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Sure, Butch Cassidy is a Fox title... but so what?>>
Cinemascope,
I don't have a problem with Fox leasing a film to TCM (they don't do it very often so I am thankful when they do).
I was only answering your question about it being in the article as a Paramount release.
I don't remember it being a co-production between Paramount and 20th, and unlike Paramount, 20th is not in the habit of selling off parts of its library to other studios.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I should have cut and pasted the part of your message I was responding to.
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She did tend to get involved/married with guys that were close to him - Henry Fonda, and his agent (and I think there was one other?)
Yes, she did commit suicide in the early 60's -- still waters run deep?>>
After her marriage to Fonda dissolved (it only lasted maybe a year), she married William Wyler and then Leland Hayward.
She had a nervous breakdown from which she never really recovered.
Her daughter, Brooke Hayward, wrote an autobiography called "Haywired" that goes into a great detail about the mental problems of Margaret, Brooke's sister, Bridget and her brother, Bill.
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It will no doubt come as a surprise to 20th Century Fox, the studio that released Butch Cassidy and the studio that continues to release the DVDs for Butch Cassidy.
I don't remember it being a co-production between the two studios.
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Anne,
I believe you are thinking of the Hotel Del Coronado (we just call it the Del) down in San Diego. It had a starring role in films from "Some Like It Hot" to "The Stuntman" (a great late 1970s film starring Peter O'Toole).
If you follow the link that Kyle provided in his post about Tom Brown, you would learn that Brown is the Vice President of Original Productions at TCM. He was nominated for an Emmy for the recent doc on Bette Davis "Stardust".
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Kyle,
Thanks for the additions to the thread. For the record, I also miss Sam Therapy.
As for the Alto Nido apartment building, I wish it was on Gower as I used to live in apartment building just behind the monastary on Gower above Franklin.
The Alto Nido with its very cool still working neon sign is at the top of that little street between Cahuenga and Vine off ramps on the Hollywood Freeway.
I have also wondered about the people living there, do they know.
I forgot about Ben M and No Name doing a spot on Musso and Franks, I remember we wished they had filmed it while we were there (no martinis, how unswank of us, I know. Don't tell MattHelm, he may never forgive us).
Manny the bartender was the best. Reminded me of Cuddles Sakall.
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Larry,
I was unable to get tickets! But the event was very successful and I am hopeful they will open the house again this spring.
In the meantime, I did see some of the house and grounds in "Los Angeles Plays Itself" a documentary about Los Angeles on film.
Thanks for bumping this as I missed your question last week.
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Moira,
I would second and champion MissGoddess inclusion of "Company of Heroes" by Harry Carey, Jr.
Also, I would recommend A Short Time for Insanity by William Wellman and Allan Dwan: A Pioneer by Bogdanovich.
King Vidor's "Just a Tree" was a tough read for me.
And somewhere I have a copy of Raoul Walsh's autobiography "Each Man in His Own Time" was a good one.
Robert Birchard's book Cecil B. DeMille's Hollywood is good as is Sally Dumaux's bio on King Baggot
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The Matador is a wonderful little film with Pierce Brosnan and Greg Kinnear. Brosnan does a great job of being the complete opposite of James Bond. The art direction, especially the use of color, is breathtaking.
Inside Man with Denzel Washington, Clive Owen and Jodie Foster. Good thriller with an ending I didn't guess before the film was over.
Enemy of the State with Will Smith and Gene Hackman. Released in 1998. Hackman plays Harry Brill (an older version of his character Harry Caul from The Conversation). Probably more relevant today than when it was released in 1998.
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Here's the thread that was started by Sam Therapy (not Kyle in Hollywood as I originally thought):
http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?messageID=7810399
Hollywood Hideaways appears to the be main title. Looks like they have gone to Nate and Al's Deli, the Formosa and Hollywood Forever Cemetry.
But who is Ben M's sidekick?
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Keep moving, this isn't the post you are looking for.
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Jack,
The Apple Pan is still there and a great place to eat. One of the best places in LA to get a burger. It is located further east on Pico from 20th.
