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Was just watching *Edison, The Man* and had forgotten how many good character actors there are in this film - especially Charles Coburn and Gene Lockhart. (And a good dose of Felix Bressart too!) Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*" have the power to do anything here. They negotiate..."* - MattHelm Un-huh. Can I assume the majority of teachers are members of the union? If so, is it possible that all teachers benefit from the negotiations the union makes on behalf of its members? And this would also ensure decent wages for teachers outside of the public school system? (Ever consider teaching at a private school? ) And are the benefits for non-union teachers better, worse or equal to the benfits a union teacher receives? If you've got a fixed pension (if they exist any longer), full medical at retirement, access to preferred loans through a Union Savings & Loan (or government teacher's program), tuition reimbursement for continuing education programs, etc., would you have those if _not_ a member of the union? If union and non-union members have equivilent benefit packages, wouldn't it be due to the work of the union for its members? And while I don't like to hear about lazy or abusive teachers being protected from disciplinary actions for their behavior, you said so yourself that that is just as likely that a student or parent will instigate an unfounded retallitory action against a teacher who is being unfair to "little Johnny or Jenny". That the little nippers can be quite savvy and malicious is nothing "new". (see *The Children's Hour* ) So, what do you think about "social promotion"? Ever want to pass a student just to get him or her out of your hair? And how many standardized tests do First Graders heve to endure every year? *"Thanks. And I will admit when I'm wrong - if my information is proven wrong."* From what I have seen, you're not 100% ideologically driven on most topics. And always open to new information and insights. Plus you're always respectful of another's opinion on the subject of movies - which is why most of us come here in the first place. (Seen any good movies lately? I hope you're not one of those that thinks *WALL-E* was some sort of environmentalist screed disguised as a kiddie cartoon.) Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

Sunday, August 31^st^ 1915 ----------------------- And so, with the arrival of *The Tramp* and *The Birth Of A Nation* in 1915, filmmaking was on the path it would follow for the next 100 years. I hope this look at the first 20 years of film - and the posters of the era - has been interesting. Starting September 1^st^, the Gallery returns once again to more familiar territory. Kyle In Hollywood

*"I feel dirty for submitting to the union because I hate them..."* - MattHelm Wow. Want to elaborate? How is it that you "feel dirty"? And what did the teacher's union do to you. (CSjr has already laid out what the union likely did _for_ you.) Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"The only way you're going to be taxed at anything like 60% is if your sole source of income is regularly inheriting estates valued over $3 million..."* -CSjr MattHelm never claimed any person's income taxes were at or near 60%. We were discussing taxes on a gallon of gas - which he wrote amounted to 60 cents on a gallon in some states. I did get him to acknowledge that the Federal tax on a gallon of gas was only 17 cents. This wasn't like you, CSjr. I don't know if you mis-read his statement or you were just looking to pick a fight. Either way, MattHelm isn't one who comes around here looking to "strew crap". Others may. Others do. But not him. One can actually have a discussion with MattHelm that is thoughtful and reasonable. He might not admit he was "wrong" - but he may say "You could be right." And that's a better attitude than some of the others you and I see around here. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"Once I get the boxes cleared, I will post some before and afters of this place inside. cc has offered to help me. Stay tuned!"* - casablancalover What I want to know is - "Does Tom Drake live next door and have you made your first batch of ketchup in the kitchen yet?" Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"I enjoyed what he had to say and thought it was well done."* - MissGoddess *"Nice acknowledgement to the viewers too."* - mr6666 *"Really enjoyed Ben's comments, about the station, about the fans."* - markbeckhuaf Sounds like we all are suckers for a bit of flattery. Not that we _aren't_ the best fans of a television channel that I know of. And that goes for everyone in these Forums. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

