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I first became acquainted with "The Boston Beguine" from an LP by Joan Morris and William Bolcom titled "Lime Jello - An American Cabaret" Sadly it is OOP and never released on CD as far as I can tell. It is a wonderful set of "pop" cabaret numbers with the just right mix of humor and sentimentality. The original song "Lime Jello Marshmallo Cottage Cheese Surprise" is a particular favorite. Also "Tamara, Queen Of The Nile" about the secret life of a grade school teacher. There is a compilation CD of some of their other Cabaret albums ("Black Max" particularly and one I have on cassette, useless as that is nowadays.) available at Amazon but nothing from the "Lime Jello" recording.>> Kyle, I swear there was an article in last summer's LATimes about this album! I'm watching footage of Vince Edwards singing (!) on stage on the Riv and Orson Welles doing his magic act.

Kim, As long as Encore's Western Channel has the Audie Murphy westerns on lease (and they do seem to show a good number of them), it's likely that TCM will be unable to show them until Encore's contract expires.

Bill, It's doubtful that "The Man Who Would Be King" would have been on television in the late 1970s as it was tied up for awhile in rights hell for anything but film showings. The film opens with a wizened man (Christopher Plummer as Rudyard Kipling) dropping a sack (to say more would give the movie away) on a table and then telling us the tale in flashback that leads up to him having the sack. No witches, I'm afraid. It's a great movie and it looks like they are showing a restored print of it at the Robert Osborne Film Festival this March in Athens, GA.

SPTO, There were still films being shot in black and white in the early to mid 1960s but I think by the middle of the decade when the majority of Americans had color televisions, Hollywood was primarily shooting in color. Films in black and white in the early 1960s: The Apartment, Fail Safe, The Best Man, The Americanization of Emily (coming to TCM next week, I believe). There were probably some small budget films that were shot in black and white until around 1970 but they were certainly the minority. Once America embraced color television, black and white film photography was doomed.

the actor/dancer must go to a Foley studio and record a tap track on a wooden floor and perfectly match the image on the screen for a clean sound. It's interesting to imagine a Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly or the Nicholas Brothers trying to recreate in sound what they see themselves doing on screen. Anyway, I hope a few of you find this info of interest. >> Ayres, The explanation is for the most part how it was done. The only thing I would add is that the majority of top ranked dancers didn't do their own Foley work. Other dancers would be brought in for that. The only exception I can think of is Fred Astaire.

I'm finding it interesting to read about the problems with DISH (and I don't imagine DIRECTV is much better)>> Delores, I just wanted to say that I think DirecTV does a very good job. We have had Direct for almost ten years now (in two different cities) and do not experience the problems nor the frequency of problems that the folks with Dish do. The only time we have a problem with our service is in extreme downpours and it is only out briefly then. I think all satellite subscribers have the occasional frozen frame or pixelatization (see FredC's description of why, it's quite accurate) but Dish TV subscribers seem to have more problems than Direct subscribers (at least here in Los Angeles).

but every decade has it's good and it's bad.>> Peter, That's one thing that we tend to forget around here, not every film ever made is a good film. Not every black and white film ever made is a work of art. Not every color film is gorgeous. The stars of the studio era made some great films and they made some bombs. Hollywood has made some truly bad films in every decade since film making began. But some of those truly bad films are a great deal of fun to watch. And some of them are just too hard to watch. The past will always seem better to us as we get older and we will long for that simpler time when life seemed better. But seemed is the operative word there. It was never as rosy as we remember it.

Rusty, I came close to getting an iPod for my recent "mid-century modern" birthday but Mr Cutter chose a wiser gift. That said, if TCM offered podcasts of "Private Screenings or Word of Mouth or those five minute interview fillers, I'd running across the street to my lovely Apple store and putting down my hard, cold cash for an iPod. It's all the incentive I need. Heck, I'm creating podcasts of TCM material in my head just thinking about it!

