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Anne, I don't think you are doing anything wrong. I think weblink for promos is broken and needs fixing.

Sweetbaby, If I omitted anyone it was not intentional. As for their opinions, I don't know how they felt about the arguing. All I know is that, in going through the forums, I discovered they stopped posting this year. If they are posting under new names, they are certainly welcome to post here and let us know they are still with us.

Can you please recommend a good book about editing for the interested general reader? >> Moira, There is a wonderful book by Ralph Rosenblum "When the Shooting Stops, the Cutting Begins: A Film Editor's Story. Rosenblum worked with Woody Allen back in the 1960s and 1970s as an editor and this book is one of the best.

Mongo, You are more than welcome! You help us focus on the stars, the films and all things movies. We hope to hear your story one of these days. Message was edited by: lzcutter because the cutting and pasting did not work.

Moira, You are more than welcome. Looking forward to hearing about the holiday parties over on the Campus. We have heard rumors of a pretty big free for all. Can't wait to hear the juicy details.

Also, haven't heard from Ralph from Laos for a long time. He used to E-Mail me but I think his computer blew up - he was having trouble with it last I heard. Too bad... >> Larry, I always looked forward to posts from Ralph and I am sorry that he is no longer posting here. Lynn aka LMSU, FSS founding member

Fred, I'm sorry you felt lectured to. That certainly wasn't the intent. I'm sorry you find the post arrogant as that wasn't the intent. All I said was that I would hope it would inspire folks to check out other threads. I didn't demand any one do so. I just wanted to highlight some of what I considered to be the most imaginative threads created this year. No one has done anything wrong and I'm sorry that the post made you (and anyone else) feel that way. I do not claim to have gotten them all and everyone is invited to share the threads that they most liked this year.

These are my reasons, and I'm sure others have similar reasons for not visiting other posts. General discussions covers everything, so I'm sure that's why so many stick with it.>> Anne, I understand completely. Some of the threads we honored came from other forums besides General Discussion and I hope it inspires other posters to check out the other forums as there are some good threads that they might be interested in.

I just did a search of your name under the category of ?Genre Forums? for ?This Year? and I found 10 posts. I did a search under the same category for my name and I found 50 posts.>> Fred, I'm not sure what your point is considering this is just a listing of some of the what I consider to be great threads this year.

Thanks to all who have taken the time to read this thread and respond. I know it means alot to me (and while I can't speak for Kyle, I'd wager he does to) that posters are taking the time to read and study this post. Thanks again.

Fred, I have been rather busy the last few days, but I have answered your question this evening.

Fred, Sorry it took so long to get back to you on this, I've had a few irons in the fire this weekend. It's been many years since I have seen the original "Frankenstein" so I am unable to answer your question until I am able to see the film. In my younger days when I was able to remember more, this would not have been a problem but these days I am much older and cannot always remember all the scenes I want to.

