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Wouldbe, That's terrific news!!!! Hope you will be able to join us that Thursday at In-N-Out Burgers (the best burgers in southern California). We are waiting for the schedule to be released before we set a gathering time. In-N-Out is just a block or two south of the Roosevelt hotel!

The City of Angels can be a bounty of classic film screenings. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences hosts screenings almost every month. You can sign up for email alerts at their website. www.oscars.org The Los Angeles Conservancy is hosting "Last Remaining Seats" which is an annual Summer series that brings classic films to the downtown movie palaces. www.laconservancy.org The Hollywood Forever cemetery hosts an annual summer outdoor summer series of classic films that they project on Valentino or Fairbanks' crypt. Hollywood Heritage hosts programs at the DeMille Barn on Highland and a summer series called "Silents Under the Stars" at the old Paramount Ranch in Agoura. www.hollywoodheritage.org The Egyptian and the Silent Movie Theater probably have the most eclectic programming. LACMA has matinees and evening screenings. UCLA has monthly screenings and in the summer their annual Preservation celebration. Quentin Tarrantino bought the New Beverly awhile back. He gives the family that ran the theater for many, many years plenty of room for them to continue the programming the theater is renowned around Los Angeles for. Hope that helps! Edited by: lzcutter on Mar 30, 2011 9:11 PM

Cid, It's still there. Below a poster's name is their post count and registration date. Under the registration date is the Ignore button.

Wouldbe, *Please* take Kyle's advice and call the number. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will all work out and we will see you in Hollywood next month.' It would be great to meet you!

Renee, I am using Firefox and can change the EST to PST (but it won't remember to use that as the default and each time I visit the schedule page I have to change it back) but, just now for instance, the listing for *The Crime Doctor's Courage* expanded on its own. That movie isn't even showing in my time zone yet. And the short synopsis for the daily schedule really should be returned to the main page so that people don't have to expand the schedule to see if they like the description or visit the database to make that decision. Using the schedule should be a helpful tool where you get the info you need as quickly as you can because the movie could be about to start and most people like to watch a movie from the beginning.

*Perhaps we should ask TCM what it thinks is a "classic" movie. Let's go there and find out.* We already did, about a month ago in this very forum. It turned into a very unpleasant thread and, as noted here early, most people did not change their minds over the debate. It's in the archives and shouldn't be that hard to find. You can also find the previous debates about the topic in archives as well. Edited by: lzcutter for more info

The posters here at TCM City are usually quite good at posting the deaths of classic studio era stars. Word is circulating around the web that actor Farley Granger, perhaps best known for his role in *Strangers on a Train* passed away over the weekend. Update, looks to be true: The Hollywood Reporter is reporting his obit: "The actor played a likable tennis pro thrust into a murder exchange in Alfred Hitchcock's 1951 movie and documented affairs with Shelley Winters (pictured), Ava Gardner, Leaonard Bernstein and others in his 2007 memoir, "Include Me Out." Farley Granger, who played the likable tennis pro who was thrust into a murder exchange in Alfred Hitchcock's Strangers on a Train in 1951, died Sunday of natural causes in New York. He was 85." For more: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/strangers-a-train-star-farley-171994 Edited by: lzcutter because it looks to be true Edited by: lzcutter for an update

*I know exactly what you are discussing and I stand by everything I just said lady..* My apologies. You don't have to worry, you and won't be discussing the subject any further.

*******************************SPOILERS************************************************* CineT, I know Veda was a bit stuck up and obnoxious but at the end of Part 2 last night, we all but saw Mildred smothering Veda with her grief over the loss of Ray. I wonder if Veda was left with the impression (likely mistaken) that Mildred loved Ray more than Veda? Might help explain why Veda hates Mildred so as the story goes forward. A month from now, we'll be having drinks and talking in person!

*With no hesitancy...Shane...The Best Western Ever Made...Movies like the Wild Bunch ...are garbage compared to Shane...* Jake, I'm not sure if you realize but we are discussing favorite western film scores not favorite westerns. You may not like *The Wild Bunch* as a film but Jerry Fielding's score is quite good and quite moving in many places.

The new *True Grit* score is currently my favorite (like all my favorites, save *Mockingbird*, it's a moving target) and while I love *The Wild Bunch*, *Magnificent Seven*, *Dances with Wolves* and *Silverado*, forty some years after hearing it, I still remember Neal Hefti's *Duel at Diablo*, a jazz infused western score. Gotta love it.