Carol, Here's the link to the book on Amazon that gives an indepth description: http://tinyurl.com/23s9y5 And here is the website for the book: http://www.laurelcanyonthebook.com/?page_id=2 I will try to remember the title for the other book and post it for you. This book sounds great and I used one of my mid-century modern gift certificates to buy it. Should have it sometime next week.

Welcome Twister, We are glad you have found so much worthwhile information, photos and interesting things here at our little dusty outpost. Glad to have you on board. Over in Hot Topics is a thread titled Who Are We where you can post a bit about yourself and get to know us all better, too. Again, welcome aboard!

Koonin said TCM will remain commercial-free, but Turner would be open to advertising opportunities on new-media platforms.>> Anne, I wasn't sure why you highlighted in bold the above but I wanted to let you know that the new media platforms they would be open to likely involve downloading to cell phones, computers, etc. New media platforms is the hot new buzz word and the new technologies propelling cell phones, Ipods, downloading, podcasting and the we want to see it now concept of viewers has many of the networks trying to figure out ways to meet their audiences demands. Podcasting is another technology that has broadcasters trying to fill the market needs. Granted, many of us here are true cinephiles and the thought of watching a promo or One Reel Wonders on our iPod or cellphone is likely not even in our thoughts. However, the business travelers among us may be interested in, if available, downloading an episode of Private Screenings to watch on our iPods or subscribe to a podcast to hear Private Screenings or the Word of Mouth episodes as it may be something to watch/listen to in our hotel rooms when there is no TCM available. If TCM had podcasts of Private Screenings or the Word of Mouth episodes, or even some of their interview filler spots that I have missed, I would subscribe. So, new media platforms does not necessarily mean commercials or even more recent films taking over TCM. It means TCM, like every other broadcast network, including Fox Movie Channel, is exploring the new frontiers that this technology has made possible and that its viewership will be demanding in the months ahead. Message was edited by: lzcutter because the future is not here, yet.

Perhaps in future we can just refer newbies to the "search" button to review past discussion without saying "no one respond to this!" which could be taken wrong.>> Otterhere, This is the one of the best suggestions I have heard regarding this type of thread. I hope we will all remember to try it the next time this subject comes up. I know I will.

I think if Kyle had less than the best intentions he probably would not have gone to all the trouble to show prior threads that went over this topic and encourage the poster to come back. He could have dismissed them with a condescending tone and be done with it.>> Thanks Movieman for pointing this out. Kyle will often go out of his way to provide information to this forum. From the looks of things, he came late to this thread and tried to extend an olive branch (which is his way). Kyle is one of the most most generous and thoughtful posters around here and I have never found him patronizing. He will often go out of his way to provide links and information from other places on this site when trying to help. It's one reason why I dislike threads like this, it always, needlessly, turns ugly.

Carol, There are two new books, one is called: Laurel Canyon and deals with all the musicians, singers and songwriters who were living in the Canyon in the late 1960s and how they created the California sound and turned Los Angeles into the music capital of the country. It is supposed to be quite good.

I figure fans of whatever genre will be following that time slot and those forums devoted to that? Sounds a bit like proselytizing, actually...!>> Fans of all genres post reminders for films of all genres here in the general forum. Thanks to FredC's keen eyes, many here have been reminded of some great noir, precodes and other genres that they might otherwise not have watched except for FredC's recommendation. Fred is not alone in his recommending films on the schedules that others may overlook. Every week someone pops up with a suggestion. This is the most popular forum on the board and many posters only check this one and none of the others. But there goes my paranoia again!>> Have you seen a doctor for that?

I'm not sure what these "plugs" for Underground are doing on here... Those who like Underground will catch the segment; those who don't, won't??? I guess I can alway start "plugging" my beloved silents and foreign films... >> Otter, The Underground fans often post about upcoming films just as silent fans and the foreign film fans do when they want folks to know about a film they like or consider important. If there are silent and foreign films that you wish to post about, please feel free to post about them.

