lzcutter

> Given that TCM has already posted when the passes will go on sale do you think they will let previous TCM fest. attendees and newsletter registers have privy to purchasing passes earlier? I heard they have done this before, true? I don't think they've done that in the past. What they have done in the past is offer the passes at a slight discount for everyone until the middle of December. But it looks like they aren't offering that this year.

> lz, wasn't the first event around noon time, in Club TCM? It was the presentation of the original slabs from Grauman's (Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks, Sr and Sid Grauman) Countess, Yes, you are right, I had forgotten about that but in reading it seems really bad considering how much I love Doug, Sr!

Just to clarify, this year, the In-n-Out gathering occurred after the *Meet the TCM Staff* panel. The panel was held in Club TCM in the early afternoon (12:30-1:00 start time, I can't remember exactly). We planned the In-n-Out gathering for after the panel to give people who were still traveling to the City of Angels some extra time to get from the airports to the hotel. Everyone was back at the hotel in time to get ready for the official *Meet and Greet* party at 4:30 as well as the red carpet walk for Spotlight pass holders. The plans for an unofficial gathering in 2012 will likely hinge on what TCM plans for Thursday afternoon.

Barb, On your image: img src=http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_445/1255807947AFOweY.jpg> Lose the img src= at the beginning and the > at the end (keep the rest of the cod), replace them with an exclamation point just before the http (!http,) and another one after the.jpg (.jpg!)and your image should post just fine.

> I'm looking at booking my flight from Winnipeg. What time do events begin on Thursday? That haven't made any official announcements about the events on the opening day of 2012's Festival. But, this year, they had the *Meet TCM* panel discussion in the early afternoon. The official *Meet and Greet* in Club TCM began about 4:30 with the Red Carpet for the Opening Night film beginning about 5:15-5:30ish. I don't know if they will repeat the same start times in 2012 but it might not be a bad idea to plan accordingly.

Barb, Just post the image code like this: http://www.rhul-cinema.co.uk/films/images/amarcord.jpg *But* place an ! (exclamation point) at the beginning before http and at the end after jpg, your image should post with no hassle.

> remember him? Charlie, Starkist doesn't want tunas with good taste, they want tunas that taste good.

Fox has been down this road before with other satellite and cable companies. About the 11th hour, things tend to get worked out and the shows go on without disruption. This time it's just ironic because Fox used to own DirecTV.

I think all the bashing and the negative turn the boards have taken may also be contributing factor. But for those who have expressed concern about him, he is okay.

Aged, TCM still shows original documentaries and *Private Screenings* where classic stars sit down with Robert O for an extended interview. In the early years of TCM, they ran a number of documentaries on classic film stars that were originally produced for TNT. Back then, TNT ran classic movies and original documentaries. Once TCM came into being, TNT became a more mainstream channel featuring *Law and Order* and *Bones* reruns as well as original dramatic series. The good news is that TCM still airs those docs so if you missed them, keep an eye out on the schedule as they often show up. The clips of interviews that usually show up as part of the *Word of Mouth* promos are put together from interviews that are done by the Turner Archive Project. Before it became part of Time-Warner, the Turner Archive Project was undertaken and underwritten by Ted Turner to preserve the histories of those who worked in front and behind the cameras as well as other studio employees that were part of the studio era. When Ted Turner sold his media empire, including TCM to Time-Warner in the mid to late 1990s, the Turner Archive Project as well as the Turner film library came under the care of Warner Brothers Home Video. Hope that helps!

> He seemed to obviously be some kind of professional gunfighter, but we never knew where he came from or where he went or what his whole story really was. FredC, I think that mystery about the character really helped Ladd in the role. I can see Clift in the role but I'm glad that Ladd got the role because he really owns it. Roy, I'm hoping that the various westerns, old-fashioned and modern day, that various cable and traditional networks have in development, really come to fruition. How cool would that be to have westerns on tv again! dale

> That seems easy for me to understand. It would be to provide Washington with lots of solid, sensitive information, and to prepare for work in the OSS Plus Victor had escaped from a concentration camp if my memory isn't too hazy and likely would have lots of information about the camps that would help sympathizers raise money for relief efforts during the War as well as the OSS.