But you are definitely _not_ someone "only a mother could love." Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"...wherever you live, you're paying for a tunnel you'll most likely never use."* - MattHelm "Thank You" everyone for my subway that I ride to work everyday and has allowed me to "function" in the sprawling mega-suburb that is known as Los Angeles. If you come to town, I'll pay the fare. I'd thank you for Yosemite too - but I never go there. And about "no-bid contracts", be sure to catch *The Great McGinty* next month on TCM. I have a feeling that defense dept. contracts were handed out in the same manner that McGinty hands out "bus franchises". Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"Talk about Wild Kingdom. I feel like Marlon Perkins in class."* - MttHelm Well then. All this must seem like a holiday for you then. BTW - I've never asked before and you don't have to answer but... (Terrible of me to post it that way.) Are you a member of the teacher's union? And, going back a few pages, are you certain federal gas taxes amount to 60 cents on a gallon? I thought it turned about to be less and that was why the recent idea of "gas tax holiday" was quickly shelved. Many people thought it was something akin to 37 cents (or less even) of every dollar - when it was 37 cents on every gallon sold. And at $4.50/gallon, the "savings" turned out to be negligible - even on a "fill-up". Which leads me to add this to discuss - should the price of a barrel of crude oil be subject to the kind of financial market trading that say gold is subject to? Record-high prices for a barrel of oil was all too reminiscent (to me) of the trader's manipulation of electricity here in California a few years ago. But even if the price was not being affected by "manipulation", it still seems wrong that "oil" can be traded solely for investment puposes just like "gold". Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.* Message was edited by: hlywdkjk because I mis-spelled "reminiscent"

*"That's still going on?"* Somedays it's "Wild Kingdom" in here. The only thing missing is Marlon Perkins. But in the case of "ILoveRayMilland", her younger brother created an account for "ILoveRayMiland" - with a single "L" - and was only being silly. Though it embarrased "ILRM" greatly. We hear he was severely beaten and sent to bed without his supper. But all is forgiven and the two of them are playing Guitar Hero together now. Now, if only some more folks could learn how to play well with others - something I fully expect you _do_ instill in your students. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"Oh boy. Well, at least I threatened Rush (tongue in cheek), not him."* - mickeeteeze Lest you think I was trying to be rude and sarcastic, the member shared their medical issue in the thread to which I linked. (And I only offered it as an possible explanation for the spelling and grammar errors.) I was definitely not mocking the member's condition. But I do think, much like what happened to 'ILoveRayMilland', someone else is posting under that poster's account. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"I suspect maybe someone has taken your ('ask') name and playing a joke here..."* - JakeHolman You may be right. This member never had the type of spelling errors previously that is common in their posts over the past few days. (But it might also be a reaction to the medication this member is taking.) http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/click.jspa?searchID=-1&messageID=8129076 Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"Despite what television says, what Hollywood says, gay is not okay."* - 'ask' Gad. You really needed to go there? As if that has any bearing on any conversation currently in progress in this thread. Haven't you figured out there are many gay men and lesbians in these Forums? Probably more than you have seen on DirectTV. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"...there's no way they have enough people to randomly check normal citizens out like that. You're only going to be investigated if you're doing something you shouldn't be doing."* - MattHelm There are computers that "do" the work (private industry computers, no less) that is logistically impossible for persons to perform. And I cringe at the prospect that an American citizen "shouldn't be doing" something out of fear of drawing attention to himself/herself. If I wanted to take out "The Anarchist's Cookbook" from the library - solely out of an idle and unmalicious curiosity of what exactly is in the notorious volume - it should not mark me "a person of interest". And subject me to unlimited imprisonment without charge. *The Westerner*, *Fury* and *The Ox-Box Incident* may be only movies. But ask Richard Jewell if they were only fiction. Or David Hatfill. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.*

*"Tell me about your post script, "Oooh I had a little guinea pig..."* - CineMaven I've been listening to old "Fibber McGee & Molly" radio shows for quite awhile. The "post-script" is just one of the little ditties Fibber McGee occasionally sings to himself during the show. Last week the "post-script" went like this - "Ooohh, I had a little flea and his name was Daniel. Saved all his money so to buy his own spaniel." *F.McGee* There's something about a well-crafted pun that makes me laugh. But it probably loses something in the transcription. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack." *F.McGee*

*"So is your costume b-day bash , Annie Laurie Starr?"* - FrankGrimes *"Yes."* - Minya Promise me you won't go out looking like the girl in the *Man Bait* poster and come home looking like the girl in the *Pick-up* poster. OK? Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Ooohh, I had a little guinea pig. I kept him on the shelf with a little brownie camera so he could reproduce himself." *F. McGee*

You are priceless. I hope you know that. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Ooohh, I had a little guinea pig. I kept him on the shelf with a little brownie camera so he could reproduce himself." *F. McGee*

