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*"LOVE it!!!"* -Mlle. Minya Well, we gotta get that firepit decorated, don't we? Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

Well, this is a pretty nice December Schedule. My highlights include - Alan J. Pakula night - with *The Parallax View*, *Gentlemen Prefer Blondes*, the return of *Remember The Night*, Albert Finney's *Scrooge*, David Lean's *Great Expectations* and *Heaven's Gate*. And TCM's version of "The Wonderful World Of Disney" every Sunday is fun too. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

Friday, September 12^th^

*"Has anyone seen a December schedule posted anywhere?"* - CCerini I haven't come across the December sched yet. But I think it will appear online soon. And I had never heard Robert Osborne announce future events like he did tonight. It was a great surprise. Kyle In Hollywood

Thought I'd post this before it gets lost in the shuffle. At the conclusion of this evening's showing of *Trouble In Paradise*, Robert Osborne announced that TCM is going to premiere *Cluny Brown* on Christmas Eve. (Maybe Xmas Eve is going to be a night of Ernst Lubitsch? What a great present that would be.) Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"I'm hoping to join in here, but don't know if I'll have the time or sanity to make the deadline. Then again, it just might be the sanity I need right now."* - MattHelm Woo-Hoo-Hoo! _Now_ we're really competing. This is going to be one great Challenge. I better quit mucking around planning next month's Poster Gallery selections and get to work. (But October is going to be a fun month in the Poster Gallery too.) Lynn, MattHelm, pancakes_barbara, ydobon, KubrickBuff. ILoveRayMilland (I wonder who _her_ "Star Of The Month" is going to be?), movieman1957. This is gonna be GOOD. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

Thursday, September 11^th^

Wednesday, September 10^th^ "American Politics in the Movies" every Wednesday in September on TCM.

"...also known as 'ButterScotchGreer I'm hoping she has a wonderful year One that's super-duper Full of Gary Cooper And plenty of hard times Being given to Frankie-Grimes ('cuz he deserves it!) Happy Birthday To 'butterscotchgreer'!" From 'Owl Jolson' and Kyle In Hollywood

> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote} > You guys have been clever to parlay one short single post by rover into a 5-page gripe and flame thread. Now tell us why you don't allow such griping and flaming on your own website? Why do you always come over here when you want to gripe, moan, and complain? > FredCDobbs - You're seeing things that just aren't in this thread. First, this isn't a five page "flame war". And I failed to see anyone being overtly "rude" to the OP. That some of us asked the OP to step back and look closely at what he/she is alleging to be proof of "the sorry state of TCM" shouldn't be categorized as such. It only took me two clicks to learn that the OP seems to have "issues" with Elvis movies on TCM. I thought it funny and definitely not something to get all "heated" over. But I thought it important information to share with the other members. And so did most other people who posted. It was almost too silly to even take seriously. That is why this thread de-volved into a discussion of idioms and *The Big Sleep*. But you (with tongue in cheek) brought "Jane Fonda" into the thread and then added a salacious reference to the photos from *The Big Sleep* and brought out your own pet-peeves about reconstructed classic films, silent film soundtracks and assorted other "gripes". So, I don't understand how members of "that other website" are responsible for this "five page gripe and flame thread". In fact, I don't see how "that other website" has anything to do with what has been posted in here. But somehow, somewhere, you see it in here. Wanna share your insights with the rest of us so we know why "those people" are to blame for this thread full of (mostly) friendly banter? Kyle In Hollywood

gagman66 - I wouldn't sit by the TV for the next week wating for it. I don't think Anita Page is going to get the "TCM Remembers" promo treatment. She's just not that well known to the general public - nor does she have a career that lends itself to such a piece. She did appear in an historically important film and she probably does deserve an obit at TCM.com. But the same can be said of Brenno Mello of *Black Orpheus*. About the only person of the early talkie era that merited such commemoration by TCM was Fay Wray. And the only one still living that probably will be remembered in that way upon her passing is Louise Rainer. It may sound callous on my part but Anita Page just doesn't rise to the level of name-recognition or career longevity to merit a special video memorial or a schedule change. TCM does such things sparingly. Kyle In Hollywood

Tuesday, September 9^th^

Monday, September 8^th^ Source: IMPA

I used to have a copy of *The Big Sleep* with the added material - but it is missing. I guess I gave it away to a co-worker. The "second" version isn't really a reconstruction. What one gets is alot of new or extended scenes tacked on to the end of the film to help understand the plot. According to Robert Osborne, WB cut stuff out of the film to make room for more Lauren Bacall. The material that was removed is what one gets in the longer version - but only as an afterthought. You still see the film in its "original" form. TCM hasn't shown the "longer" *The Big Sleep* in quite awhile. If it shows up on the schedule and the run time is longer than 114 minutes, it is the longer presentation. I think the entire presentation of the film and the additional material runs 2 & 1/2 hours. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"Better if he shoot lawyers, eh?"* - hamradio No, that's what Vice-Presidents are for. (What is it with Republican VPs all wanting to be Ralphie?) Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"Excellent re-cap Hlywdkjk. Betcha can figure out the plot to "The Big Sleep" too."* - CineMaven Oh no. Not I. Such metaphysical discussions are "above my pay grade". Kyle In Hollywood ------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