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I will therefore restrict my condemnation to your governor and to the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce>> Delores, Apology not necessary. You didn't offend me, I just wanted to point out that we the people of California have no say in the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce. Also, the Governor has no say in the Chamber's business. If you want to condemn the Governor, condemn him on the things he does have a hand in, the Hollywood CoC and the Walk of Fame, however, is not one one of those.

The people of California should be ashamed of themselves. >> Delores, As one of the folks from California around here, I have to say we have nothing to be ashamed of. We don't have any control over the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce and their WOStar Committee. We don't pay with our tax dollars for the upkeep of Walk (at least that I am aware of). We are not asked in any way, shape or form for our opinions on who should be selected. Graumann's has no say in the decisions either. It's just the location. The Hollywood CoC is a business and they make their own decisions (yes, they make some very boneheaded decisions) regardless of what I or JackBurley or Kyle or Filmlover or CineSage or any of the rest of us think or care. You want to be mad, be mad at the Hollywood CoC and their interest in only those who can pay for their star and those whose names will bring the press coverage that Johnny Grant and others covet. But don't tell the rest of us here in the State that we should be ashamed for something completely out of our hands and way beyond our control. That's the equivalent of saying the entire state of New York should be ashamed because Donald Trump has an office in New York City.

One last thing, can anyone explain why the Kevin Brownlow set "Hollywood" is not yet available on DVD? I am aware of some vague reference to copyright difficulties. I hope I am not rehashing something that has already been discussed in the past. Again, any info would be greatly appreciated.>> Ufaman, It is still tied up in rights hell but is rumored to be about 95% through the lengthy battle. It was set to be released in England last year but hit a snag at the last minute. Everyone is holding their breath hoping that it will finally be released this year.

Let's just say different strokes for different folks and leave it at that; was merely pointing out the SEVEN post-1960 film line-up for the benefit of all you who list statistics showing just one or two in an entire month..>> Otterhere, Your original post about modern movies was concerning the number of modern movies being shown in prime time. People took the time to find old schedules and show that there are not more modern movies being shown in prime time than there was a year ago, four years ago or ten years ago. Now, you have changed the perimeters to include modern movies being shown during the day and you cite "for the benefit of all you who list statistics showing just one or two in an entire month." As this was not where the time frame that you cited originally, it's not fair to use those stats to support your argument now. This is one of the longest running arguments (dating back to the early 2000s) on this board. People have been complaining about the number of modern movies on TCM probably since this message board went live. Other posters take the time to find evidence that doesn't support that theory. No one thanks them for the amount of time it takes to do this sleuthing and crunching of the numbers. The argument then becomes oh, well what about during the day, what about last month, what about last summer, etc? The bottom line is that TCM is not a philanthropic foundation that has millions at its disposal to spend, it is a business whether we like it or not. Also, if TCM was to only program films shown made between 1920 -1959, they wouldn't be in business very long because there are not enough film buffs willing to watch the channel 24/7 to make it even remotely viable. We, the posters here, are a small percentage of their overall viewers. As TCM is, and always has been, showcasing films from all decades, the majority of viewers indicates that is just fine with them.

It is on the list of films that Mr Cutter and I want to see. Hopefully, it will stay in the theaters long enough for us to do that. Otherwise, it will go to the top of our Netflix queue when it becomes available on DVD. One way or another, we will be seeing it.

Danny, I, too, am a big Blackadder fan. I think it is one of the funniest shows created.

Wow, I'm glad y'all can't see me blushing. Thanks to Anne and everyone for the wonderful good wishes. Today I start living the next half century of my life. I'm glad to be doing so with such good company. Thank you again, Lynn in Sherman Oaks (who really is liking that mid-century modern idea)

Otter, Here's a thread from a few weeks ago: http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?messageID=7857739 The explanation by Markfp2 explains it best.