lzcutter
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fancagney,
You can set up the correct recording times by manually setting up your DVR to record the Saturday serials.
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Ron Howard remembers Andy Griffith:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-st-0704-ron-howard-20120704,0,4710496.story
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> Was it just me, or was there absolutely no connection/chemistry between RO and Spike Lee last night?
I thought there was a connection but I was surprised at how nervous Lee seemed to be. He had a hard time talking about the films but when he did, he was able to make that connection with Robert O.
I thought it was a good reminder that not everyone can sit across from Robert O and talk eloquently about films that matter to them. Some folks, even famous folks, get a bit tongue-tied.
And that's okay with me. I like it when the guest programmers get a bit tongue-tied. Makes them a bit more human in that regard, at least to me.
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> If you have to reinvent yourself, you are killing yourself. Ranse was attempting to be a man he wasn't and he would have been a dead one without Doniphon. In the new, civilized West, Doniphon was no longer needed. A man who is no longer needed is a dead one.
> It's a huge sacrifice when you give up yourself for the sake of others. What Doniphon does is all for Hallie. And he knows he's not to get anything in return for it. Now that's a supreme sacrifice.
Frank,
Dam* yer eyes, you made me tear up just reading your take on Tom, Hallie, Ranse and Liberty.
Good job, Frankie, good job.
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While Kilmer had the more flamboyant take on Doc in his portrayal in *Tombstone*, I think Quaid stole the whole movie in *Wyatt Earp*.
It was a major comeback role for Quaid coming off a string of bad choices and drug problems. He immersed himself in the character of Doc and delivered a full-bodied, humorous and emotionally moving portrayal.
It just lacked the jaunty fun that Kilmer brought to the same role.
I like them both in their portrayal of Doc and feel that each actor brings something to the table in their respective films. For me it doesn't always have to be an either/or.
Your mileage, as always, may vary.
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> What do you know about "hold overs"?
Probably not as much as I should. I do know that unlike today's market where movies come and go so quickly, back then (heck even into the early 1970s) movies would be held over by "popular demand". *The Godfather* played at the same theater in Las Vegas for a year when it was released.
I'd have to check the interview at work, but I believe *Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs* was held over for multiple weeks after it's initial run because patrons were still lined up around the block to see the film. The success of *Snow White* kept the Disney studio from closing for good which likely would have happened had the film flopped. Disney had invested everything into the film which ran very much over budget.
Disney had similar luck with *Steamboat Willie* when it was released back in 1928. In a situation similar to *Snow White*, the success of *Steamboat Willie* kept the flagging Disney studio alive to produce more cartoons, shorts and paved the way for *Snow White*.
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> So Selznick no doubt knew that something as grand as GWTW, that had obeyed the production code, would have a long shelf-life.
Since we're talking re-releases, something to keep in mind is that the film wasn't re-released every year.
From a post I did a few years ago regarding the color of the film:
A 1954 re-release where the color was much more saturated per Selznick's instructions and without Kalmus' input.
A 1961 re-release with saturated color and mag sound. The mag sound is now prone to vinegar syndrome. This was the 100th anniversary of the start of the Civil War and a reissue was done to commerate the date according to press releases from that time. Others say it was re-issued because *The Ten Commandments* had surpassed *GWTW* as the top box office film of all time and MGM put it back in circulation to maintain its #1 status. Is said to have been made from the 1954 re-issue master neg.
4 A 1967 re-issue in Eastman Color and blown up to 1:85. Was said to be nothing special. Others maintain that it was made from the 1954 re-issue master neg.
5 A circa 1974 reissue.
6 A 1989 50th anniversary reissue that many refer to as "infamous" and "toned down" in terms of color. Is said not to look like any of the other prints. Some say it was intentionally printed that way on orders from higher up the food chain.
A 1997 reissue which was an underscanned frame, in which the image was printed slightly within the flat Academy frame so that modern multiplex projectionists, unfamiliar with the old 1.33: 1 aspect ratio, wouldn't have to struggle to adjust their projectors to accomodate the alien frame shape. The smaller image allowed them to project the film exactly as they would for a non-anamorphic 1.85 print, requiring only a minor adjustment to the screen's black scrims.
