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> Ben has the routine down, no offence to the guest hosts, but they have been out of their element and it would have been better to go with the home team player in the first place. Ben is also taking over Robert O's hosting duties this summer at various public musical functions (Philharmonic orchestras and movie music evenings) around the country that Robert O has done for the last several summers. For more information about the cities and dates, be sure to catch the *This week in movie news* promo on TCM.

TCM announced earlier today: Ben Mankiewicz will serve as guest host for TCM's Summer Under the Stars festival in August. Ben will introduce the 9th installment of the festival while Robert Osborne is taking a break. This year's Summer Under the Stars features several people for the first time, including day-long schedules with Orson Welles, Joanne Woodward and Peter Lawford. Summer Under the Stars will also highlight Marlon Brando, Bette Davis, Jimmy Stewart, Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant, Joan Crawford and, on what would have been her 100th birthday, Lucille Ball.

> Then, on Monday August 1st we begin Summer Under the Stars. TCM announced earlier today: Ben Mankiewicz will serve as guest host for TCM's Summer Under the Stars festival in August. Ben will introduce the 9th installment of the festival while Robert Osborne is taking a break. This year's Summer Under the Stars features several people for the first time, including day-long schedules with Orson Welles, Joanne Woodward and Peter Lawford. Summer Under the Stars will also highlight Marlon Brando, Bette Davis, Jimmy Stewart, Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant, Joan Crawford and, on what would have been her 100th birthday, Lucille Ball.

Joss Whedon (creator of *Buffy the Vampire Slayer*) is prepping a big screen remake of *The Avengers*. Perhaps the DVDs have been pulled for remastering for a Blu-ray release to coincide with the movie being released? Just a thought.

Joss Whedon (creator of *Buffy the Vampire Slayer*) is prepping a big screen remake of *The Avengers*. Perhaps the DVDs have been pulled for remastering for a Blu-ray release to coincide with the movie being released? Just a thought.

> Do you know about the electronic music that starts at about 35 seconds into the trailer? My guess would be it was a piece by Vangelis who was very popular with film makers back then.

> You've been able to binge on Doug films alot this month. Sated yet? Nope, one can never watch too much Doug! You know me too well!

Sorry for the double post. Edited by: lzcutter

> Joel MacRea (sp?---You'd think I'd know how to spell his name by > now)Joel MacRea > Would there be an uproar? > If these limericks went away? finance, MsW seems to have a terrific imagination and is very creative. Once McCrea is SOTM, I'm sure she will find other stars to apply her poetic skills to. At least I hope she does.

Chief, I "heart" you!! Thank you for the Doug poster. You made my day!

> I think it is a true disservice to the regulars and it looks so amatureish and cheesey the way it is done As was noted by Kyle in another thread, it is probably because while Robert O's hiatus has been announced and he is not hosting the nightly evening films, he is still appearing on TCM on Tuesday and Thursday evenings because the wrap arounds for the *Race and Hollywood* series were filmed prior to his hiatus. To cut down on the confusion this may cause casual viewers and those regular viewers who may not be aware of the hiatus, TCM is using the guest hosts this month to get the word out. I doubt the announcement by the guest hosts will continue past this month. Edited by: lzcutter because saying done filmed is just wrong

> I'm sorry, but it's little more than a pointless Flash animation, which has little functionality Fedya, *SUTS* is still a week and a half (approximately) from beginning. As the 1st of August gets closer, the site will likely have much more going on. That's how past microsites have worked and I have no doubt this will follow suit.

> lzcutter was right to start the thread and the rest of us keep it up as it's a worthy idea and subject. Dadgumit, what in thunderation is the galdarn holdup? Thanks, wouldbe! I appreciate the kind words and the support for Joel McCrea. I suspect that part of the hold-up may have to do with acquiring digital masters for some of the lesser-known or lesser-seen films that McCrea starred in. He did a number of films in the 1950s for small companies and untangling the rights may be difficult. Also, he did a number of oaters for Universal and Paramount and I'm sure TCM would work with Uni to get a couple of titles as long as the rental fees were within the budget. I'm confident that TCM will come through for Joel McCrea. I hope they are able to get his grandson, Wyatt, to co-host with Robert O. Thanks again! Edited by: lzcutter for grammar

