lzcutter
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Thanks to Joe's Birthday thread, it made me thing of this one:
*Flower Drum Song* with Nancy Kwan and/or James Shigeta to talk about the film!
I'd love to see it on the big screen.
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> So May 21st is Sally Field night...is she a guest programmer that night?
As Kyle noted in a post earlier this evening, Sally Field, a previous Guest Programmer, is being honored.
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> Sincerity or Sarcasm regarding our Mormon Brnthers Professor?
Not at all. For years (and I mean going back to the early days of this message board, the early 2000s), there has been a poster with various monikers who posts here every few months asking that TCM show films starring Donny and Marie Osmond such as *I Married Wyatt Earp* and *The Wild Women of Chastity Gulch*.
I would bet good odds that a Z-film buff like Scsu was talking about that and not trying to politicize a thread that has been debated here since the very beginning of these boards.
In fact, Rover27 started an almost identical named thread about this subject back in 2008.
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?threadID=120894&start=25&tstart=0
It's all there in the archives including the debates on this subject dating back to the beginning.
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> i worry every time tcm shows films made later than 1970. I hope TCM doesn't lose it's indentity like other channels did.
Many people who come here cite the same fear. The problem is that the fear is just that, a fear that has no basis in fact. Even after *18 years* of being on the air, TCM shows no real signs of moving in that direction.
TCM doesn't have commercials, and, as has been shown in previous posts, they are not showing a predominance of post-1970s films at the expense of classic studio era films and they are not abandoning their original mission which is to showcase films from all decades.
TCM includes the classics, the b-films, the serials, the cult films and the z-grade films, etc.
To TCM, all films are important, no matter who the star, the director or the lack thereof.
They program for all of us.
The classic lovers, the cult lovers, the sci-fi lovers, the serial lovers, the 1970s lovers, etc, because they understand that all films, no matter what genre, no matter what type, are important to us because film has the ability to entertain us as well as show us about who we were as a society, as a culture, as a nation as well as how far we've come and how far we still have to go.
Film has the power to transcend generations and TCM more than any other network understands, appreciates and applauds that power.
One thing that anyone who has watched the channel for many years has to understand is that there was a time when much of what TCM showed was new to many of its viewers because they were debuting films that hadn't seen been featured in an uncut, commercial free environment since they were last seen in a movie theater.
TCM brought those films to us and they still do. But like any long-term relationship, the newness is off the vine. If a relationship is to survive long-term, change has to occur. It cannot stay the same or that relationship will die.
Adding to the dilemma, after years of video-tape masters being the standard-bearer of airing films, technology changed not only TCM but all of us as we embraced the digital age. It is going to take the studios a while to catch up with that just due to the cost and the size of their film libraries.
Added to that, Ted Turner merged his media empire with Time-Warner just as the digital revolution was breaking. Which, in a way, made it possible for us to enjoy more films from other studio libraries because they no longer had the former Turner Film Library to rely on.
TCM has changed over the years by offering more Original Productions, documentaries on Hollywood directors, stars, etc.
It's graphic look has evolved from the 1930s to the 1950s.
But in all this change, it has remained consistent in bringing us the best in film entertainment no matter what the genre or the grade of film. If I want to see cult films or z-grade bad sci-fi films, TCM offers them up each month. If I want the best in studio era glossiness and star machine actors, TCM has that, too. If I want gritty film noirs, great musicals, wonderful westerns and grade-b film of various genres. Guess What? TCM has that, too!
And always has.
24/7 , TCM programs something to catch the imagination if not all of us, at least some of us. And that is what makes TCM successful.
It is the Big Tent of Film. It's not programmed for any one group or any hard time-line. It is programmed for all of us who love film.
As for the programming of rare films late at night or overnight, there are archived threads from the early days of this message board that talk about this and complain about it. In addition, there are Usenet groups such as alt.silent.movies where this has been a topic of discussion dating back to the mid and late 1990s. so it is not a new phenom to TCM programming.
The problem lies more with us and our memories of how we remember it being versus how it really was.
And that is a phenom that is not just regulated to TCM programming but to the way we live our lives.
AMC didn't last 15 years before going to the dark side. Why would TCM abandon the market where they are the king to battle again with a cable network that they bested in the first place?
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The best thing those of us who are DirecTV customers can do is keep calling Direct and asking them to ad TCMHD to their line-up. If they hear from enough of us, hopefully, they will listen.
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Safety film can get vinegar syndrome just as well so just because it smells of vinegar isn't a sure sign it is nitrate film.
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> Funny, she's done at least 2 "Word of Mouths"
Those were likely culled from the interview she did for the Turner Archive Project which is a separate project that was started by Roger Meyer and George Feltenstein when they worked for Turner Entertainment and is now handled by a different group not connected to Turner or TCM.
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> Why hasnt TCM ever had her for a Private Screenings???/ Looks like it's too late now
Hibi,
It wasn't for lack of asking on TCM's part. Ms. O'Hara turned down their requests.
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> I know that horse I'm flogging is dead, but the fact that the thread about this exceptional film has already fizzled down to page 2 is proof to me of the lack of interest even "classic" movie fans, at least American ones, have for British films.
MsW,
Just throwing it out there but traffic around here at TCM City has been very sparse the last few days. It could be that with the warmer weather people are spending more time away from their computers, with school terms coming to an end, graduations and such more people are involved n family activities, Mother's Day celebrations, etc or a combination of all of the above but people are spending less time here and posting less.
It may have more to do with that and less to do with posters here not having an interest in British films.
Or not. Your mileage may vary.