Saturday, August 30^th^ 1915 "Throughout 1915, Chaplin made films at Essanay's California studio, moving away from straightforward slapstick into more nuanced stories. He would make about a dozen films for the Chicago-based studio, including *The Tramp*, which would conclude for the first time with his threadbare hero waddling along with his back to the camera, twirling his skinny cane with an ineffable melancholy - an image that would become Chaplin's signature. Thanks in part to a promotional campaign by Essanay, "Chaplinitis" swept the country. Actors donned tramp costumes and mimicked that Chaplin walk. The public snapped up Charlie spoons, lapel pins, ashtrays, and "squirt rings," as well as statuettes by the Chicago artist Cyrus LeRoy Baldridge. In January 1916, as Chaplin's contract came up for renewal, Anderson (the "A" of "S&A" - Essanany") told his partner that their comic star wanted $10,000 a week. Spoor (the "S" of Essanay) refused to meet his demand, and Chaplin jumped ship for the Mutual Film studio-where he got his weekly salary as well as a $150,000 bonus." Text Source: http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2007/Reel-Chicago/

Dewey1960 - How are _you?_ My prodding below of MattHelm to "throw in" on 'filmlover's new Challenge goes for _you_ too. I hope you consider it - seriously! Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Ooohh, I had a little guinea pig. I kept him on the shelf with a little brownie camera so he could reproduce himself." *F. McGee*

"Sometimes if forget I work in television. I don't feel like I work in television. I work at TCM." Ben Mankiewicz I guess TCM decided Ben M. needed to be "re-introduced" to the viewers. And they did a very nice job doing so. It also doesn't hurt that he compliments the channel's viewers in the process. (I wonder if he has read some of the things said about him in here?) Keep an eye open for it. I saw it for the first time today - right before *Stage Door*. Kyle (one of the many "TCM owners") In Hollywood -------------------------- "Ooohh, I had a little guinea pig. I kept him on the shelf with a little brownie camera so he could reproduce himself." *F. McGee* Message was edited by: hlywdkjk

MattHelm - Hi Buddy! It's been a long time. Hope you're well. School start next week? *"I love when people say our rights have been taken away, like that of habeas corpus, and leave out the "if you're a terrorist" part. Ditto for the FISA act."* - MattHelm Ahhh. But _you_ forgot to include "if you're _suspected_ of being a terrorist". There are over One Million names on the "No_Fly" list - or whatever it is called - that subjects one to heightened security at airports. And they all don't belong there. Does anyone truly believe that there are One Million potential terrorists in the United States? Or that the singer once known as "Cat Stevens" is dangerous and should be barred from entering the country? The USA will probably be paying a lot of money to a young Canadian who was sent Guatanamo Bay and held without charge for many years. As a citizen of the United States, I value my liberty - and my privacy - very highly. I don't want the Law Enforcement division of my government scanning my emails, listening to my phone calls or cataloguing what I remove from the library - without a judge reviewing the reasons for such actions and giving Law Enforcement legal authority to do so. Without some basic privacy there is no liberty. So, MattHelm. 'filmlover' has a new Programming Challenge starting on Monday. Wanna throw in again and join the rest of us "old-timers"? You always make a Challenge more fun - and definitely more entertaining. I hope you consider it. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Ooohh, I had a little guinea pig. I kept him on the shelf with a little brownie camera so he could reproduce himself." *F. McGee*

*"Or, do you believe people can't help themselves and it is the restaurants that served them fries and made them fat are responsible?"* - JakeHolman No I don't. *"Or the bartender who served them too many drinks?"* Ahh. But as a bartender, I _personally_ (and my employer) do have liabilty for any damages or injury caused by a person I served and who is "impaired" when leaving. (Even if I only served one beer to a person - but they previously had a dozen tequila shooters down the street before I served the single beer.) And I believe (but may be wrong) that states across the country have similar liabilty laws on the books. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Ooohh, I had a little guinea pig. I kept him on the shelf with a little brownie camera so he could reproduce himself." *F. McGee*

*"...which is why I go on long sabbaticals from this forum."* - nodgnoc Can I talk ya into hanging around for TCM's "American Politics In Film" month coming in September? I wish I could promise a clean "food fight", but I can't. I fear it will get messy in here next month. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Ooohh, I had a little guinea pig. I kept him on the shelf with a little brownie camera so he could reproduce himself." *F. McGee*

*"You people can't come up with any reasonable arguments so instead you just start looking for things to argue."* - 'ask' I don't engage in these threads often. And now I know why. I am "unreasonable" _and_ "pathetic". I may be a member of the vast class of the "working poor" and the potential target of the revised Bankruptcy law, but I am not poor of ideas or class. I would never dismiss another poster here with a pejorative "You People" simply because I disagree with their editorializing. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Ooohh, I had a little guinea pig. I kept him on the shelf with a little brownie camera so he could reproduce himself." *F. McGee*