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Kyle,
Here in the Southland, Army may have been on the Channel 5 telecast. Would be worth a call to the station to see if they know.
The other thing might be to google Army Archerd and Oscar telecast. Would probably bring up hits from his previous years and what station he was part of.
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So Fred, I'm hoping this means you would be okay with TCM showing "Fugitive from a Chain Gang", "Sullivans Travels", "Cool Hand Luke" and "O, Brother" back to back one evening so we could appreciate "O, Brother's" cinematic roots?

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George Feltenstein oversees the Home Entertainment Division of Warner Brothers. He works closely with the team that does the heavy lifting in terms of restoration and preservation. He worked as one of the editors on all three of the "That's Entertainment" films back in the mid-1970s and has been instrumental in Warner Bros great track record regarding their film libraries.
There may be rights issues involved with "Dawn of Sound" that has kept it from being released on DVD. I am thinking the "Dawn of Sound" is a retrospective documentary on the transistion from silent films to talkies. If that's the case, it probably has film clips from films from a variety of film studio libraries, archives and possibly private collectors. The contract probably only covered then known media. If that's the case, the contracts would have to be renegoiatiated to cover DVDs and future media. It was this type of scenario that kept Kevin Brownlow's "Hollywood: A Celebration of American Silent Film" from DVD all these years. Luckily, Brownlow has been able to work out the rights and we should see "Hollywood" DVD boxed sets later this year.
Also, it is not a simple as transferring the laser master to dvd. It would recquire tracking down the original master (probably on betacam) and then doing any restoration work before spending the money to transfer it to digibeta. And then, it would still needs to be built, authored and burned to the DVD master.
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FredCDobbs: I think That 30 minutes would be including the commercials. I have on several occasions tried to watch all the way to the end, without success, the Harry Potter movies. Is it just me because I found them to be quite boring. And they gave one of those the Best Picture Oscar and turned down "Star Wars". Brother!! >>
Albatros,
I don't think any of the Harry Potter films have won the Best Picture Oscar.
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Johnny,
You can probably hear the wails just based on the idea.
But it would be great to watch them back to back and watch how the genre changed over the years. Isn't that what a good movie channel does? Not only entertains us but also gives us the opportunity to learn.
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From "Fugitive on a Chain Gang" to " Brother, Where Art Thou". Would love for TCM to do a night of chain gang films.
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RC,
If you see no other film this season, see "Capote". Having come of age during the time when Truman was everywhere on talk shows, it is the mark of an incredible actor that Phillip Seymour Hoffman from the first frame captures everything about Capote.
It is acting at its best. He and David Stratheirn should share the Oscar this year for "Best Actor".
My Oscar fantasy has "Good Night" or "Capote" winning best picture. "Brokeback" is beautiful but kept me at arms length every second of the way. The other two engaged me from the gate.
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Differences in watching films over the years:
1910s -1950s:
maybe a crap shoot but I will learn something about film making, film history or acting that I may not have considered. Are they all classics? No. Many bad films were made. There are films I readily admit I would never watch again. But there are films I am thankful for being exposed to.
Films from the 60s and 70s:
Incredibly interesting because of the history. The end of the studio system, the inflated budgets, the egos, the missteps. The unexpected surprises from filmmakers and actors. The exhiliration of discovery that the filmmakers and the actors of Hollywood's Golden Age can still take your breath away or take a role so against type that you sit up and take notice.
The final nails in the coffin of the Code and how that new freedom played out. I love watching the changing morals of America through the films being made from the beginning to the 70s. The movies highlight that conflict every step of the way.
Films from the 80s and 90s:
Still great metaphors for who we are and what we hold important. Still important as social history as we watch Hollywood abandon an audience that grew up with films and want to see films in a theatre setting. We are replaced by the all ruling demographic: teenagers. The problem: teenagers typically don't love film and given a choice on a weekend night will choose another option.
Films from the 2000s:
Some are still worth seeing. Others get rated on how many hours of my life I won't be getting back.
Bottom line:
It's all a crapshoot and I still love it.
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from coffedan's post a few days ago and now three pages back:
At times, TCM has had more modern films in the schedule than it does now. It has also had fewer of those films. But as much as the numbers go up and down, the programmers do maintain some basic proportions. The modern films have always been part of the programming mix, right from the very beginning, but they have never overwhelmed the rest of the schedule. There are a few exceptions, but TCM has kept to showing modern films that are at least 10 years old (the most recent film in this month's schedule is from 1996), which I think is distance enough for determining a "classic.">>
from rickspade:
My own feeling is that while TCM seems to have morphed lately into something less than a ?classic? classic movie channel, it?s still so far superior to any alternative, how can anyone really complain.>>
The whole point is that TCM has not recently morphed, changed or abandoned it's original intent. It is actually holding the line, not sliding down any slippery slope.
While some viewers and posters maintain that TCM has changed the evidence says differently. The evidence shows TCM has tried to be incredibly consistent in the movies it schedules.
As I said earlier in this thread, the ever changing face of technology may be playing a bigger role than we realize in what is actually available in the digital form that TCM can broadcast in, from the teens, twenties and 30s.
But they are out there, every day, swinging for the fences. Is every day a home run in classic films? No, but they are consistently trying to make everyone in the
bleachers happy.
And no matter how you phrase it, that is not an easy job to do. But they keep trying and they keep swinging.
And at the end of the day, that really is what matters most.