The master used for this reissue was the "infamous" 1989 master.
The recent WHV DVD boxed set (2005) is said to be the best of the transfers since 1954 but often what happens with artifacts and such are the legacy of previous printing and restoration.
The latest restoration (for the 70th anniversary and likely on Blu) was released two years ago, 2010.
So, while Selznick knew it would have a long shelf life, MGM tended to re-release it rather judiciously so as to keep its cache up.
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> I don't think anyone was that upset about it. Folks knew that eventually TCM would get around to it, which they did.
That's not, unfortunately, the case all the time. Honoring a star who has recently passed away usually is the cause for much turmoil on these boards as posters debate (sometimes argue) over how quickly a tribute can and should be done. Some believe that it should be as quickly as possible, some believe that it shouldn't be ruled by how quickly but should take longer so as to get a wider range of films (though none of us knows how long a studio like Fox, Sony or Universal could hold up that process with negotiations) and there are some who don't like having the schedule disrupted to honor a deceased star.
No matter how TCM handles the situation there will be vocal opponents here who aren't happy with the staff's decisions or their choices.
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> I would expect Ron to be at the services or at some later tribute.
It would have to be at some later tribute as Andy Griffith was buried within hours of his death, per his wishes. Didn't leave any time for any one to travel, especially cross country on short notice, to be at the burial.
> those certain parts of the past for Andy could never be so completely torn away, as Andy always knew what he would be best remembered for. > There can never be any getting away from what is that precise memory of him, forever to be embedded within our minds and parts of our heart. > > He remains that beloved, respected and clever county sheriff, living in a town that for the most part was a fantasy, but one that spoke so clearly, witty and with wonderful overtones of humor to a generation of viewers that will never, absolutely ever forget "Sheriff Andy."
And the fact that he and Ron Howard weren't able to work together (for whatever the reason) since those days doesn't diminish that or their friendship.
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I wish I could wear that hairstyle of Liz's. It looks so easy to care for.
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> The TV reunions simply don?t really count, once Ron broke away from his television mold. This is a situation that has an overcast of disappointment.
MP,
You'll forgive me but you seem to be the one that is disappointed that the two never collaborated once Ron Howard's career moved towards directing.
There are other viable reasons beyond a rift between the two- as someone noted it could have been simply scheduling.
Also, it could have been the lack of the right role for Griffith in one of Howard's films.
It could be that the two remained friends just not to the degree that you wish that they had. Think of the friendships in our own lives and people who played important roles in the past, may not be major parts of our lives now. I know that's true for me. People I was very close to forty years ago and thought I would always be close to are still a part of my life but not to the degree they were in the 1970s.
A good part of that is geographical. Another factor is that as I matured other people became more of a priority. That certainly doesn't mean that I have a rift with the friends I knew and loved back then. It just means life has a way of evolving whether we want it to or not and part of that evolution is that some friends remain with you throughout your life and others don't. And it's often no one's fault, just the way time and life plays out. Each friend's life changes over the course of time whether they want it to or not and maybe it's enough to be thankful for the time they had together rather than dwell on the might have been.
> Ron has on occasion mentioned this importance of Andy in shaping him in some way, yet it would have been something very special to have them reunited for the big-screen.
Yes, it would have. But just because it didn't happen doesn't necessarily mean the two had a falling out. It could just be that life and fate had other journeys for them to take.
But as always, your mileage may vary.
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> there would be no INIGO
Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!
I tear up big time when he confronts his nemesis.
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> Stop typing your replies in all UPPERCASE letters like that. It's known as shouting, and is very difficult to read (and just generally annoying).
He knows. People have been telling him to stop since he joined in 2004. He doesn't like silent films, never has. Loves to post about how much he dislikes them. It seems he just likes to stop by every few months and try to annoy people. His opinions and his posting style never change.
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> Stop typing your replies in all UPPERCASE letters like that. It's known as shouting, and is very difficult to read (and just generally annoying).
He knows. People have been telling him to stop since he joined in 2004. He doesn't like silent films, never has. Loves to post about how much he dislikes them.
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> Ms Cutter.. is that pic of AB from Zorro??