> I was curious tho why hasn't TCM tried to get Joan Fontaine or Olivia De Havilland for an interview? They have and both have turned them down. Not only for *Private Screenings* but also the TCM Film Festival as well. Ms. DeHavilland lives in Paris and is working on her autobiography. While she and Robert O are good friends she has declined offers to sit down for a formal interview. Ms. Fontaine lives in Carmel and prefers to live her life quietly. Others who have turned TCM down for *Private Screenings* include Doris Day, Maureen O'Hara, Kim Novak and Vera Miles.

Roy, I totally agree about Jean Arthur. I think she is just wonderful in this film and have a hard time imagining any other actress of her generation in the role. I loved your quote about the women of the west. It has such a ring of truth to it. Reading the history of that era as well as the Dust Bowl era, you wonder how those women endured. And yet, they did- generation after generation. I actually think Ladd is the better choice over Clift. And Holden in the part would have made the role of Joe very different. Who would ever imagine Marian carrying a torch for any man when she has Holden at home? By the way, have you seen the promos for the new Western series that AMC is about to premiere- *Hell on Wheels*. I hear that while the pilot isn't all that great, the show gets better as it goes along. From the sounds of things, westerns are about to make a comeback. Various networks all have old-fashioned and modern day western series in development.

It was actress Jeanne Crain. The film Robert O and Alec were spotlighting that week was *A Letter to Three Wives* which starred the wonderful Crain.

Helen, I can't wait to hear to about the cruise!!!! I hope you will do a trip report!

> I can think of no reason, other than his mother's influence, for an entire day of TCM programming to be devoted to this journeyman actor. Isn't this the kind of day that people around here have been asking for? A day devoted to someone who wasn't an A-list star but more of a character actor. Sounds like TCM just can't please everyone no matter what they do.

Hey Roy, I totally agree with you that *Shane* needs to come to Blu and the sooner the better! I would love to see any screen tests of Monty Clift and William Holden (can you imagine!!) as well. Especially in light of Holden getting the role of Joe Gillis when Clift decided at almost the eleventh hour he didn't want to do the movie. Not sure that I buy Kate Hepburn in the role of Marian but hopefully, the bonus features would reveal some footage. Here's hoping.........

> But, since you know the story behind his eyepatch, do you know the story behind Nicholas Ray's? I don't know it as a fact but I've read over the years that Ray lost the vision in his right eye in the late 1960s and began wearing the eye patch.

> Didn't Raoul Walsh also wear an eyepatch? Yes, he lost an eye when a jackrabbit jumped through the windshield of his car when he was on location filming *In Old Arizona*. John Ford, Andre De Toth and Nick Ray all wore eye patches as well.

Happy Birthday, Barb! May your day be filled with lots of amore!

> TCM isn't showing anything called "Master de Baters". What are you talking about? > And what the hell is all of this talk about "putting a modern slant" on old clips. How did "liberal agenda" get into any of this??? >Are we talking about the AFI Masterclass thing? TCM always does stuff like this. What does Steven Spielberg talking about his movies and collaboration with John Williams have to do with a "liberal agenda". THANK YOU!! I thought I was the only one wondering exactly what the original OP was complaining about and it certainly didn't help that other posters jumped on the band wagon without actually watching the *Now Playing* promo but felt the need to pile on without any evidence. And exactly what is the complaint? That TCM is establishing a partnership with the American Film Institute? That as part of that partnership, TCM and the AFI are spending an hour out of the entire month of November talking about Steven Spielberg's collaboration with John Williams? An hour out of the entire month, really that's the complaint? But, somehow, just automatically believing that TCM is going to the dark side without actually having seen the promo or considering the context seems to be the norm around here these days. Edited by: lzcutter because prepositions are important

> Sorry to disappoint ya but all your hoping for Nat will be for naught. The few remaining cards to be posted only feature the leads - if even them :_|