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Hi April: Sorry I missed your question yesterday. I don't remember the last time anyone showed "Showdown." However, TCM, I'm pretty sure, did show "Silver River" not long ago. Flynn is not a very nice guy in that one. A change of pace for him. I would imagine it will turn up again. Me

>and a pumpkin filled with M&M's. Ah, the perfect gift. Happy Birthday. (Try not to eat them all at once.) October birthdays are special.

Good for you April. The Westerns channel, I think, showed "Straight Shooting" a few years ago and I liked it. You should like "Men WIthout Women" (again another bad title) better than the submarine picture ("Seas Beneath") I saw recently.

I meant in westerns as far as Frank is concerned. He is great in many of his films but westerns were not his strong suit. Sorry I wasn't more clear. Dean was good in "The Young Lions" but he didn't do many dramas. Frankly, I thought he was sleepwalking through most of his Matt Helm movies (not that they qualify as dramas.) I think he Dean made a better cowboy though.

I saw "5 Card Stud" years ago but I don't remember much about it. He also made "Showdown" shortly after that one. You make an interesting point about Martin in westerns. There is nothing leading up to his first one (Rio Bravo?) that would give any indication that he would work in this genre. Terrific singer. Almost as crazy as Lewis in his own way. He could do drama but it would still seem an unusual fit but he pulled it off. Sinatra may have been to Jersey and a bigger reputation than Martin but I don't think he was near as believable as Martin. Speaking of "Showdown," Rock Hudson should have been a great western actor but I never found him all that great. He sure looked that part but he was much better suited to those comedies.

No, I haven't seen "The Oklahoman." I'll keep an eye out. Taped "Four Faces West" so I'll be watching that one again soon. Ever seen "The Guns At Ft. Petticoat"? I thought it was ok but they couldn't have picked a worse title. Anything with Hope Emerson is going to be fun at some point.

*I grew up watching this on TV and loved it mostly because of the bull...what was his name? It's on the tip of my tongue...* Vindicator. He was very cooperative when they whistled "God Save The Queen."

Another great idea. I've seen "The Last Hunt" twice and you are quite right about the ending. Though I didn't like the movie as much the second time. One for your list might be "Gunman's Walk." It stars Van Heflin who has some trouble with his boys. Some late Joel McCrea westerns are starting to turn up too. You know about "Trooper Hook" but I've also seen "Gunsight Ridge" and it is ok but not great. "The Outriders" is a pretty good action picture set right at the end of the Civil War. TCM is showing "The Tall Stranger" on OnDemand but it isn't is widescreen so it is a bit of a distraction so I haven't watched much of it.

What are you eating before you go to bed? Stossel used to be on "20/20" years ago. Now he is a columnist and a potential bridegroom in your dreams.

See, I can too boil water. Just not very well.

"Springfield Rifle" has shown up on the Westerns Channel from time to time. It's been a while since I've seen it but I remember it being ok. Nothing to get real excited over but if you're looking for something new to see from Gary it will do.

Re: "The Streets of Laredo." Good performance by Garner. Surprising work from George Carlin. At times it is fairly graphic but it is a good story if a bit long. Worth a look, I think.

Kathy: What you mentioned is pretty much what Encore Westerns is all about. The main problem is, at least recently, is that they show too many of the same shows too often and not enough variety of movies. But I'd rather have it than not. The PLEX channel that was mentioned is a channel that rotates the schedules from the other Encore channels. Mystery, Love, Action turn up on different days of the week.

Count me among The Beatles faithful. I enjoy all the films. I like "Help" as it just fun. I've seen "Let It Be" as well. I saw it in the theater. At times a sad and revealing film but also fun in the music made.

Kathy: The most recent version of "Purple Sage" is the only one I have seen. Like April said you have a good start as I can come up with others too. I hope you will share your thoughts as you go through the list. Chris

Kathy: If you want to talk about Fogelberg's music I'm happy to. I was not fond of his country album but I have nearly everything else. He could write such sweet gentle songs that really spoke to me but he could rock pretty well too. He had such a range in his writing that helped make his music so interesting. Chris

I taped a movie today (Vivacious Lady) and the rating box did have the guitar playing under it. It also seemed shorter but that may just be me.

Kyle: You must be mortified. I hope you can save it. That is a lot of work to lose. Good luck.

April: The actress I was thinking of is Ann Rutherford. She starred with Duke in "The Oregon Trail."

Kathy: I don't really have a list as I came in the middle of this conversation. Besides from what I've seen everyone has well covered the ladies in question. I mentioned my favorite was Maureen O'Hara. After that....in no particular order. Marlene Dietrich Gail Russell Claire Trevor Ella Raines Lauren Bacall Patricia Neal Colleen Dewhurst (pretty good in a couple of cameos) Vera Miles Jean Arthur Claudette Colbert A couple of my favorite Duke moments come from "She Wore A Yellow Ribbon." "Picnicing Mr. Pinnell?" And when he reads the writing on the watch. Can anyone not cry? The banter between Duke and McLaglen. More "moments" later.

Yep.

"The SIlver Horde" is a drama. It is set in the fishing industry in Alaska. This is well before Jean was a star. You will find an equally young Joel McCrea.

"No. You don't have enough hair for those cute little curls like mine."

Hi April: Ralston was in either "Lady For A Night" or "Lady From Louisiana" both rather forgettable. I don't remember about Ralston and Yates for sure but I do recall there being someone mentioned in that capactiy. You are probably right. "Three Faces West" was ok but I don't remember it as being a great pairing either. I remember he had a movie from the early 30's with someone who later became a star but her name escapes me. I'll have to go through the list now.

>Anyone thinking of one of those old B pictures in that group is doing some thinking. I just realized how dumb that sentence sounds but I'm glad you got my point. Part of the interesting things about some Duke films was the contrast in his leading ladies. That was no accident. You mention Hepburn but there was also Dietrich. Her European background played nicely against Duke's good 'ol American guy. Out of all the women Maureen O'Hara was my favorite Duke lady. She was as strong and as stubborn as he could be. A test of wills made for good cinema. Whether it was "The Quiet Man" or "Rio Grande" or even a small role in "Big Jake" she was not going to be pushed around. Overall a nice variety of ladies.