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*"Never thought of those 'promos' in that light. Sometimes a 'sedated' brain can see what is not obvious under more 'conscious' conditions."* - mr6666
I think I understand. It's kinda like why "The Three Stooges" are only funny early in the morning before rational thinking has completely kicked in..
I still believe the verbal message is contradicted by the visual message of cutting and slicing in these spots. Especially when the TCM logo appears on the object that was being "cut".
But, then again, maybe I have seen the montage sequence from *The Parallax View* one too many times to be objective about the power of visual imagery.
Kyle In Hollywood
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*"...you can see the kid version of Ben-Hur. ""Hate keeps a man alive" indeed. "* - moirafinnie6
But you left out the best part - the little 'cough' that follows that line! Adorable.
I, too am very fond of that promo - trampling hobby horses and all - but my heart (and head) goes to the Ice Capades production of *The Dirty Dozen" from that same series of promos.
"Skate Jefferson, Skate"
Kyle (don't know if they actually say that) In Hollywood
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h4. Congratulations TCM!
Now what is the traditional gift for a fourteenth anniversary? Paper? Wood? Crystal? GiftCard?
Kyle In Hollywood
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*"Kyle, I hope you're feeling better now."*
A little. But it's still morning here. Ask me again after twelve.
kjk
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OK. This isn't about the programming on TCM. Just a pet peeve this morning. (Can't help it. I'm always "peevish" on Monday mornings.)
TCM is running three new station promos lately each around the idea of "Creative Cutting" - the schoolgirl with her scissors, the butcher with his meat slicer and the steelworker with his acetelyne torch. Each of these promos are meant to reinforce the idea that TCM doesn't edit ("cut") their films for presentation on the channel.
Yet the visual messages found in these promos is exactly the _opposite_ ! In each promo, the subject "creates" the TCM logo from their handiwork. It associates TCM with the act of "cutting" or removal of part from the whole. And I know that isn't what TCM intends to convey in these spots - but that's what I see there.
I know the voice-over says something about TCM doesn't know how to cut - but that is "lost" when looking at the visual representation. The visual message "trumps" the audio message.
Rather than have the subjects "creating" the TCM logo from their act of cutting, I think it would have been better for the spot to show something branded with the TCM logo that wasn't or couldn't have been altered by their handiwork - such as a clean piece of paper with the TCM logo that girl can't alter (or chooses not to alter.). Maybe she picks it up but then puts it aside. The butcher picks up a thick steak marked "TCM" that wouldn't fit into the slicer or a large Italian sausage with the TCM logo but lays aside "untouched". And maybe the steelworker uses his torch attempting to cut a piece of window glass branded with the TCM logo to no avail. Or maybe show a metal film can with the TCM logo laying around at the end of each spot.
But don't put the TCM logo on the altered object! Visually, you've just "undercut" what you wanted to express. TCM is usually so good at their station promos but these leave me scratching my head.
Just wanted to get that off my chest.
Kyle In Hollywood
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Monday April 21^st^
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*"Thanks for the Jules Dassin spotlight. I really like the "Rififi" poster. Very nice."* - FrankGrimes
You're welcome. Don't know if you noticed but the artwork has Dassin's "signature" on it - like the way an artist signs a painting. I wonder if he was the "creator" of the image or if this is a scan of a poster someone had him sign. I like to think it is the former.
Kyle In Hollywood
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*"The Crimson Pirate I have is different than the one you posted."* - Minya
Wow! I didn't think that would be the case. I had planned to post the *Corsair Rouge* poster before you posted the titles on your wall so it was "disappointing" to read it was already on your walls. But now I am pleased to hear the poster below was a "new" treat.
I don't think I have ever seen posters for *Trapeze* or *The Swimmer* myself. All I knew was that in one movie Burt is in tights (as you've seen) and in the other he is swim trunks for vitually all of the film. "Slavering" didn't cross my mind. It was all about the decor. Besides, if you can't "slaver" in your own bathroom, then where can ya?