I'm watching it on TCM this afternoon. I absolutely love George O'Brien as Collingwood in this film. His prickly relationship with Fonda's Owen Thursday hints at the back story that lies at the heart of Thursday's fundamental character flaw, always expecting others to take the fall for his own mistakes. From the beginning, he underestimates everything not only about Fort Apache but the enemy as well. He cannot conceive that the Apache could be a stronger or more cunning enemy than the Sioux, despite Kirby's factual analysis of the situation. The conflict between Thursday and Collingwood, though is one reason I watch Fort Apache when it airs on TCM because, like so many of his films, the hints Ford gives on the backstory are often as potent and intriguing as the main story he is telling. Collingwood fell from glory before Thursday though I don't think it was from the same height. Something happened in their past. Did Sam take the fall for Thursday earlier in his career? Quite possibly. Given Thursday's ego, ruminate on this: Collingwood got sent to Ft. Apache years before while Thursday rode to glory. Thursday didn't arrive at his overly ambitious, preening self late in life, it was likely always there and one of the things that separated him from the men both at his level and in his command. Given his one-track mind it is likely that he rode to glory on the back of men like Collingwood and lord knows how many screw ups covered by other Captains before it finally catches up with him. Reputation in the military is everything and Thursday was never one to cultivate the loyalty of his men. He expected it because of who he was, his rank and his station. (Compare that to Ward Bond's O'Rourke and Wayne's Kirby Yorke and even Sam Collingwood as well as Nathan Brittles in SWAYR, they all know you earn the respect of your fellow officers and enlisted men but Thursday never learned that lesson.) Thursday ends up at this "tenpenny outpost" determined to ride the glory path out never realizing that the Western frontier calls for waging different way, never realizing that actually understanding the enemy you are fighting is key to winning. Because where Thursday comes from, men like him know best and they refuse to listen to those who might be able to help them not be their own worst enemies. Thursday sent Yorke back expecting Yorke to be the fall guy and Thursday would win the battle and ride back East on that glory train while Yorke got sent to another command even more "tenpenny" than Ft. Apache. Fate, however, had different ideas and decided that it was time that Owen Thursday, like George Minafer years later, got his comeuppance and finally learned the lessons that were always there but that he had been too prideful, too arrogant, too sure of himself to listen to. Unfortunately, men like Sam Collingwood and O'Rourke were collateral damage. In the end, Yorke does what he does not to glorify Thursday as much as to honor his friends who had no choice but to follow Thursday's orders. from a post done back in 2009 in Western Rambles but I thought it was time this wonderful film had its own current thread.

Barb, *Fort Apache* is on TCM this afternoon!

Barb, *Fort Apache* is on TCM this afternoon!

His son is screenwriter, Graham Yost. In addition to his big screen writing credits, Graham Yost is the executive producer of *Justified*, *Falling Skies*, *The Pacific* and *From the Earth to the Moon*.

"Suggest a Movie" can now be accessed from the pull down menu on the top banner. Go to Fan Community, use the pull down menu and select "Suggest a Movie". Earlier this week it could only be accessed that way from the home page but as of today, Friday July 22nd, it can be accessed that way from here in the forums as well. Enjoy!

> I think the sign is meant to be lit with neon and the holes are where the various neon tubing would emerge on the image. But even I can't "see" any neon tubes on Lloyd's face in the photo. I would think that the neon would have been included before lifting it up on to the marquee and not added later. I don't know for sure but I think that was the intent. Rather than neon, it looks like the facade was done so that white bulbs could be attached to it. At night, with the bulbs on, Lloyd's face would have been outlined.

> There hasn't been one for Frank Morgan, the most prominent MGM character player of all? Finance, I'm pretty sure that Frank Morgan has been featured in *What a Character*. Like Bingfan, I have a vague memory of that interstitial.

> Well, there was a motorcyclist (for "The Wild One"), a bus (for "It Happened One Night," although that vehicle didn't venture outside the Eastern time zone) and, of course, a "long, long trailer." VP, I originally thought it was the bus from *It Happened One Night* but after more thought and consultation with a good friend, he suggested it was the bus that drops Cary Grant out in the middle of nowhere in *North by Northwest*. I think he may be right.

> (Oh golly.. I am too hooked on this show for my own good, aint I?) Ro, No worries, you aren't alone in that regard. So, have you gotten hooked on *Rizzoli and Isles* as well?

Chief, Wow! The *SUTS* site this year has everything I love! The West, Monument Valley, mid-century modern, neon signs, Rte 66 and the bus is icing on the cake!!! I wish the home page was a poster!

> I saw that this is going to be the final season??? I hope I'm wrong Ro, While it is the final season, it won't end this summer. The final season will wrap up its first part this summer, return with a couple of first run episodes in December and then the last episodes of the series will air next summer. I think Kyra Sedgewick is executive producing the spin-off show starring Mary McDonnell.

Just a few: William Holden's mid-century modern home in *Executive Suite* James Mason's mid-century modern home in *North by Northwest* David Strathairn's mid-century modern home in *LA Confidential* Faye Dunaway's Spanish-style home in *Chinatown*