I don't know how prevalent dubbing has been over the years, but for decades I played the sound track of the movie 'The King and I', thinking I was listening to the beautiful voice of Deborah Kerr. It was only recently that I found out it was really Marni Nixon's voice. She also dubbed for Kerr in 'An Affair to Remember', for Audrey Hepburn in 'My Fair Lady', and for Natalie Wood in 'West Side Story'. According to Wiki, Wood was never even told during production that her voice was being dubbed. Such a shame Marni Nixon was never given credit at the time... and paid so little. Marni, I ador
  21. Just off the top of my head... 'Glenn Miller Story' (Jimmy Stewart, June Allyson), 'Night and Day', about Cole Porter (Cary Grant, Alexis Smith). Without dancing, are they considered musicals? As far as I'm concerned, if they're basically about music, they're musicals.
  22. Some guy made a Youtube article on the 15 most racist films of all time (which I recently watched because of the discussion we had on blackface in films), and this was one of them. Walt Disney a racist? C'mon. The black actor James Baskett, who played Uncle Remus, was given an honorary Oscar for the warmth he brought to the role. Stereotyping isn't always racist, or sexist. It can be an accurate portrayal. I'm not saying this film is or isn't (as I haven't seen it), but when speaking of racism you need to consider intent. Sometimes claims of racism, using today's politically correct valu
  23. June Allyson so often played the sweet little wife, but she did so many pictures with Van Johnson that when I see her with anyone else it somehow seems like she's cheating.
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