lzcutter
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> I know that the TCM staff makes a lot of mistakes, but in TCM Remembers? No excuse for that.
Being a working editor I know first hand that mistakes can happen, especially when you are under pressure to get a piece on air.
TCM realized the error and quickly corrected the dates.
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Author and Archivist Steve Bingen is coming to the Silver Screen Oasis!
We are pleased to announce that Steve Bingen, co-author of the popular MGM: Hollywood?s Greatest Backlot, will be our July Guest Star joining us for the weekend of July 20th.
M-G-M: Hollywood?s Greatest Backlot is the illustrated history of the soundstages and outdoor sets where Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, the premier Hollywood dream factory, produced many of the world?s most famous films. During its Golden Age, the studio employed the likes of Greta Garbo, Fred Astaire, and Clark Gable, and produced innumerable iconic pieces of cinema such as *The Wizard of Oz*, *Singin? in the Rain*, and *Ben-Hur*.
The sprawling studio is located not in Hollywood but the bustling suburb of Culver City. Of all the dream factories, MGM had one of the most prolific and largest backlots. It was home to Tarzan?s Africa, Andy Hardy?s neighborhood, the turn of the century town of *Meet Me in St. Louis*, the Cotton Blossom of *Showboat* drifted down the backlot?s river and the Paris of *American in Paris*, along with countless other films that are considered classic films.
It is estimated that a fifth of all films made in the United States prior to the 1970s were shot at MGM studios, meaning that the gigantic property was responsible for hundreds of iconic sets and stages, often utilizing and transforming minimal spaces and previously used props, to create some of the most recognizable and identifiable landscapes of modern movie culture.
All of this happened behind closed doors, the backlot shut off from the public in a veil of secrecy and movie magic. M-G-M: Hollywood?s Greatest Backlot highlights this fascinating film treasure by recounting the history, popularity, and success of the MGM company through a tour of its physical property. The book is filled with never before seen images of the studio and the backlot.
Our guest, Steven Bingen has also written Warner Bros.: The Stuff That Dreams Are Made Of and has contributed to numerous books, documentaries, and magazines. He holds a staff position at Warner Bros. Corporate Archive, aiding in the preservation and management of the studio?s legend and legacy.
With Steven Sylvester, who explored the backlot back in the 1968 and 1975 before it was developed into housing tracts, and Michael Troyan, the author of A Rose for Mrs. Miniver: The Films of Greer Garson, they worked together to produce this book which takes its readers behind that veil of secrecy and explores the history of one of the most beloved studios in the history of Hollywood.
We hope you are as excited about his upcoming visit as we are! So, start thinking of the questions you want answered about that most fabled of dream factories and join us beginning Friday, July 20th for a weekend of studio and film archival history.
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> Who's Rosa?
Rosa Parks, Sepiatone forgot to capitalize the P in her name in his post.
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> That makes three, Andy, Ernie and now Celeste.
And Nora Ephron and Richard Zanuck in that same time frame.
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See this thread- our WebAdmin Michael is aware of the problem and sounds like he has contacted TCM Web about the problem. It will be up to KickApps, not TCM, to fix the problem. But hopefully, that will happen sooner rather than later:
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Michael,
I'm using Firefox 13.0.1 and can access the CFU site and am logged in on the main page when I access it from the Fan Community pull-down menu above.
However, when I click on Blogs, it takes me to the main blog page but I am no longer logged in. When I go to log-in again, I get the Certificate Revoked message.
The same thing happens with IE.
Hope this helps.
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Barb,
?Bon le quatorze juillet!? and ?Joyeux le quatorze juillet!?
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Michael,
I'm using Firefox 13.0.1 and can access the CFU site and am logged in on the main page when I access it from the Fan Community pull-down menu above.
However, when I click on Blogs, it takes me to the main blog page but I am no longer logged in. When I go to log-in again, I get the Certificate Revoked message.
Hope this helps.
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The security certificate has expired. It's not unusual.
There's a thread in Hot Topics about it and someone posted a thread in the Tech Forum.
Hopefully, Michael (TCMWebAdmin) has seen the thread and alerted the web team who covers the CFU.
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> TCM should screen the interview he did for the Fox Legacy show.
As noted below, TCM Original Productions has been working on a documentary about Richard Zanuck which they plan to air on the channel at a later date.
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Arturo,
there doesn't seem to be a way to post images from Ebay auctions.