*You say the air "dates" (plural) are listed on the database film pages.* Robbie, For one brief shining moment, multiple air dates were displayed on the database. But, then, like Camelot (and in a fraction of the time it took Camelot to implode), they were gone. Multiple air dates for the film pages in the database should be a top priority as that is how the majority of people discover a title is on the schedule sometime in the next three months. If the people responsible for the Site Upgrade would like to talk to people who not only love the Channel but get their info from the old fashioned computer method and the functionality that needs to be restored for those posters (who appear to quite large in number), I am sure they could find plenty to talk to via PM.

*Thanks again everyone for your continued patience and assistance while Pete and I attempt to gather all the necessary information.* Renee, I think the most pressing question at this point is: Will the functions that were in the old monthly/weekly/daily schedules that are currently either missing or require expanded view and thus the printing of more pages, be restored or are we going to have to learn to live with the current monthly/weekly/daily schedules? People are right about the schedules and needing the synopsis info with the title. No one wants to kill a forest of trees each month to print out the new "expand here" schedules. They want those previous functions returned to the current schedules. If that is not going to happen, someone in authority should say so. If it is going to happen, then a time line (even if it is only an estimate) of when they will be restored would go along ways to restoring posters confidence not only in this upgrade but in TCM in general. And speaking of time lines (even if it is an estimate): When will "Suggest a Movie" return? Why the delay? Is it being redesigned to work better or is it off the table? When will multiple air dates and the Remind Me functions be restored to film pages in the Database? When will the save and preview functions return to replying to a message? When will there be a working image code installed in the General Discussions forum? It has been almost three weeks and I understand that patience is required. But, some real concrete information in exchange for posters continued patience would probably go a long ways to cooling the situation down. Edited by: lzcutter for grammar

*Letty Lynton* and *The Story of Temple Drake* both of which would need to get their rights issues cleared up before this could happen. But, should that happen, I would be there at Amazon buying the DVDs in a New York minute.

FredC, I think what probably sparked the upgrade was because technology has changed the way people acquire their information from the internet. Smartphones, Iphones, Ipads, Kindles and an assortment of other technologies have made it possible for people to access the internet without sitting in front of their computer. That doesn't mean that the features from the old site that people are clamoring for should be ignored or not taken seriously. Those features should be incorporated into this new upgrade as quickly as possible and as painlessly as possible as not to disrupt the site or those who use the site as frequently as many who post here do. But, the new technologies have changed the way people access this site and will again in the future. It seems like TCM is aware of that change and trying to deliver its web content in all the ways that people are now getting their information.

I admit to being a bit confused about all the talk of returning the entire site back to the old format The majority of this overall site seems to be working fine. The three major stumbling blocks are, and have been since the upgrade, the schedule pages, the database and links that bring up the zombie pages. It would probably satisfy a number of complaints if the upgraded schedule pages could be fixed so that the functionality of the previous schedules were incorporated into the new schedule pages. On the Database pages, it would be probably do the same if the multiple air dates and the reminder feature with the multiple air dates was reinstated. I do like that the Database pages now have reviews from TCM viewers. The links that bring up the zombie pages are being fixed but probably not fast enough for many. As for the message boards, the biggest problem is with the threads with large number of replies, specifically Kyle's Poster Thread, Candids 2, Movie Rambles and Movie Rambles 2 and Western Rambles and the lack of a working image code in the General Discussion forum. In addition, there is Fedya's (and others) who can't get their settings for reading threads to properly save so they don't have to change the settings each time they log-in. And the preview and the save function for composing posts needs to be returned now as well. I don't see how that warrants a complete return to the old website format but I can understand why some posters are getting tired of the time it is taking to repair the above problems. And again, it would be nice to get some sort of update from the WebAdmins. This break down in communication is leading many people to think that those in charge at TCM don't care and I doubt that's the truth. It is also leading some to think that perhaps the information that new and old posters are writing about isn't being given the weight it deserves by either Renee and Pete or the TCM itself. By locking threads with no explanation, it is leading many who are new to the message boards with the idea that the Mods are trying to stifle the conversation about the upgrade at all costs. All of this is only making the situation worse than it has to be and is damaging not only the brand of TCM but the way that viewers think about and interact with the Channel and I doubt that is something those who actually work at TCM in Atlanta take lightly. But it is the impression all involved in bringing these problems to light are left with. Edited by: lzcutter for save and preview.