Remembering the Fallen Dateline- TCM Boards, mid-December 2006 How do you describe a battlefield? What if there was no clear-cut winner? Two groups met on the TCM boards in early January 2006 and unwittingly began a battle. Throughout that cold and rainy Winter, they would skirmish sometimes on a weekly basis. As winter thawed, the Spring promised, as it always does, a chance to be born anew. Here, at this dusty cyber-outpost, that chance was squandered as the two camps continued to skirmish over the programming on TCM. Spring became Summer and, while Boo Radley did not come out (who could blame him), the battle waged on. The fighting grew increasingly vicious and no one seemed to notice the casualties. Each battle left some bloodied but determined to continue the fight. Other battles left more than wounded. The number of casualties rose as Summer turned to Fall. In September, the two factions met to fight over something as innocuous, in hindsight, as Short Films. One side said that TCM should not be bothering to broadcast this baloney. The other side countered that Short Films were just as much a part of film history as classic studio era films. The battle waged on and the noise got bigger, louder and ruder. As they clashed into the night, no one paid much attention to those ghostly figures that left the field for good. And now eleven months later, Fall has once again given way to the cold of Winter, and still the fighting goes on. The fight has grown into a venomous battle that may prove to be larger than anyone ever intended. The battles fought over the Programming, over the hijacking of the ?If You Can?t Say Anything Nice? thread, over the idea that TCM might rerun some of the anime festival from January, over the almost constant calling of a film or actor ?crap? caused the largest number of casualties. If you go back and read the threads in the General Discussion, Hot Topics and Information, Please forums, the battle is there, frozen in time, as the armies retreated to fight another day. What exactly are they fighting about? A battle royal with this much strum and angst surely must be over something very important. Perhaps, free speech. Both sides often bandy it. But the fact is they are not arguing about free speech. Each person that comes to the battle carries free speech with them and uses it freely so that is not the reason, only the MacGuffin and I doubt that Hitchcock would be amused. When you look at the number of casualties lost in this year-long debacle has the battle been worth it? Has all the harsh and mean rhetoric that has been lobbed back and forth been for the betterment of the board or the betterment of the channel? The wounded remain here, the fallen have become a part of our collective past. We can still remember them through the posts they left behind. But, in the end, are we not worse off for no longer having their input and expertise on a daily basis? Has any of this constant fighting had an effect on anything other than this board and the people who gather here to talk about movies? TCM has not decided to stop running color films. It has not stopped running films made after 1949, 1959 or 1969. It has not stopped running silents, foreign films, genre films, short films or historical documentaries about the filmmakers and the stars. So, in the end, the two sides will once again retreat to their separate corners. Neither will be willing to call a truce because that would be impinging on their free speech. Their battle royal will continue on and on, changing nothing except the landscape of the place they gather to share their stories, their thoughts and their memories of the movies that matter to them. There will continue to be casualties on both sides. Late at night or early in the morning, you can sometimes glimpse a ghostly figure. I wonder if you feel the loss. I know I do. A roll call (hardly comprehensive) of those we lost because the battle was more important: Bacallfan BallofFire Bellanosy Brackenhe Busterchaney Cooperroks Daddy?sprimadonna De_varene GarboManiac GenieBeanie Helenbaby Helenwheels Ipress JerryCalgary JoanneThrax Johnnyweekes70 Jump Raven KathleenT Markfp2 Metry Road MovieJoe Movozus Nakano Neilelm NYGirl1089 Nyoka1 NZ Paramountt Patful Pilgrimsoul presteign rainee Ralph Sam Therapy Scarlett Shainabluegirl SusanLenox SusannO TCMViewer Thebiach traceyk65 Vitaphony Wmruffin Wordmaster Lost: A wonderful, classic film message board where the members treated one another with respect and civility. If found, please return it to the TCM Website. Lynn aka LMSU and Kyle in Hollywood, FSS Founding Members