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Also, I found the closest thing to a TCM "mission statement" on a 1999 webpage of TCM's history, short as it was then. It begins with this statement: "Turner Classic Movies presents the greatest films of all time, from the '20s through the '80s (emphasis mine) -- featuring the silent screen, international pictures, as well as all of Hollywood's genres -- commercial-free, uninterrupted, 24 hours a day.">>
I think Coffeedan's research says it all. No one has been able to find a better "mission statement" IN WRITING in all these pages of doom and glooom.
Who among us are the fortune tellers? Only time will tell.
Till then all this talk of TCM becoming ACM, Bravo or fill in the blank, is just
that, speculation.
Will the doom and gloomers prevail or will the TCM lover prevail?
Who knows? Obviously none of us.
TCM has NOT become ACM. Despite various posts to the contrary, the evidence shows that TCM has not sold out.
Could TCM show some films less frequently? Yes.
But one thing to keep in mind in all of this is the changing face of technology (much faster than when TCM started out ten years ago) and the ability of studios, their home entertainment divisions, their libraries, and everyone else to try to stay current with broadcast quality.
It's one thing to sit at home on your computer and imagine the perfect movie channel.
The delivery of that idea is a horse of different color.
I give TCM high marks for trying to market to a variety of needs and tastes 24/7.
You can call me a loyalist, but until you show me station doing it 24/7 (which FMC is not doing). uncut, unedited and in the original format, good luck.
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Regarding Richard Widmark,
Saw him two years ago dining in the patio section of "El Coyote", a popular Mexican restaurant here in Los Angeles.
He was still looking good.
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Mongo,
Don't forget that John Williams also scored such Irwin Allen series as "Lost in Space" and such Irwin Allen disaster films (thank you Airport) as "Poseidon Adventure" and "Towering Inferno" before he sky rocketed to fame with "Jaws" and "Star Wars"
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"Without a schedule for Pacific Time, I rarely watch the channel anymore.">>
The schedule does have times for PST. Has had since the changeover. Am I missing something?
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The Moon is Blue is usually the one film cited for applying nails in the Code. Otto Preminger directed William Holden and David Niven in this somewhat frank look at relationships in 1953.
Released without the Code's Approval, it opened the door for filmmakers and screenwriters to explore mature adult themes. The initial response to the film was long lines and paying customers. Everyone took notice.
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The Back to the Future series was produced by Universal so TCM would have to rent those movies.
Both "Clockwork" and "Blazing Saddles" are Warner movies. Those movies are not in the TCM Library of films so they would have to be rented as well.
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The Dead End Kids were in "Dead End" with Joel McCrea, Sylvia Sydney and Bogie.
They also appear with Cagney in "Angels with Dirty Faces"
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River,
Yes the feature is still here. When doing a search, you have to be sure to click on site. The default is setting is for the database but you can change that with a click of your mouse.
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The sad reality is that Universal will make more $$ on the sales of DVD sets of their old television shows than they will make on sales of DVDs of their classic films.
Film restoration is expensive and requires someone at the helm with an understanding and love of film, film history and the library under their care. That is why Warner Bros is the one studio actively preserving, restoring and releasing their classics. But George Feltenstein and crew at Warner Bros are the exception not the norm for most studios Home Entertainment Departments.
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They were originally released by Columbia Studios. Columbia's library is now owned by Sony.
The movies in the database include films from all studios not just what is available in the TCM library. The studio that released the film is credited about half way down the page when you do a search for a film title.
TCM would have to rent them if they want to show them.
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The Glass Key is a Paramount Picture but it's pre-1949 so it's owned by Universal. Since the film is not in the TCM library, it would have to be rented and would have to be available on a digital format that TCM could broadcast.
It's possible that it would be easy to rent but it's also possible that there may be mitigating reasons why it hasn't been shown.
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I guess you've been in hog heaven lately watching the trash that TCM decided we need to see. >>
Sweetbaby,
All Iloveperth said was that she was looking forward to Roger Rabbit because it held a special memory related to her family. You attacked her on that choice and then became angry because it did not fit your defiinition of a TCM classic.
Feburary is TCM Salutes the Oscars and Roger Rabbit fits that definition. On a broader scale , to attack someone because a film in the schedule holds a deep memory or is important because of something outside your definitition of classic is just plain rude.
Classic Films have different meanings for different people. What is classic to you, what is classic to me may vary. Many people define classic by the moments they share with family or a loved one.
It may not be your watching pleasure but give the poster credit for appreciating that the film was an homage to an era that has passed into history.
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As far as I know, Mississippi Gambler still hasn't been released. I bought a copy of it on ebay and it was fine for me.
Unfortunately, it wasn't a 20th Century Fox film - Power was one of the producers, I believe, so it won't be in the Tyrone Power collection that Fox is putting out in April.
I wish TCM would put MORE of an effort to get some of his films on.>>
If Powers was the producer on the film then it may be tied up because of righs issues.
On anothe note, aren't the majority of his films from 20th Century Fox?
If so, since they have their own movie channel, FMC, that probably puts a major crimp in TCM being able to rent movies from their library.
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Huntress,
Robert Ryan would be terrific. He can be evil, he can be good, he can be old and doing the job because he needs the money. Any role, he was great.
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Six years old and bio-dad took me to see "To Kill a Mockingbird". The ending stayed with me. Didn't realize it until I saw the movie again when I was twelve.
"Dumbo" is the second movie I remember seeing because of the mad elephant sequence.
"Old Yeller", too.

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Coffeedan,
Were Bond and Wayne on the USC football team at the same time?