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I too, was left wondering about the scenes that were cut. Overall, it was a good film, but there were some flaws. I've come to realize one has to remember when these films were made. Today's movies tend to be much more realistic. Once you give in to the idea that people will fall in love in two days or" bad" guys can become "good" guys literally overnight it's easier to relax and enjoy.

Well, that answers my question. Obviously I'm still a neophyte when it comes to the subject. However there was a murder in IN A LONELY PLACE. I don't think I've seen the others mentioned except LOST WEEKEND. I never considered that film, as good as it is; to be Noir, but I guess it is.

I just finished WICKED WOMEN. Eddie was correct it was pretty trashy. Like Hibi, I kept waiting for a murder. Which brings to mind another question. Can a film be classified as Noir without a murder or tragic death? I'm sure someone will remind me but I cannot think of one without a murder.

Wow, it's hard to believe "Sweetface" from BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID ever looked like that photo. Also, I would not have pegged him as a lady's man. I've got to watch WICKED WOMAN now just to see him. I've seen him in countless films and TV shows. He was a fabulous character actor on the same scale as Strother Martin who also appeared in BCATSK.

I assume Jeff Donnell played Tony's wife, correct? She was good.

Has anyone seen NIGHT EDITOR? I recorded it on MOVIES last week and just finished viewing it. It's clearly a B movie in that I only recognized one of the actors. However, it wasn't bad and has a surprise ending I didn't see coming. I know this site is primarily for films shown on Noir Alley. I plan to watch WICKED WOMAN soon and will post my comments. I just wondered if Eddie has ever showed NIGHT EDITOR or if it's familiar to any of you Noir fans more knowledgeable than me.

I have seen GRUMPY and GRUMPIER. They were wonderful films and Ann Margaret and Sophia Loren both look amazing. Also, I just learned there is a 1998 sequel to TOC called THE ODD COUPLE II. I've done a search and haven't found a free viewing as yet. I can rent it on PRIME for $3.99 which I may do. It's Oscar and Felix seventeen years later. Apparently, their children are marrying each other in California. It got great reviews and sounds like something ODD COUPLE fans would enjoy.

I watched THE ODD COUPLE from 1968 last night. I'd seen it several times, but had forgotten how funny and entertaining it was. Jack Lemon and Walter Matthau were perfect as Felix and Oscar. The supporting cast was great as well. The two actresses that played the Pigeon sisters were fabulous. Also the poker group was very reflective of how middle age men acted in the late 60s. I caught myself laughing out loud even though I'd seen and heard most all of the lines before.

I've probably seen most of the ones you named and you are right, they are good. I didn't mean to imply they were bad. I've never been a fan of musicals so I probably discounted all of those. The MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE and VON RYAN"S EXPRESS were two I enjoyed. Also I liked all the Rat Pack films. I just meant his music career far surpasses his acting career in my humble opinion. BTW My daughter and I chose to THE WAY YOU LOOK TONIGHT for the father/ daughter dance at her wedding.

I thought the best TV movie made was BRIAN'S SONG back in 1970 (or '69). Today they've been replaced with what they're calling "limited series". These four to eight episode features are basically long movies.

Of course I was a Sinatra fan, but mostly because of his music. He did have a couple of memorable movie roles. However, while acting may have prolonged his career, I thought most of his movies were fairly pedestrian. FROM HERE TO ETERNITY was probably his best. SOME CAME RUNNING was pretty good too. When I think of Frank, I always think about The Rat Pack days. He, Dean, Sammy, Peter and Joey were the epitome of cool.

Didn't Netflix originally start as a video rental service? Seems like my son was a member and they got new DVDs mailed to them every month.

Well, TikiSoo; you sent me to Google as I wasn't familiar with William Castle. However, I learned I'm certainly familiar with his work. I remember going to see THE TINGLER at our small theater in the 60s. Also, it's interesting that he worked with Wells on THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI.

Just watched NIGHT AND THE CITY on TCM On Demand. It was just OK. It's one of those flicks where none of the characters (except Mary) was very likable. Widmark did a great job playing a hustler and it was interesting seeing a really young Herbert Lom. It's always nice to see Gene Tierney. Although she didn't have a really big role she did a good job portraying Fabian's long suffering girlfriend.

Yes, VCRs are kind of like typewriters and rotary telephones. I still have one connected to an old box TV. I also have a whole shelf of movies I recorded. I know there are places that will convert them into DVDs, but I doubt I'll do that as DVDs will probably be obsolete before long. Things have really changed over the decades. I still remember the signs saying "Be kind; Please rewind".

I think you all are correct. One has to just accept that there will be some things in a two hour movie that don't seem plausible in real life. That's probably why some of these newer shows on streaming sites use so many flashbacks to explain relationships between characters.

Just watched GILDA on TCM. I cannot believe I hadn't seen this before. Frankly, while I did enjoy it, I thought it was a little weird. Rita Hayworth was stunning. For some reason I haven't seen that many of her films. She is absolutely gorgeous and I completely fell in love with her character and her performance. I get that she was so in love with Johnny that everything she did was to get his attention. Also I understand he thought she was unfaithful and just a party girl looking for a sugar daddy, but I never picked up on why they split in the first place. Also, how did a small time gambler and a night club dancer/singer from the US end up in Buenos Aires? I know a lot of Nazis fled there after the war, but having two average Americans go there was a bit of a reach for me. Maybe I'm being too logical. Anyway, I now plan to seek out more of Hayworth's films as she has now moved into my top tier of favorite actresses with Natalie, Audrey and Grace.

Watched MALLORCA E1S1 and MIDSOMER MURDERS E1S7 last night. MALLORCA was OK, but kind of cheesy. MIDSOMER was as good as usual. We went through the first five seasons on Netflix before they took it off. We're pleased there are 14 more seasons for us to watch in the coming weeks and months. . I just hope the "stay at home" suggestions don't last that long.

I just learned there's no Noir Alley today and I'm as disappointed as you. I guess I could have recorded it last night had I known earlier. Hopefully , this is just a one time thing. Also, maybe NIGHT AND THE CITY is or will be on TCM On Demand. Anyway, I'll probably skip LAWRENCE OF ARABIA too. I think I have a Bogart film on my video recorder.

Thanks for all the info and feedback. We're looking forward to getting started today.

I just signed up for the free seven day trial of Britbox through our Amazon Prime account. We love many of the British TV shows. Hopefully, they have some classic movies as well. Do any of you have Britbox and if so, how do you like it?

Certainly. Again, I have list. These are just my top two.

Of the actors and actresses still working today; I would choose Denzel Washington and Julia Roberts.

I have a list too, but Steve McQueen was the first person that came to mind. As far as actresses are concerned, Grace Kelly would be my #1.

I agree. The film did remind me of a Perry Mason episode.