You should stop in for a burger and pie the next time you are down this way.
What made me think that Tom Green? My memory needs a reboot.
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Fred,
There was also the Formosa Cafe (it is used in LA Confidential) which is still there. The studio it was located at was originally where Doug Sr had the sets built for his version of Robin Hood.
It was Sam Goldwyn's studio for many years and then was Warner's Hollywood.
The studio, I believe is gone, now. A large retail complex is there but the Formosa is still open and doing business.
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There was one about a bar across from a movie studio that famous actors used to visit. >>
The Nickodell was just outside Paramount's Melrose gate (the famous gate). It was a diner with a great bar. The building dated back to the 1920s or early 1930s as I recall. It's neon sign was gorgeous. It was torn down in the 1980s.
There was a great little Mexican restaurant across the street from Warner Brothers Gate 9 (?) that was torn down in the early 1990s so that Modern Video could expand.
The Sagebrush Canteen in Culver City across from the old MGM studio claimed to have been in business since the early days of MGM but some were dubious of that claim.
There is a golf course across the street from 20th that has been there for more years than most can remember.
Universal being located on the hill didn't have any bars across the street that I can remember.
So, I'm betting you are thinking of the Nickodell.
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Fred,
Are you referring to the Bradbury Building? It has intricate iron filligrie work inside with a couple of old manual elevators. Very open space with lots of wood and light? It's still there. One of our restored landmarks that filmmakers love to use. Been in the movies from the silents to Blade Runner and beyond. A long cinematic history for a great building.
As to the original poster's questions: I believe the co-host with Ben M is Tom Green(the ex of Drew Barrymore). I don't think it is a long piece that has been cut up but rather short pieces of Ben M and Tom Green hitting some of the landmark Hollywood locations.
There's a thread in General Discussions from last spring that was started, I think, by Kyle in Hollywood about these pieces.
As to why there's no mention of the series on this website, well that's a mystery for another day.
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Cinemascope,
TCM is playing Brewster McCloud, The Big Parade (which is coming to DVD this winter) and Ace in the Hole during the next three months. Keep an eye on the schedule.
Brewster McCloud will be shown as part of the Robert Altman tribute in two weeks.
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Cine,
Many of Altman's films were done at 20th Century Fox, who has their own movie channel.
TCM is able to lease some films from Fox from time to time but not, it seems, as many as they can lease from other studios who don't have a movie channel.
Fox Movie Channel may be running a tribute to Altman as well. Has anyone checked?
As for Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean, there may be a rights issue with that one. It's not available on dvd or vhs right now and it seems like forever since the last time I even heard of it playing some where.
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with .... Shelley Duvall>>
W/Scott Glenn/Nashville
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Moira,
Excellent list. I would add:
The Men Who Made the Movies by Richard Schickel (out of print but available from Abebooks)
Print the Legend: The Life of John Ford by Scott Eyman
Get Happy by Gerald Clarke
Conversations with Billy Wilder by Cameron Crowe
The Movies by Richard Griffith and Arthur Mayer
The RKO Story by Richard Jewell
Sin in Soft Focus by Mark Viera
Naming Names by Victor Navasky
An Open Book by John Huston
Picture by Lillian Ross (about the making of Red Badge of Courage)
The Studio by John Gregory Dunne
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Fred,
The cable cars that you refer to is really "Angels Flight" which was a funicular (two counterbalanced cars that ran up and downhill) that transported patrons from the bottom (Downtown Los Angeles) up to Bunker Hill (and visa versa). It was billed as the world's shortest railway. In the mid-1960s, Los Angeles tore down the homes and flophouses of Bunker Hill and Angel's Flight was put into storage.
A few years ago it was restored and ran daily until an accident that ended in one or two of the passengers being killed. The restored archway is still standing but the restored cars are back in storage.
The house used in Sunset Blvd sat on the corner of Wilshire and Crenshaw. The house did not have a pool so the studio had one dug for the film. The house and pool were used a few years later in Rebel Without a Cause. The house was torn down in the mid-1960s and Getty Oil built a large office building on its footprint. The building now belongs to some other business.