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Based on his posts, two more post-1960s films that Dobbsy likes are *Apocalypse Now* and *The French Lieutenant's Wife*
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Not sure if they are in the Signature Collection but *The Roaring Twenties* ( a great gangster film that co-stars Bogie and Gladys George) and *Footlight Parade* (a nifty musical with Joan Blondell, Ruby Keeler and Dick Powell about putting on a Broadway show) are two that should be in any Cagney fan's library.
I'd also include *Mr. Roberts* and *Love Me or Leave Me* for the unlikeable side of Cagney.
And *Strawberry Blonde* (with Olivia DeHaviland, Jack Carson and Rita Hayworth) because it is one of his best bittersweet, comedic roles.
Hope that helps.
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> The Boston **** films will never see the light of day
Ahem, TCMfan,
Sony is releasing *Close Call for Boston ***** through the Warner Archives this month. Hopefully, more will follow.
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> For example, if I wanted to know if the Western picture called...."THE RIDE BACK" with Anthony Quinn and William Conrad had been discussed here how would I find out? What button, etc, would I have to press to get the solid information.....Thank you very kindly for any help you can provide me.
On the main forum page, the search function is at the top of the page. Type in the name of the film and that will take you to another page where you can chose a forum from the pull down menu, chose the forum you want to search, ie Westerns. Be sure for date to chose ALL from that particular pull down menu.
Then hit search.
Hope this helps.
Lzcutter, one of those posters with a high number of posts. Why? I've been here for over 7 years.
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> Oooooh. Lynn, these are lovely. O.K. Tell us about the house and the party
The house was just incredible. The house was the site of a holiday party that the LA Conservancy's Modern Committee (the mid-century modern group that I'm a member of) held in 2006.
The partners who lived there back in the mid-2000s took loving care of the house. One of them had put up the $$ to restore the Broadway dept store neon sign that overlooks Hollywood Blvd.
Inside the house (the kitchen was to die for for cooks) was a wall devoted to classic stars with autographs. Also, they had some very early electronics (including a betamax machine, early Commodore computer, etc) on display (MrC was in heaven).
But the house was the star. MrC has always liked mid-century modern design and has always been a big fan of the whole indoor/outdoor living style that is southern California but when he saw this house, he finally understood why I love mid-century modern architecture.
Now, he is a big fan of that architecture as well.
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> Anger knew all the skeletons in everyone's closet but he was never vicious or moralistic.
Clara Bow's son certainly had a different opinion of Anger. And the real evidence backs him much more than Anger when it comes to the gossip about his mother that Anger passed off as fact.
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> Yes. It's not like he researched the book. A lot of it was unsubstantiated gossip.........
In addition to a lot of it being unsubstantiated gossip dressed up as fact, not only a number of "'authors" who deal in dirt instead of fact passed Anger's unsubstantiated gossip as fact, so did way too many readers and that gossip passed into urban legends that are now considered facts.
Case in point, Clara Bow.
It's not just the die-hard fans who cry foul but film historians who have spent the last four decades renouncing Angers' gossip with actual facts.
Unfortunately, the gossip is much memorable to readers than actual facts.
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Barb,
Here's Bob's house in Palm Springs. I'm guessing it's very different architecture from his home in Toluca Lake:
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Barb,
Here's Dinah Shore's Palm Springs home (I bet Burt Reynolds spent some time there):
And Der Bingle's:
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Because when you live in the City of Brake Lights, it helps to have a stylish gas station nearby:
The Union 76 station in Beverly Hills:
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Day or Night:
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Barb,
Most of the homes in Holmby Hills are more traditional but every once in a while an iconoclast changes it up.
Here's Frank's place in Palm Springs:
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> I'm a big fan of mid-century modern. I love those Rat Pack era homes in California -- specifically Palm Springs and Santa Barbara.
Barb,
You would have loved Gary and Rocky Cooper's home in Holmby Hills. MrCutter and I attended a holiday party at the house back in the mid-2000s and the house has been lovingly restored:
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> So? Have either of the subsequent showings (March 23, May 6) been any better/different?
The broadcast this morning was just fine, no dual tracks. Sounded great.
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For those looking for historic sites in Hollywood, still standing and long gone, here's a thread I started for the first TCM Film Festival in 2010:
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?threadID=152178&tstart=0&messageID=8377798#8377798
Despite the losses over the years, there's still plenty of history still standing in Hollywood and in the City of Angels though some of it requires some searching.
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> I mean, AMC kinda sucks. Censored, interrupted, unceasingly bugged. Why in the world is it so popular?
It's not because of the movies that air on AMC or the reruns of *CSI: Miami*.
It's because of it's popular original programming like *Mad Men*, *Breaking Bad*, *Hell on Wheels*, *The Killing* and it's most popular show, *The Walking Dead*.
That's why AMC's numbers are growing.
So what do we think of "American Graffiti"?
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While decades change technically every ten years, the societal and cultural changes do not always follow such strict numerical guidelines.
Example- the 1950s. Culturally and in social terms, the 1950s lasted well into the early 1960s. It wasn't until 1963-1964 that the 1950s started to truly give into the 1960s- fashion, pop culture, music- it all began the turn into what we consider the 1960s.
The 1970s were much the same way, the things we identify with that decade began after the numerical beginning of that decade.
I have often suspected that this sort of change is in our past as well. If you look at 1940-1941, while the decade of the 1940s had begun, the things that we equate with the 1940s didn't really start to happen until 1942 and America's stepped up entry into WWII (which began on Dec. 7th, 1941 but society and culture doesn't turn as quickly as days).
Prior to that, 1940 and 1941 were more akin to the previous decade, the 1930s.
Just my two cents. Of course, your mileage may vary.