The regular image code doesn't work with them.
Not sure why.
Edited by: lzcutter on Jul 14, 2012 10:54 AM
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Rich,
I love your recap more than the poster which is a difficult choice because the poster is hysterical.
Who comes to a fight bringing only their fists when their opponent brings a big wrench?
He obviously isn't from Chicago.
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Producer Richard Zanuck died this afternoon. He was 77.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/producer-richard-d-zanuck-dead-349085
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It's not uncommon for certificates to expire and it goes unnoticed.
That's why I suggested posting about it in the Tech section and/or PMing Michael about it so that he can alert the Web team and they can get it taken care of and get the CFU site back up.
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Jeffrey,
It looks like the certificate has expired. It would probably be worth posting about this down in the Tech thread and/or PM'ing Michael, the WebAdmin, about it.
Once the certificate is reinstated, the site should be accessible again and the material there.
Worst case scenario, they may have to use a back-up copy of the site which could mean that the most recent material might not be there.
But that would only be the case if they had to use a back-up copy.
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> I'm not questioning the existence of the TCM board members opposed to showing these films, I am just here to say that why should their opinion carry more weight than others.
I'm not saying (or implying) that they do, especially as evidenced by the fact that modern films have been part of the TCM line-up since they debuted in April, 1994.
I was merely pointing out that on this message board, the topic can be (and often is) very volatile and very raucous.
Compared to the overall fan base of TCM, the posters here (all of us) are a small group within that larger group but that doesn't keep posters from having opinions and posting them.
While TCM may consider all points of view, that doesn't necessarily translate to one group carrying more weight than the other.
Classic films and modern films have been part of TCM's schedule, as I said, from the beginning.
That hasn't changed and TCM has now been on the air for over 18 years.
Except here where some posters continue to believe that prior to a few years ago, TCM never showed modern films and/or that modern films on the schedule means that TCM is becoming AMC.
Your mileage, of course, may vary.
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> I would welcome some newer films introduced to the lineup. They have aired numerous modern films in the past so I was questioning why a Jim Jarmusch film in particular would send the cognoscenti into a veritable tizzy as you claim it would.
Raquel,
I'm not claiming just to be contrary. Here's some history:
These are some of the threads about the debate of modern films on TCM from just this year:
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8654078
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8641265'>http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8641265'>http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8641265'>http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8641265
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8650270
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8612564
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8641265
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?threadID=163294&start=75&tstart=0
The message board archive is filled with similar threads for every year since these message boards debuted back in the early 2000s.
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> Why not set up an area on the TCM website where anyone can upload a video of themselves explaining the same thing regarding classic movies...and then TCM can pick out the good ones and use them on-air?
TCM tried something similar a few years ago when they ran a contest with the winner being able to be a Guest Programmer for an evening.
The contest was fraught with problems from people who used copyrighted material (even though the rules said not to and TCM has to take those copyrighted images/audio very seriously because the studios take them seriously), to those who didn't include releases (which TCM would need if they wanted to do anything with the video) to angry posters who felt the contest was rigged and couldn't understand why they weren't chosen.
I don't think TCM has attempted another one.
To your suggestion, I think one of the biggest problems would probably be the quality of the video. Not all video is broadcast quality.
By doing the interstitials at the Film Festival, TCM probably finds it easier to do and it doesn't require extra budget money to bring the fan to Atlanta or Los Angeles to film.
The video crews are at the Festival, the fans are at the Festival, two birds, one stone kind of thing.
Just my two cents.
Your mileage, as always, may vary.
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> And what is so disquieting to you about running Mystery Train (1989), Kyle?
Raquel,
Kyle didn't say he had a problem with TCM and Mystery Train. As this quote from his post says:
> "And I don't think the TCM audience is ready for Jim Jarmusch on a Sunday afternoon."
he is referring to that group of the TCM message board audience that might not welcome the film on the channel.
If you've read any of the numerous threads about how whether or not TCM should air modern films, you'd see that Kyle's reticence is grounded in the history of that very vocal group who post here.
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> I know it is very easy to make judgements on the actions of others, but don't you think Flynn would have looked in the mirror and said to himself, "Look what all this alcohol and drug use is doing to me, and would have gotten help?
The sad thing is that too many people with addiction problems never have that "aha" moment or if they do, find it impossible to give up the addiction. Back in the day, it was believed that sending them to a sanatorium to dry out would put them on the straight and narrow. But without treating the emotional reasons, they rarely were able to overcome the addictions.