I admit to being a bit confused about all the talk of returning the entire site back to the old format The majority of this overall site seems to be working fine. The three major stumbling blocks are, and have been since the upgrade, the schedule pages, the database and links that bring up the zombie pages. It would probably satisfy a number of complaints if the upgraded schedule pages could be fixed so that the functionality of the previous schedules were incorporated into the new schedule pages. On the Database pages, it would be probably do the same if the multiple air dates and the reminder feature with the multiple air dates was reinstated. I do like that the Database pages now have reviews from TCM viewers. The links that bring up the zombie pages are being fixed but probably not fast enough for many. As for the message boards, the biggest problem is with the threads with large number of replies, specifically Kyle's Poster Thread, Candids 2, Movie Rambles and Movie Rambles 2 and Western Rambles and the lack of a working image code in the General Discussion forum. I don't see how that warrants a complete return to the old website format but I can understand why some posters are getting tired of the time it is taking to repair the above problems.

*Porgy and Bess* with Sidney Poitier and Dorothy Dandridge. But first, the Gershwin Estate has to agree to it.

It was an idea that I never agreed with but the money that Ted Turner made from colorizing films he plowed back into the preservation of the old MGM film library that he owned at the time. He preserved the original *Ben-Hur* and did the first restoration of that film and he bankrolled a number of other restorations as well including the restoration, with stills, of *Greed*. Because of those profits, a number of silents and other films were preserved and restored. Turner then made them accessible not only on video but also TNT and, ultimately, TCM (in the early years of the channel). Without that, they would have foundered far longer in the vaults.

After Ford, Hawks and Wilder, I would include: 4. Michael Curtiz 5. Raoul Walsh 6. George Stevens 7. John Huston 8. William Wellman 9. William Wyler 10. George Cukor

*So the problem has NOT been resolved.* Fred, You are correct. I should have done some more digging before posting that. I was just surprised that I could actually get back to the original posts in those threads, I thought it meant something it obviously didn't. I'll go back and change my original post so that Renee and Pete realize that the problem is still ongoing. Thank you for catching that.

*I don't know if it will be corrected or not.* I wanted everyone to know that it looks like the problem of not being able to go back and read posts in threads with large number of posts (ie: Kyle's Poster Gallery, Movie Rambles and Western Rambles), I checked those threads this morning and it looks like that problem has been resolved. *UPDATE: As Fred has noted above, the problem has not been totally resolved. While you can now get to the original posts in those threads, some pages still take you to blank page, so the links remain broken.* I was able to get to the original posts in all three threads with no problem though it did take some time to load. Other repairs I have found: I have a blog that has numerous links to other sections of the TCM Website and most of those links now appear to be working so it looks like this issue is being worked on. The alternating icons at the top of this page: the starlet, cameraman, Chester Morris like visage, etc, now alternate through successfully without all of them rolling into together to look like a giant blob. I wish that Renee or Pete would post updates when fixes that people are clamoring for are repaired so that we would actually know instead of either stumbling across them ourselves or actually doing our own investigating. It's been almost two weeks since there has been any word. And we know they are around because threads keep getting locked. On that note, since many of the people starting these threads are new to the message boards (though they may not be new to the overall site), a word of explanation would probably be appreciated when a thread is locked so they know the reason behind the locking. Right now, too many of them think that honest discussion of the upgrade issues is trying to be stifled and that's not the case. At least, we hope it's not. With that in mind, I would like to ask the WebAdmins for an update on the schedule and the fixes that need to happen to there as well as "Suggest a Movie". What's going on with those issues? Edited by: lzcutter because not all the links are working Edited by: lzcutter on Mar 26, 2011 12:49 PM

*You all know exactly what I mean.* *The murder of Bambi's mother? Like he had to do that?* *Lots of other disturbing scenes in Disney's productions.* The author of Bambi, A Life in the Woods, Felix Salten, actually killed Bambi's mother. Walt only had the book adapted. In fact, most of the stories that Walt produced, like many of the studio heads of the classic studio era, were taken from literary works and many of those literary stories had tragic moments and traumatizing situations. I think your beef is with the original literary authors. Walt (and the others) only visualized what they had written.

Rich, I wish TCM could get the rights to *Wild in the Streets* just to read what you have to say about that film.

jbh, Douglas Slocombe was the cinematographer on the Redford version of *The Great Gatsby* Francis Ford Coppola wrote the script and Jack Clayton directed: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071577/