The Order of the Keyboard In researching this post, I was surprised by a couple of things. I never noticed how much traffic the General Discussion threads get in relation to the other forums. Some folks seem to just read the General Discussion threads and never venture out. I hope that maybe this post will inspire them to do so because there are a number of great threads not only in Hot Topics, Information, Please, Favorites and Films and Filmmakers but also in the genre threads that are filled with information and a lot of expertise. There are a lot of good people who post here and a lot of people who are very willing to share their knowledge and expertise. But most of all, there is a lot of imagination. When Kyle and I first started talking and bandying ideas back and forth, one of my contributions was to go research the forums and threads. In doing so, I discovered a great deal of combativeness but more importantly, I discovered that we are capable of not only getting along but we enjoy spending time with one another. Perhaps, in 2007, we might find more ways to do just that. ?But l've discovered, Doc, that the unseen enemy of this war is the apathy that eventually becomes a faith and, therefore, a terrible sort of suicide. l know now that the ones who refuse to surrender to it are the strongest of all.? Lt. JG Doug Roberts These are the threads that showed imagination, invited us to put aside our differences and brought us together. Above all, they remind us how wonderful this cyber-living room can be when we set aside our battles, agree to disagree and just have fun. With that in mind, we award: The Order of the Keyboard (with apologies to the crew of Mr. Roberts) ''For action against the enemy above and beyond the call of duty.'' Moirafinne?s ?Classic Cinema College? This wonderful thread was created by Moirafinne6 as she imagined a Cinema College with a once in a lifetime faculty. We wish this place actually existed so that we could hang out not only with the faculty and staff but with all the talented posters who participated in this thread. Larryvecchio?s ?Trip to Russia? When Larry went to Russia for the Dowager Empress? reburial, he took us along and kept us in the thick of it with his posting. Thanks to his expressive language we enjoyed the Amber Room, the food and the drink of Russia. Wagering to bet that the majority of us have never been to Russia, at least now we can feel like we did. Path40a?s ?Original TCM Challenge? The original is always the best. In an effort to get us focused on how difficult it can be to program a channel 24/7, 52 weeks a year, Path created the TCM Challenge asking all posters who were up for it to program a week of TCM using some of the constraints of the Programming Staff. It was much harder than many of the participants realized when they started programming and being responsible for themes and other set pieces. TCMProgrammr gave his moral support and after all the Challenges had been posted, began using themes and ideas from the Challenges. What better compliment could we ask for? ShelbyClover?s ?Black Americans in Film? An incredible month of programming and one that took great deal of nerve and courage but TCM stepped up to the plate and didn?t blink. They could have done a Fox Movie Channel but instead, they offered up a remarkable month that kept us talking, thinking and discovering for weeks after. Cclowell38?s ?Best Movie Soprano Voice? We may not know much about the ability of singers but when most of the posters can be found checking out this thread in Musicals, you know you have a winner. Inglis? ?Who Are We All? Carol from Canada posted this thread because she wanted to get to know us all better. Thanks to her, we let down our guards, set aside our battles and for a brief moment this summer got to know one another. We actually liked it, too. Go figure. Jdb1?s ?A Star Grew in Brooklyn? and ?Gallery of Characters? Brooklyn bred Judith took a look at her hometown and the wonderful actors that once called the borough home and shared them with us. Her Characters thread reminds us all that it is indeed the character actors that usually provide the glue that holds a story together. KenWalk04?s ?Continued Next Week?? Same Bat-Time, Same Bat-Channel, before Batman came to television, we could get our thrills each week at the local Bijou with movie serials. Thanks to Ken, he brought them back to life for us. Though this thread began in 2005, by early February this year, Ken had moved on. However, we are fortunate that his thread lives on. WmRuffin?s ?Greatest Movie Ending? How do you pick just one? We each responded with our choices and others lurked, reading our choices making this one of the most popular threads this year. JoeEBrownfan?s ?If You Could Choose One Movie? Imagine moving to a desert island and you could only take one movie? Joe E Brown asked us what would that movie be. We didn?t bother to question where the power would come from. Jezebel?s ?The Saddest Movie You Ever Watched? Jezebel asked us to look through our tears and talk about the saddest movie we ever watched. It helped to have a box of Kleenex or a hankie handy while reading. Sallie?s?What Movie are You Still Waiting for DVD? Sallie may have started this thread on Christmas Day, 2005 but Shearerchic04 and Filmlover (before he got his DVD forum) helped keep this thread up to date with upcoming releases. He says he just scours the internet for information, but shearerchic is one in the know guy and we applaud his enthusiasm and keeping us to update. Mongo?s ?In the Spotlight? Mongo may be this message board?s most senior poster (in terms of years here) and he has delighted us with his Birthday threads where every day, rain or shine, holiday or not, he shares with us who is and did celebrate another passing year. Added bonus, who passed away. Perhaps growing weary of that thread, he has started a new one that spotlights the actors that don?t have the name recognition and the marquee draw of the stars. Thanks to him, we are able to appreciate the hard working men and women of cinema whose name we may not know, but whose face we recognize. Where we go from here, how we post, how we treat one another, it?s up to each of us to decide. Months ago, MrsL may have unwittingly provided us a New Years Resolution that might be worth giving some thought to: ?I plan to stop talking doomsday and will hope that everyone else follows suit What I have said in the past is dead and buried, and I trust it will stay there.? The first step may be hardest but, a week, a month, a year from now, it might be worth it. What do you say? Lynn aka LMSU and Kyle in Hollywood, FSS Founding members Message was edited by: lzcutter because using the proper pronoun to distinquish between the sexes is important and Joe E and Joe W Brown are two different people.