It's never as easy as one would think or hope to get an addict to give up their crutch(es). The first step is them admitting they have a problem *and* that they want to do something about that problem.
Friends and family tried to help Errol, tried to help Judy and tried to help many others but unless the person with the addiction(s) admits there is a problem and they want help to overcome it, all the rest of us can do is watch as they continue to spiral down.
"For it is true we can seldom help those closest to us. Either we don't know what part of ourselves to give or, more often than not, the part we have to give is not wanted. And so it is those we live with and should know who elude us. But we can still love them - we can love completely without complete understanding."
― Norman Maclean, A River Runs Through It and Other Stories
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> I am just curious, how does TCM decide which "average Joe or Josephine" (well some really aren't all that average) gets to tell how they got interested in classic films or what these old films mean to them?
For the last few years TCM has been filming these types of interstitials at the annual Film Festival.
People who attend the Festival are various ages and some like to dress for the occasion (thus, the woman in red you described).
TCM has a variety of camera crews covering the Festival and they will walk up to people in the lobby of the Roosevelt, poolside, standing in line for a screening, etc and ask if someone to be on camera talking about the movies they love.
And sometimes, TCM will edit three or four people into a longer promo talking about how much fun they are having at the Film Festival and run those to help promote the Festival.
Some of the longer TCM Fanatic spots are planned and shot while the crews are in Los Angeles (the TCM Fanatic piece on westerns and possibly the one on Film Noirs) featuring historians and authors, etc.
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Chief,
It was actually a combination of the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine and Google that produced the best results. I was very surprised at being able to find some of the material.
His 100th birthday was just days after Memorial Day in 2003 but I couldn't find any record of a birthday salute to Hope that day/evening. Other themed programming like SOTM may have precluded TCM from having a birthday salute to Hope.
But they certainly made up for it in the months that followed.
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Chief,
The Wayback Machine is a wonderful thing. TCM did have a tribute to Hope on July 31st, 2003:
Films included (all times EST)
11AM *The Road To Hong Kong* (1962)
1PM *A Global Affair* (1964)
2:30PM *Call Me Bwana* (1963)
4:15PM *I'll Take Sweden* (1965)
6:00PM *Bachelor In Paradise* (1961)
In December of 2003, TCM offered a longer tribute to Hope with this roster of films:
*My Favorite Blonde* (1942)
*My Favorite Brunette* (1947)
*Princess and the Pirate* (1944)
*Road to Bali* (1952)
*Road to Morocco* (1942)
*Road to Singapore* (1940)
*Road to Utopia, The* (1946)
*Road to Zanzibar* (1941)
*The Facts of Life* (1960)
*The Princess and the Pirate* (1944)
*They Got Me Covered* (1943)
He was also included in the year-end TCM Remembers montage that included Gregory Peck and Katherine Hepburn along with a number of classic stars, directors, writers and other crew personnel.
In August 2004, Hope was honored with his first SUTS day featuring 24 hours of Hope and his movies.
Anyone wondering AMC had the leases on the following Bob Hope movies tied up for their own tribute on July 30th:
7:10AM *Bob Hope:The Road To The Top* (1998)
8:10AM *How To Commit Marriage* (1969)
10:05AM *Paris Holiday* (1958)
12:15AM *Road To Bali* (1952)
2:10PM *The Seven Little Foys* (1955)
4:05PM *Son of Paleface* (1952)
6:05PM *The Private Navy of Sgt. O'Farell* (1968)
Lastly, there's nothing in the message board archives that indicates any outrage or disappointment in the TCM tributes to Bob Hope.
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> It always does...we've already lost Andy Griffith, now Ernie...
Nora Ephron died a week or so before Andy.
What is going on at the CFU?
in PROBLEMS with Registration / Log In
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> You claimed this would be fixed on Monday. There is no excuse for any of this. Please get your house in order.
Jeffrey,
Michael did not say the problem would be fixed today. He said that all he could do is make the proper people (in this case not TCM but KickApps) aware of the problem. He has done there. It is on this third party, KickApps, to fix the certificate problem.
I know you are worried about your material and that you miss the CFU but Michael is not in charge of the CFU nor did he design it. All he can do is make sure make KickApps aware of the problem.
Which he has done:
He posted this in the other thread in the Tech section:
"I have no ETA for a fix, but the problem is being addressed."