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>Chris- It's interesting that you pointed out the cross, as I had noticed it too. But my take on it had an added touch..... I saw it as Millie's redemption as well... the cross is looming over her and the parson... she is protected by it in death... we KNOW she will be in heaven because of her sacrifice..... So true. So many ways to see things. I hadn't thought it that personal to Mille but it's a great point.

Thank you. I didn't notice I had hit 3000 until a short time ago. (Though it has taken me three years to get here.) You enjoy your tea and I'll have a soda and we'll have a grand time. The photo turned out pretty small and it looks good. To go off an a tangent, theirs is one of western's most unusual relationships.I love Stella's line "If the world doesn't fit you make adjustments." Maybe we'll all talk "Silverado" soon.

Thanks for the mention of my posts. I didn't even realize it. Happy Holidays to you too.

No. In true Dirty Harry style he says to them, "If you want me back you get it."

It's Bogie's birthday. A lot of good stuff came before so it's a chance to showcase something a little different. Not so much a defense as an explanation. As far as New Year's Eve goes it is a good compromise as you get more dancing for your time. I would agree with you about the Marx Brothers celebration as it was one I really enjoyed but I feel as though it was not as popular as one fan might think. (Based on reactions here.)

"Give me back that Milk Dud!"

The yelling of "brother" does several things. It certainly signifies their relationship and it takes Bull even farther from his "bad man" status. He's rescuing people from a burning church and even more transformed when hearing his sister yell for him. It would seem that has been her name for him since that is all she yells and based on the way he responds. I think too the burning cross prominently placed behind her as she lay dying serves two purposes as well. It reminds us that even a church is no complete sanctuary from those evil enough to ignore its status and also may represent her sacrifice. Without her sacrifice the town has no leader of the church and by extention no moral center to rally to. You'll notice at one point her arms are extended parallel with the cross. Her upper body position as if she were on it.

Jackie: You made an interesting point about the different levels of devotion by the boys. Where Spade and Mike were like favorite uncles, as you say, Bull acted almost as a father. Almost from the moment they meet realizing the death of her father they immediately and without thinking take on that role. Maybe since she is comforted by Bull he feels that relationship with her. I think Layne is all about power. He has it and can do whatever he wants with it. His fine clothes, save for that hat, are an extension of that power. No one else in town dresses like him. When the potential husband who is a decent dresser without any of the flash tries to upgrade to the poorly chosen identical outfit of Layne's he is properly ridiculed. The clothes are power and no one else will be able to join him at that level. Millie and Layne are a couple when they are introduced. Apparently, it is a matter of convenience for Layne. It suits him until it is no longer needed.

Go out to dinner for one night and look what I miss!!

>Groucho is so entertaining to watch. He keeps those zingers coming. If one doesn't work another is on the way. You can start laughing and end up missing a couple of great lines when he is on a role. I really like Margaret Dumont as well. The music in Duck Soup really accentuates the comedy probably better than any of their films. In fact people complained about missing the next zinger because they were so busy laughing at the last one that this caused them to take a stage version of their upcoming movie on the road. They would time the laughs and work that time frame into the movie. Someone else mentioned "Copacabana" and I think they will find only Groucho in it.

>I didn't know you liked "Jessica Tate" that much. I don't think she is my favorite but I love the way Helmond played her. He was the most wonderful ditz. Joyful in all things and every now and then lucidity and genuine wisdom backed with deep affection came from her. I guess I thought she was among the most unusual characters.

Ladies: You need to take a breath. Your collective reactions may be contributing to global warming. If only he knew.....

Thanks for a fine write up. My wife caught it by accident yesterday and loved it. Having seen it several times myself I was amazed she managed to miss it. Of course it was all my fault. She says the final couple of minutes of the movie is us. I tell her I love her and she says shut up and deal. We lived happily ever after.

I watched "Hangman's House" last night (insomnia.) I wasn't as enamored with it as you. On the good side it is a lovely looking film. Lots of great sets. A great house. Lots of fog. It's a fine looking film. It is also a fine climax. The problem I had with a couple of things deal with its credibility in the storyline. Mainly after making a poiint of sneaking back into Ireland McLaglen is found out almost before he gets a chance to unpack. Later, after his escape everyone seems to know where he is except the police. The performances are a little over the top, at least compared to the easy going style of "3 Bad Men." Didn't like the fake rock walls in the horse race either. Overall, it is an ok film. Not much of the Ford humor. There is not enough time as it runs only about 70 minutes. Once again another annoying musical score. A quartet of flute, piano and cello(s) make up the musicians in a more contemporary styled score. The flute was prominent enough to be a distraction for me.