Kyle In Hollywood
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*"The artist for the"Forza Bruta" poster really gave Lancaster the sex symbol glamor treatment."*
Yep. Yvonne DeCarlo didn't have a chance in that artist's eyes.
Kyle In Hollywood
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OK all you students.
Here's someting truly serendipitous - and a little scary.
I was killing some time earlier tonight with the "free" satellite service "Classic Arts Showcase" on my TV and what should appear but excerpts from a historical/biographical documentary titled "The Way To Murnau". It was made in 2002.
I found it quite interesting and it might make a good primer or introduction before diving in to the films themselves.
If you want to incorporate this into your curriculum (sp?), it can be found on the Kino DVD of Murnau's *Tartuffe* and is available through Netflix.
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Tartuffe/60032422?trkid=147042
or Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Tartuffe-Way-Murnau-Hermann-Picha/dp/B0000DZTOV
Kyle In Hollywood
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*"Can you do a link for the beginning of the Hot Topics Archive?"*
You mean like this?
http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/forum.jspa?forumID=148&start=1695
First thread -
Oct 05, 2002
"why your channel is not translate to arabic"
(How's that for a "Hot Topic"?)
Kyle In Hollywood
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*"Very interesting to go a-browsing. All those posters of yore --- gone!"* - laffite
On "page 566" (aka June 2002) I see messages from a "mongo" and a "finnie, moira" who are both (thankfully) still with us. It is a trip to see what has come and gone before us.
Kyle In Hollywood
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...and I'll post on Ohio and then get out of the way.
*The Fortune Cookie*
http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/title.jsp?stid=15862
"During a Cleveland Browns--Minnesota Vikings football game in Cleveland, CBS-TV cameraman Harry Hinkle is sent sprawling when a 220-pound halfback crashes into him at the sidelines."
and one more for "Cleveland"
*American Hot Wax*
http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/title.jsp?stid=3972
"This is the true story of Cleveland disc jockey Alan Freed, who introduced rock'n'roll to teenage American radio audiences in the 1950's."
Kyle In Hollywood
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re: North Dakota.
I was waiting for someone else to post this but since we've moved on, I guess no one will so I nominate *Dances With Wolves*.
http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/title.jsp?stid=72152
"A soldier stationed in North Dakota leaves his post to join a nearby Sioux tribe."
On to "Ohio"!
Kyle in Hollywood
Message was edited by: hlywdkjk
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*"I've hit the 'no' box for the messages but am still getting a ton of emails."*
Hello 'mt9' -
I am guessing you are referring to the preferences set through the Control Panel accessed through the icon on the right side of the page when you're logged-in. If not, write back and we can walk you through that process. Or see here -
http://support.tcm.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5481
When did you "hit the "No" box"? Today? If so, it is possible that the "change" to your preferences won't be implemented until overnight tonight. Certain processes are executed just once a day - like emptying the deleted messages folder in one's Private Message mailbox. It is possible that the changes you have made to your "watched thread" lists won't take effect until tomorrow.
But if you made these changes yesterday - or earlier - I am not sure why you would still be receiving the messages as emails. Maybe someone else has abetter idea.
Kyle In Hollywood
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Hello 'Stephan55' (are you dating yourself now? ) -
*"But now I wonder why other channels that do not produce their own material (i.e. AMC) rely so heavily on commercials that disrupt viewing their programs?"*
Because as a method of raising revenue, selling advertising is a very easy route to take - especially when the "penetration of your channel" (the number of households receiving your channel) has "plateau-ed". As a business, a cable channel still needs to increase revenue each year and not just operate within its projected budget. Investors/Shareholders expect a growing profit stream. Thankfully, TCM is working to add revenue by "any means necessary" short of adding commercials to the channel. They understand that being "commercial-free" is what makes the channel unique and is a major reason it has cultivated such a loyal audience.
You might have noticed that the channel promotes this website ALOT lately. (The new on-screen "tcm.com" logo, for example.) "Exploiting" the traffic of this website to advertisers is one method of increasing revenue for the channel. Same goes for the sale of DVDs, etc. through the arrangement with "Movies Unlimited". And I am sure there will be other "subtle" methods yet to come. But I want to believe that traditional "commercials" will be the last resort.