Well, I completely forgot that voting ends today. For some bizarre reason I thought we had another week. Anyways, this one was TOUGH. I loved them all and would love to see all three schedules as I would be glued to TCM for three weeks. That said, I have to go wtih Filmlover. Warners is my favorite studio and his schedule highlights the history and some of the best of the Brothers Warner. Congrats to all and I look forward to the next Challenge!

Okay. So, the editor has pieces of film, or digital video data files. The editor has pieces of sound media, or digital audio files. >> Rusty, In today's non-linear world of editing, the sound and picture are combined in the digital file so that makes it a tad easier than back in the day when they were two separate strips, one film, the other mag (sound). <> The script is broken down into scene and shot numbers and when the film is shot the scenes and shots are labeled on the slates so when it comes time to digitize that footage so the editor can begin working, the scenes and shots are labeled accordingly. You cut a film or a scene together following the script. Often the editor will realize long before anyone else that the way a scene is written may work fine on the page and even fine when filming, but fall flat on the screen. The editor will finesse the scene til it works. < Today, the film is often cut while the filming is going on so that shortly after filming a rough cut is ready. Most directors will let the editor put together the rough cut and then work with the editor to create the final film. Other directors have a set crew that they work with. Eastwood, Spielberg and Scorcese are three directors that have been working with their editors for years and trust the editors so they don't feel the need to sit in the editing room day after day. Most editors, given their druthers, would prefer to work alone without the director watching their every move and every cut. But alot of that comes down to experience and security on the director's part.

Jack, Any chance it could have been "Yanks", a wonderful WW2 story that stars Richard Gere (and before anyone starts booing, he is quite good in this), William Devane and Lisa Eichorn (her next big role after her memorable debut in "Cutter's Way"). BTW, if it's not "Yanks" and you haven't seen it, I recommend it. I haven't seen it since it's original release in the early 80s but it has stayed with me all these years. Lynn, FSS Founding Member

Could also be "Night of the Hunter", doesn't the young hero go out on the lake fishing with the old guy who promises to be there should the young boy and his sister need his help? After coming ashore, I believe the young boy goes back home and encounters his sister Pearl, who gives him a hard time about not liking the Preacher. Lynn, FSS Founding Member

It has been announced that Ennio Morricone will receive a special Oscar this year for his many contributions to fim music over the years

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Anne, I think it probably pertains to the controversy surrounding Miller's death. Was it a plane crash or was Miller's plane shot down by the Germans. There is some belief in some circles that Miller may have been spying on the Germans or British and US intelligence. Was Leslie Howard on the flight as well? I know there are some who believe he was spying for the Brits as well and that was why his plane was "shot down".

Mongo, Thanks to you I should have some sweet dreams tonight! Thank you!

I think Otter was referring to Solaris as the film with the "you know what shot". I don't remember there really be anything too risque in O'Brother besides the sirens.

Larry, He also starred on a police series "Bodies of Evidence" with Lee Horsley and Kate McNeil. I think that was between Roseanne and ER (the second series).

Because I, for one, don't buy DVDs; if a station plays good movies, hello, get a blank tape and save yourself the $29 (or $49 on PBS); never quite got that...>> As long as studios can make more money selling box sets of old and new television shows, they are not going to rush on upgrading their classic films to digital. And as long as they lag at it, the fewer classic films are available to TCM to run. As for them showing modern movies, they've always shown modern movies as part of their line up. There are numerous threads about this debate here in the General Forum. As for inducing us to buy classic DVDs, those of us who buy them generally do so for not just the film but the extras as well. I have a great collection of DVDs, both classic and modern, and I still watch TCM.