movieman1957

> {quote:title=Film_Fatale wrote:}{quote} > Yes, *The Oklahoma Kid* with James Cagney also came out in 1939, but I don't think it was much of a hit. People just weren't really expecting Cagney in a western, I think. It was the hat.

There was "Jesse James" and even "Destry Rides Again" from 1939. (Probably one or two more.) I'm not sure that they were quite the hit that "Stagecoach" was. Didn't we have "The Oklahoma Kid" too?

I'm not even sure if they do it all the time for money. These are people who have worked a long time and sometimes I think it might be for something to do. They can't play golf all the time and they can't sit around all the time. Money is certainly a consideration but not always. Message was edited by: movieman1957

Talking about marching band, a few years ago my kids were in band. One year MOST of the schools, though no theirs, was doing "Pirates of The Caribbean." It didn't take long before I got tired of going. It gets old listening to six bands do the same arrangement.

You're right about those 1930 westerns. They were done cheaply and not always given to much effort, at least from the studio. Having seen a good many of Wayne's movies from the middle 30s they are an odd mix of western style shot with midern themes. Lots of stock footage for chases. (I figured the west must be littered with dead horses who were just run out.) Creaky stories, with creaky casts but once in a hile there was some good action. "Stagecoach" relaunched westerns as you say but I think it took something like "My Darling Clementine" and "Ft. Apache" that really set the whole genre on its march through the 50s that really made it so big. What is the film from the 20's? BTW, did color film pretty much kill noirs? I know they are more than atmosphere but that played such a big part. (If you answered in your noir comment, nevermind. I'm going there to read.)

Yes. That is not to diminsh the effort but sometimes I think they do it because, well, that is what composers do. They might write to keep fresh. I don't think it is a situation that he had fallen out of favor either. I don't know for sure though.

>I bet it took ten men with shotguns standing over him to get this much! In black hats, no doubt.

Mentioning Elmer Bernstein reminded me as I was channel surfing the other morning I came across a movie where his name came on the screen. The movie was "Meatballs." Sometimes I guess there are just jobs. I admire them all. To think how much work goes into writing music is hard enough but when you do it more than 200 times it is a remarkable accomplishment. For a guy who did everything from "To Kill A Mockingbird" to "Animal House" shows a wide range.

Thanks for writing your thoughts. They are very interesting. Did you write anything like this about any other genres?

I love the fight scene in Dunne's apartment with Grant and Duvalle. It happens off camera but the noise lends more to the ferocity of the fight than you could know by seeing it. Bellamy deserves all the credit in the world for playing such a goof. He never stood a chance. Great stuff.

Look young lady, if you can submit as good a schedule as you did in the last programming challenge you will not sound like anything but the well informed movie loving person you are. (BTW - Challenge No. 12 is coming up in the early part of Jan.)

imdb shows he will have worked on four productions this year. The last thing you might know was "A Prairie Home Companion." He also was in Steve Martin's "The Pink Panther." (Which I did not see.) He reminds me of "A Fish Called Wanda" so we'll have John Cleese do Higgins. He can teach Eliza proper English and how to do silly walks.

I don't completely disagree but I don't think there is an American who would be believable enough. Crawford would be fine if he looks old enough and they finally want someone to sing. This being the "Western Movie Rambles" let's movie it to Wyoming and let Kevin Kline do it.

My first thought was Anthony Hopkins but he is probably too old for the part. I really wonder, first, why bother? There is probably some English theater actor who we don't know that would be well equipped for this part. I'm running Masterpiece Theater guys around my head and coming up empty. If they want to make it real fun have Onslow from "Keeping Up Appearances" have the role.

There is also a funny one called "Cattle Drive Quartets" where four cowboys are trying to play Mozart's "A Little Night Music" and they are arguing over the tempo to play it. I have them in a book so I'll see if they can be scanned and put up. I don't know if there is a copyright issue or not. What I will do April is put together as many of the western themed panels I can find and get them to you.

Hi April: I knew I'd forget something but "Wagon Master" is a good example also. Your comment about interrupting music reminds me of a "Far Side" comic panel where it is set in a saloon and you see it from behind the piano player. It shows a man coming into the saloon and the caption shows someone telling the piano player "Bad guy coming, minor key." (or close to that.)

If that is the Bogdonovich documentary than I have it and have watched it. I think Walter Hill may have said it but don't hold me to it.

"Picnicing, Mr. Pennell?" one of my favorite lines because of the way Brittles delivers it. With humor and a little bit condescending at the same time. It is a beautiful picture to see and among Wayne's best performances.

Hi Kathy: Ford westerns are full of music and dancing. It was a way to show the community together. Some that come to mind is the dance in "My Darling Clementine" and the serenade in "Rio Grande" and even the dance in "Two Rode Together." Even "The Searchers" took time out for some music prior to the wedding that didn't happen as I recall. I'm sure there are others but those come to mind right off.

Theresa: Just finished "Prime Suspect 7." Has there been a sadder situation for all involved. You're right that at its most basic it is a terrific cop story. It does a first rate job of keeping you guessing. I was not completely surprised at who did it but it does not spoil the experience. Lives ruined all around. Not just the two primary families but even Jane's chance at new one is met with hurdles that seem they will be hard to overcome. Her family relationships seem at an impasse. Her chance at a friendship is stopped. It was so right for her to go home early. No happy endings here. No neatly packaged summation of the series. Just the sadness of not knowing what tomorrow will hold. No one to call. No where to go. Another day to struggle through.

>but she didnt wish to tell anyone of this, and i think i understand why partly. Why? Will I find this out in "7"? If not why do you think she keeps all this buried?

There are many intriguing aspects to "Prime Suspect." First it's a good cop story. Everything flows after that. Then there is her quest to overcome to male dominated management rankings. Her passion, dedication and vulnerability make her a most interesting character. Her work fulfills her. Her private life cannot be what she wants so she becomes her work. Theresa: It is a similar situation with "Cracker." First rate stories with a great lead. Robbie Coltrane is the biggest SOB but the smartest guy around. The interviews with the suspects are worth watching on their own. He is a deeply flawed man who is constantly screwing up his family life but he finds some kind of refuge in his work. He's more the bull in a china shop guy. He'd rather drink and gamble then anything but when the local ppolice come calling everyone had better look out. Among the best of that series was "To Be A Somebody." Very intense and partly based on a true story.

Thank you April. That is very kind of you.

From the files of "You Never Know When It Will Be On Again" I have a friend who years ago taped "Good Sam" (probably from AMC) and was happy to be able to put it on a DVD because I don't know that it has been shown in years. Luckily we get to watch it every now and then.

I think if you run the cable to the VCR (one that records) and then to the TV you should be able to record. At least I used to do it that way. Didn't we have this conversation before?