The house in Double Indemnity is still standing though it is not located in Los Feliz but a few miles north.
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Did they actually destroy some of the films?>>
BHF1940,
After 1934 and the implimentation of the Hays Code and the Breen Office, studios would all too often recut the pre-code films for release on the lower half of a double bill.
Rather than dupe the negative to make the changes, they would cut the original negative. This is how many scenes ended up becoming lost. Some of the original precodes and some of the lost scenes found their way into private collections.
But here in the States, all too often the offending scenes were lost for good. However, sometimes, some of the original prints are found in European archives as the Europeans were not as offended by the racy dialogue, suggestive attire and all the things that make pre-codes so watchable.
Also, original prints have turned up at end of the line cities where the projectionist would just store the film rather than the studio paying to have it sent back.
It becomes quite a treasure hunt at times trying to find lost footage.
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Cinesage,
Thanks for the clarification on the Wayne family. I didn't realize that Michael Wayne had left Batjac to his wife, Gretchen.
I can certainly see why Patrick and Ayssa would want it back under John Wayne Enterprises.
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It is, of course, a western remake of the 1939 "Gunga Din."
You may be thinking of "Soldiers Three" which showed a couple of months ago. (But then, I don't think I've seen "Sergeants Three" recently enough to recall any of it.) >>
I remember Sergeants Three being a remake of Gunga Din, with the Rat Pack of course, as well.
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GWTW,
I'm not Mongo and I have not seen the filler but it sure sounds like a carbon arc projector.
Jon Parker and Mongo can probably best describe it but back in the day it was how the lamps in projectors were lit. A projectionist had to be very careful because the film they were usually running was nitrate and flammable.
Anymore Cavette interviews to be broadcast??
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As for the boxed sets and the theory that these new movies are for the "bottom dollar," if anyone DOESN'T need more money, isn't it Ted Turner? Or did he sell TCM?? >>
Ms. Here,
Yes, in fact, Ted did sell the TCM library (and I believe TCM itself but am not sure about that one). When he did the merger with Time-Warner a few years back, the TCM library (and possibly the channel) were part of that merge. The film library is now under the care of Warner Brothers.
For the first time in decades, the Warner film library has been reunite. The Warner/TCM library consists of All Warner Bros films, All RKO films and MGM films until 1986.
This makes it an incredibly large, if not the largest, studio film library with thousands and thousands of titles.
Does anyone have any idea how many films are in this library?
Anyways, its sheer size makes it impossible for all the titles to be available on a digital format that TCM can run, much less DVD.
Film preservation and restoration is a costly, time and labor intensive job. A studio can spend years restoring one feature. Disney spent years restoring Bambi. Warner Bros is currently trying to find the lost footage from "The Sea Wolf" before releasing it on DVD or releasing it for screening.
We have to remember that the studios can make more money selling box sets of old and new television shows, then they can selling DVDs or DVD box sets of classic films.
As much as we hate to admit it around here, we are a niche market.
One of the reasons Paramount does not release many of their classic films (well, the ones they haven't sold to Universal) on DVD (which means they likely aren't on a digital format either) is because they always fall back on the excuse that the DVDs did so bad selling that there is not enough market demand for their classic films. When they do release some of their classic films it is usually a bare bones, no extras disc and the film usually has not been restored.
Universal is only recently beginning to shine a light into their vaults and releasing some of their classic films (usually the ones they acquired from Paramount). But they are now owned by GE, so they take a very slow, bottom line approach to their releases.
Fox, for some reason, is mainly interested in restoring their classic Rogers and Hammerstein musicals, then their other musicals and then their classic films. It does help that they own their library and have their own movie channel as an outlet for the DVDs.
Warner Bros is the top of the pyramid when it comes to film restoration, preservation and moving their library to a digital format. Unfortunately, as noted above, the library is huge and because they tend to do their jobs well, it takes time.
But as I have noted here before, just because a film once existed is no guarantee that the film exists today or that the elements (both picture and sound) are in any shape to be transferred. And then there are rights issues.
But that's another post.
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