Once a channel enters into the "audience delivery" business (programming to attract an audience for selling to advertisers), the advertiser's desires take precedence over those of the audience. (This is why networks now program to attract twenty-year-olds and not forty-year-olds) Programming becomes all about "eyeballs" that can see an advertisement - the more eyeballs, the more a channel can charge for those advertisements. It becomes a downward spiral of what will deliver more eyeballs and not what is the most interesting programming.
The current head of Turner Entertainment has stated he couldn't make TCM a multi-billion dollar operation if he tried - and he has no intention of doing so. But he is concerned (as he should be) with the long-term viability of the channel. See this recent article in an Atlanta weekly for a "backstage" look at TCM.
http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/the_moviegoer/Content?oid=416029
and the discussion that took place in this thread -
http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/click.jspa?searchID=184294&messageID=8056115
*"I wish that it were possible to just pick and pay for the individual channels that one does enjoy, instead of being "forced" to buy a plethora of "junk" filler stations in an otherwise unwanted package just to get that choice handful."*
This subject has come up in these Forums before. One of the better threads can be found here -
and includes a "rebuttal" of sorts that I wrote (with the help of the NYTimes) on the idea of "a la carte" cable pricing and its potential affect on channels such TCM.
In the meantime, keep the faith that TCM as we now know it is gonna be around for awhile.
Kyle In Hollywood
Message was edited by: hlywdkjk because Iinserted a paragraph in the wrong spot.
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*"...if this continues I will be forced to regard Burt Lancaster not just as a talented actor, but also as total hunk-thus giving in once again to my baser desires."* - Minya
I kinda thought - with you already having "Crimson Pirate Burt" on your walls - your baser self wouldn't be unnecessarilly encouraged with today's posting.
But then again, it was foolish of me to expect subtlety from a poster titled *Brute Force*.
Now, if I find a poster for *Trapeze* or *The Swimmer*, you will be ready when your baser self urges you to redo the bathroom decor.
Kyle In Hollywood
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Sunday Apr20^th^
In recognition of tonight's tibute to Jules Dassin.
(thanks to "BackAlleyNoir")
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Sunday April 20^th^
In recognition of tonight's tribute to Jules Dassin.
(Thanks to "BackAlleyNoir")
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Hello Stephan.
TCM, like all cable channels, receives a portion of the monthly fee charged by your local cable or satellite provider. TCM is seen in 70 million households in the US. So, at even just 50 cents a household/subscriber (Just a guess. No one seems to know what TCM amount actually recieves perhousehold), that would equal about 35 million dollars each month in operating revenue.
That amount of money can go a long way when a channel isn't producing "new" or original programming. And "classic" films are much less expensive to lease for showing on television than new releases. So it is still possible for TCM to operate "in the black" without the revenue from selling commercial time on the network.
I hope this gives you some idea of how the TCM business model works.
And welcome to the community. I hope you hang around here and join in on other conversations.
Kyle In Hollywood
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Saturday April 19^th^
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*"The latter one is in French, so how could I resist Le Corsair Rouge?"* - Minya
I understand.
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*"Thoughts on this film ?"*
It's a heckuva lot more involving than *Vertigo". That film needed "Mrs. Danvers".
Seriously, it is a wonderful film and well worth checking out. It is "The Essential" on May 3rd.
Kyle In Hollywood
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*"It has allowed me to develop the pirate bathroom I've always wanted and at a reasonable price."* - Minya
Now that's an interesting decor choice. I hope it isn't all "Jack Sparrow" - but would "understand" if it was.
Kyle In Hollywood
"Creative Cutting" by TCM
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*"But there's obviously no easy way to distinguish Bob Osborne from Bob Dorian..."* - CSjr
As long as I am not confusing either of them with the "Bob" from Enzyte I know that my dottage hasn't begun.
Kyle In Hollywood