TVLand WAS a wonderful thing. It's great so many old shows are on DVD. In no particular order - _Guys_ Jim Rockford - James Garner - The Rockford Files Jack McCoy - Sam Waterson - Law and Order Hawkeye Pierce - Alan Alda - MASH Bob Hartley/Dick Louden - Bob Newhart - both Newhart shows Frank Pembleton - Andre Braugher - Homicide Rob Petrie - Dick Van Dyke _Gals_ Jessica Tate - Katharine Helmond - Soap Laura Petrie - Mary Tyler Moore - Dick Van Dyke Lisa Douglas - Eva Gabor - Green Acres Gracie Allen - The Burns and Allen Show Jean Parteger - Judi Dench - As Time Goes By There are but a few....

>26. Bobbie Jo Bradley (Lori Saunders in Petticoat Junction) You can't be that old!

I just thought they fit too well. It looked like they would have trouble breathing much less sitting down. I had forgotten about them often making their clothes. Thanks.

You are right though. All too often movies of the late 50's and rearly 60's made current fashion of hair and even makeup on the actresses regardless of what time the movie was set. Frankly, I don't quite buy that clothes were tailored that well in late 1860's Kansas or anywhere if you bought them at the store. It is certainly the case in TV shows of the day. Audra Barkley is a case is point. Most of the women in TV and movie westerns looked way better than reality would suggest. They didn't sweat, they didn't look plain enough. Even when they were at home doing the work too many of them had too fine a fit in their plain dresses. Most of them, I would suspect, would hang on them like a night shirt. They are often pretty to see but often unrealistic.

> {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote} > > You have to see how they introduce her in the movie...she's plowing a field (drawn by > horse, of course) in her long blond hair (down, of course, one must look good for > the plow horse), full sixties makeup and her Audra Barkley outfit. It's hilarious! Yeah but she sure looks good in those pants.

>Chris, I'm surprised to hear that - I always thought de Toth did a good job with House of Wax, which was also in 3D and was also released in 1953. Do you think de Toth was learning the process along the way? I doubt they were learning as it is late enough in the fad but they may have been experiimenting. What is annoying is that rocks during a chase scene are placed in front of the film. That is not so bad except that when the camera turns the rocks go with the camera. They should go out of the shot but don't. The same thing happens with a fire during the climax. The normal throwing something at the camera is there but not nearly as bad as those two examples.

Beware of "The Stranger Wore A Gun." Directed by Andre de Toth it is a film shot in 3D. It plays badly on TV. Some of the tricks that might have worked in the theater look awful on TV, In fact they make you laugh. Don't forget some of early appearances like "My Favorite Wife" and "Follow The Fleet." There are several outside the westerns.

>Tonight we are going out for a friend's birthday and there is a trivia contest. For once people were happy that I am going with them as they think I will improve their chances. So how did that go? Fair. Some of the most ridiculous questions you might ever come across. Two that threw us (and everyone else I must say) were - Which 70's TV show spawned a spinoff named "Kelly's Kids" that never aired? (Answer - "The Brady Bunch.) The other was what movie based on a literarary title of the same name had Orson Welles last appearance that was released in the 90's? (Answer -"Moby Dick." It was a short film where he played several parts. Obviously someone held onto it and decided to realease it well after his death. History and Geography were equally obscure.

I still have the DVD at home and Dana Kaproff composed the music for it. imdb lists it and it is as I remember it on the DVD. While there may two different versions the end result is the same. I was thinking more along the line of what a typical orchestral arrangement might do but what you get is a quartet consisting of piano, guitar, drums and violin (though fiddle would be more apt.) I hate the sound a fiddle makes. Electric violins are no better. There is little chance for the music to soar when it might need to and almost no chance to be elegant when required. A solo piano more have been more effective. I take nothing away from their talent. Lord knows it is hard enough writing music and to play requires a special gift as well but it just seemed ill-suited much of the time.

>That's also a good point. However if we'd seen them do something truly nasty, it might have been a bit harder to feel sympathy for them later in the movie. Whether or not this is something Ford took into consideration, I do not know. I only mention that because at least in '3 Godfathers" the trio robs a bank and we witness a bit of the chase so one bad deed is given as background. Also, it might have had a different feel if the sheriff wasn't so nasty. But you make a good point as we like them right off.

>Did you watch Hangman's House, too? I saw it years ago but I'm holding on to the DVD to see it in the next day or two. Back to "3BM" for a minute I thought Bull looked at Lee more as a kid sister. He certainly respected her and maybe his background immediately put off any romantic notions. The one drawback, however slight, is the that apart from the wanted posters you have no sense of how bad they are. They do get called on it by the sheriff once and they make an attempt early to steal horses but mostly all you see is that they are big fuzzballs.