I usually ignore watching "At The Movies". (What's the point of listening to reviewers blather on about films I have no interest in seeing?) But, out of loyalty to Ben & TCM, I decided to check out the show's debut. And I was pleased I did. Ben comes off well. Very well. He is even "identified" as being from "Turner Classic Movies" on those few occasions when he has his name superimposed at the bottom of the screen. It was "odd" to see him in new surroundings (and in a suit & tie!) - but he was the "same ol' Ben". I do think he enjoys opining on "new" films for once. His "ironic" persona plays well on contemporary films. Especially *Burn After Reading* which he thoroughly enjoyed. And I will be forever grateful to him for uttering the phrase "*Crash* is one of the most over-rated movies ever." But he hasn't forgotten "his roots". I have to give him credit for recommending *Cool Hand Luke* as his DVD pick for the week - with the accompanying nod to TCM too. Now if he can only get his co-critic to be a bit less earnest. And get rid of the Board Room attire. But seeing him in his best Men's Warehouse outfit did tell me that he just might make an acceptable replacement for Robert Osborne someday. That's "might". Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"I was joking about "the economy" I was referring to it going down the tubes."* - hamradio I caught that. And I am sure most people did. You aren't one to derail a thread for one's own "entertainment". I don't think TCM is a compromised entity because it shows films through the 90s - but others do. What is most frustrating is that they want TCM to be something that it never was. It has always shown films from the silent era through the 80s (and now the 90s.) And you ought to try and venture out of General Discussions a bit more often. Try "Films And Filmmakers" for a change. There's some good stufff down there. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"I am trying to make the connections between the original post, TCM, Elvis, the economy, Jane Fonda, and 'whatever'."* - hamradio The original topic ( *The Ruin Of TCM* ) is a recurrent one. And one that has been discussed in some very *heated* terms. Our concerned member seems to be especially *heated* by Elvis movies on TCM. We have members that try to drag *current events* in to many discussions which also get rather *heated*. Many members haven't forgotten the mother of all *heated* discussions in here which was about an appearance of *Jane Fonda* on TCM. And, to most folks who come around here, it all merits a *whatever*. Don't feel left out. Be happy you weren't around during those days. It is just one of our many "family secrets" - just like the batty old relative we've got chained up in the attic. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"So that's how I can get "Big City" aired! Where do I send my resume?"* - ydobon Well, you could have stalked him in August at "Elvis Week" in Memphis. http://www.ajc.com/living/content/living/stories/2008/08/14/elvis_week.html But actually he would be the one at TCM you'd go to get them to make an original documentary on Margaret O'Brien. Showing *Big City* would still be the "job" of our "pal" 'tcmprogrammr'. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

'rover27' - You posted the same statement back on January 8^th^. http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/message.jspa?messageID=8036535#8036535 And, to the surprise of many, there was a civil discussion of your thread. You broached the subject on Elvis' Birthday when TCM was running many of his films. Today, when TCM showed *Viva Las Vegas*, you asked it again. Is it only about the Elvis movies? (If so, you are going to be disappointed quite often. One of the biggest fans of Elvis Presley is a VP at TCM. Elvis may have "left the mortal building" but he ain't leaving the TCM schedule.) But in general terms, I think most people would find the question completely out of place in a month when Kay Francis is "Star Of The Month" and so soon after TCM ran 24-hour marathons devoted to other actors such as Marie Dressler, Laurel & Hardy, Fred MacMurray, Peter Lorre and Greer Garson. It behooves you - and others with similar sentiments - to move beyond the term "Classic". In "TCM City", classic goes far beyond the Hollywood Studio Era. TCM was never "the oldies station" of movies. You've written in the past that you have only had TCM for 5 - 6 years. I know you haven't seen every "classic" already. They will continue to show up. But somedays Elvis is going to share the channel with Joan Blondell. I am sure she doesn't mind. Should you? Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

Sunday, September 7^th^ Remembering Breno Mello

Sunday, September 7^th^

I am always pleased when "classic films" are referenced in current events. It is a nice "stroke" and justification for one's interest in what so many others dismiss as "old-fashioned" and irrelevant. Lately, some insightful (or paranoid, perhaps) commentators and critics have become fond of past film allusions when talking about the current campaign for President. To wit - ====== "When Alaska Governor Sarah Palin was about to give her speech Wednesday night in St. Paul, *Turner Classic Movies* was about 15 minutes into *"The Candidate"* starring Robert Redford. Now, TCM has no idea who John McCain would have picked for a running mate, but the channel did schedule the movie for when the Republican VP candidate would speak. Perhaps the channel's marketing people had ESP. When Gov. Palin was finished with her speech, she looked all alone on a drab set, the huge video flag flying behind her. Nobody rushed on to meet her right away. No family, no supporters, nothing. The moment looked awkward. Waving, smiling, not knowing what was happening next. I almost wondered if she was asking herself: _"What do we do now?"_ - the now famous line from the movie." - http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/election08/322 ====== "With bloated staffs and citizens e-mailing opinions 24/7, Barack Obama and John McCain probably don't feel the need for any more advice. But the presidential candidates could learn a thing or two by watching the best of the movies that have been made about political campaigns. In *"The Last Hurrah,"* a 72-year-old candidate struggles with attempting to seem hip. He's flummoxed by television, which has just come into use in campaigns, the way McCain is with the Internet." - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/24/PKCQ12BUI1.DTL&type=printable ====== "It seemed almost impossible at the time. In the 1964 political-convention movie *"The Best Man,"* a character stands in front of the delegates and gives a speech that is hopeful yet outlandish. "Someday, we're going to have a Negro president. After that, we're going to do something for that other minority and elect a woman." Forty-four years later, a black president is a distinct possibility, and a woman came remarkably close to securing her party's nomination." - http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/entertainment/movies.PrintView.-content-articles-RTD-2008-08-27-0047.html ====== Before the end of the month (or the end of the current campaign), I wouldn't be surprised to read allusions to *The Farmer's Daughter*, *The Great McGinty* or *Washington Story* in the writings of the more film-literate columnists. That each of these films - and more - are being shown on TCM _does_ make the channel seem prescient. I only pray that there will be no need to write about *Nashville*. Kyle In Hollywood ------------ "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

Saturday, September 6^th^ Souce: IMPA