It is, indeed. It's a very fun swashbuckler of a movie and Anthony Hopkins is quite good in it as well. Catherine Zeta-Jones had her breakthrough role in the film.
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> Is this because of a whim on the part of TCM, or because such lists are not extant for every movie?
It's not TCM but the studios who produced the films that determined if there were opening and closing titles.
Most studios had opening credits that listed cast and crew. Some studios over the years occasionally had end titles that listed the characters and the actors who played them or a simple The End closing title.
I think it was the late 1960s or early 1970s (may have started with *American Graffitti* ), that end credits as we know them became the standard.
There are, of course, exceptions to that. *Around the World in Eighty Days*, *Citizen Kane* and others had no opening credits except for the title card and had the credits at the end of the films.
Edited by: lzcutter because their does not mean there
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> Kyle, your post was about the Liberty Bell - its symbolic meaning or was it something else?
Based on the spelling of the title of this thread: This Liberty Belle Is A Beauty- I took the thread to be more about the beautiful belle (Vera-Ellen, I believe) who posed in the first picture than about the Liberty Bell itself.
According to the dictionary:
Belle: a young woman who is the most charming and beautiful of several rivals
Bell: a hollow instrument of cast metal, typically cup-shaped with a flaring mouth, suspended from the vertex and rung by the strokes of a clapper, hammer, or the like.
> If yout post was about something else then people, please be careful how one titles threads.
Based on those definitions, the title of the thread (with the accompanying photo) seems quite apt.
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> As for Ron, once having become one of the block-buster directors of motion pictures, he?s never had anything so definite to say over this issue. Perhaps it was just a silent understanding between the two that they had both moved on towards a very different meridian in their careers. I do expect Ron will have much to say about his relationship with Andy in the coming days.
It could have been something as simple as the right part and scheduling. Not everything in Hollywood is about bad feelings between two people. Ron Howard has talked repeatedly about his days of working with Griffith and others on the show. He and Griffith have appeared together on screen for reunions.
And Ron Howard issued a supportive statement yesterday within hours of hearing about Griffith's passing.
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Barb,
He's very good (and drool-worthy) in *Evita*. I saw Mandy Patinkin in the role on stage at the Dorothy Chandler in the City of Brake Lights along with Patty LaPone a thousand years ago and didn't think anyone else could do that role as well. I was wrong.
Antonio is also wonderful in *The Mask of Zorro*. Both that and *Evita* are favorites of mine and MrCutter.
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> When you watch a movie with Franchot Tone, do your sweet turtles pull their little heads in?
The oldest baby loves to watch tv. She likes movies with George. But I think Franchot would scare her.
Hell, he scares me most of the time.
If you ever get the chance, watch *I Love Trouble*. Glenda Farrell steals the move from Tone and she's great as his wise-cracking, long suffering secretary.
Instead of George, will this guy do:
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Barb,
Forget the turtle, there's always this guy:
I bet Joan Crawford would agree. And my babies must never know I compared them to Franchot Tone. Ssshh!
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Hey Barb,
Should you and mom found yourselves under siege from those pesky strange bugs or animals that frequent Florida, maybe one of these guys can help:
Oh wait, that's a turtle, never mind.
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Barb,
Here's hoping that you and BronxMom are staying cool and have a terrific 4th of July.
Maybe this guy can help:
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HollywoodFan,
Unless you are the author of the website (see the link below), if you cut and paste written material from other websites when writing here, it is considered good web etiquette to acknowledge where you cut and pasted the material from. (much like you would footnote if you were writing a book),
In this case, posters should know that your bio on Jack Pierce came from here:
http://causeandfx.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/hollywood-make-up-legends-jack-pierce/
Ernest Borgnine dead at age 95
in General Discussions
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Pike Bishop: What would you do in his place? He gave his word.
Dutch Engstrom: He gave his word to a railroad.
Pike Bishop: It's his word.
Dutch Engstrom: That ain't what counts! It's who you give it to!
---William Holden and Ernest Borgnine, The Wild Bunch.
Here's hoping that "Dutch" is hanging around the bar tonight with "Pike: and the rest of his buddies from *The Wild Bunch*. Should be a raucous night in heaven tonight.