movieman1957
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To my knowledge this film hasn't been shown in a long time on any channel. I have a friend who has an old copy from AMC or really early TCM. Don't be surprised if it doesn't show up again this year.
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I've seen it as well. It's not a movie that turns up very often but I think if you like these two it's worth seeing. Wayne is certainly in a different element.
You mentioned your view of older actors not seeming to have problems like today's stars- well, they did. In many cases their problems were easier to conceal. There were drinking problems, affairs, brushes with the law. The studios were often able to hide them.
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Dawn:
The basic story is Gail drank herself to death. Someone wrote a very good post on her here somewhere (which I haven't found yet) that said she was not comfortable being an actress and didn't really want to be one. (For some reason I think the sudio wanted her to be the next Hedy Lamarr.)
She struggled with fright and then alcolholism whicj eventually killed her at age 36.
She also starred with Wayne in "Wake of The Red Witch."
Here's a link for you: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0751149/bio
(I'll try and find the other post.)
Chris
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Dawn:
This is one of the more under rated Wayne movies. It's a wonderful little film. It's one I'm anxious for my daughter to see because of the effect Russell's character has on Wayne. Duke is good and Gail is wonderful (and beautiful). It's about love over coming.
My favorite scene is when he wakes up and the bit of flirting that goes on between them and then Gail's talk with the mother about her and her father. Part of Gail's charm is in her knowing she can reform Wayne. And so she does. It's delightful.
Chris
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Capra was good at making us cry, wasn't he? It is a terrific film. You will find discussions on Gary Cooper (see the "Hot Topics" forum.) Stanwyck is a favorite of many as well. (You might search the forums under those names if you're interested.)
Cooper is so right for this part. I can't imagine anyone else playing the part. He's just shy enough (and gullible) to make the character work. It's been a year or two since I've seen it but I don't think the character is a big departure from Longfellow Deeds.
Also, welcome to the boards. Hope you'll have fun.
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"Our Vines..." is a wonderful movie. It was the first movie I saw where Robinson wasn't a gangster. It's a lovely film and you should keep a look out for it.
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A TV movie I remember fondly is "The Blue Knight" with William Holden. Like some others mentioned, I haven't seen it in forever.
Made for TV are most likely to show up on Encore compared to any other channel I know unless you count Lifetime Movie Channel. (Don't really watch that one.)
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Jack:
Our local PBS station is sponsoring it as part of a reading promotion.
Chris
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Pardon the interruption but I wanted to chime in that happy news does happen.
Tomorrow the Senator Theater in Baltimore is having two free showings of "To Kill A Mockingbird." Even better is they are also giving away free copies of the book.
The Senator is our "classic" movie theater. They don't get to do this too often so here is thanks when they do.
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I remember Marty and Steve. Marty's was a face you don't forget. He was pretty funny. Rossi I remember having a nice singing voice. Rossi did play Vegas and other places with and without Marty later. (see imdb.com)
I liked to see actors who played well against type. I couldn't tell you what it was but I remember Allen playing a rather dramatic role (I don't think it was "Big Valley.") Westerns on TV were a great place for comedians or singers to show off some of their acting abilities.
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HI candybutton:
You're welcome to jump in anytime. you're part of the group now. If you want to read some other postings about Wayne check out the westerns forum under the tread "This may be blasphemy..." People are talking about his acting there.
http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?threadID=98273&tstart=0
Chris
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Anne:
I'm with you. I enjoy different things about each of them. I like Caan better than Nelson. I like Brenner better than Hunnicut (although Arthur is pretty good.) Mitchum better than Martin.
Angie in a teddy works for me. (She's too young for Duke though.)
I can take either one.
Chris
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Anne:
I haven't seen it in a long time but I remember I didn't like it as well as "Sheriff." One thing was I kept wanting everybody to be the same people as "Sheriff." When you get that many of the same people in another movie it was hard for me to keep up as new characters.
I don't remember but just from watching the trailer it looks as if Pleshette (whom I like) is a bit over the top with her performance. What did you think?
Chris
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Thanks Mike. I looked on imdb and probably looked at the title but nothing about the square dance was in the summary so I left it. I probably taped it off of the tv.
Never once did I feel compelled to whomp my brothers with all my might, even after seeing this cartoon.
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Lynn:
I only meant that the overwhelming total number of hours programmed with western themes may have helped burn itself out by the mid 60's. I certainly didn't want to leave the impression that I thought the quality wasn't that good.
I agree it was a great proving ground for plenty of people. For many that's where they learned their craft. (You don't get to see "The Virginian" anywhere, although I did see McCrea's version the other day.)
I also agree with your list of stars but as many of them were making what few westerns there were to be made I was more thinking of those you listed under the "Deadwood" cast. (I couldn't keep up with "Deadwood" as I kept finding early episodes only to have watched them out of order.) I was glad to know McRainey was in the show.
Powers Booth can be one of the nastiest actors ever. He's terrific. "Conagher" with Sam Elliott is one of my wife's favorite movies. (Elliott makes her swoon.) Westerns are my favorite genre so I enjoy reading your comments. Thanks.
Chris
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The only time I know it to be shown is Christmas Eve or in the week before. I've seen it between movies and in a Cartoon Alley depending on where in the week Christmas falls.
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One of my favorites is "Bedtime for Sniffles." It's Christmas Eve and he has to stay awake for Santa. It's not drop dead funny but it's cute and I like his house and all the small "people" mad things he uses for furniture. At my house Christmas isn't over until we watch it.
Many Bugs Bunny cartoons but I think I like the one (and I couldn't find the title) but he gets caught in a Hatfield/McCoy like feud and it all ends up in a square dance.
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Thanks for the explanation. This is why you are so vital to this board. Thank Mr. Cutter for sharing you with us.
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It's interesting you point out the westerns on TV. The total number of hours of westerns was staggering. I think that was a prime reason the western almost died. You had a few non-Wayne films but overall the genre almost came to a halt.
After "The Shootist" there wasn't really much going on until "Pale Rider." "Silverado" comes about the same time but that didn't really light things up. "Dances With Wolves" breeds "Unforgiven" but I think the biggest success in westerns after that (save for "Tombstone") was Tom Selleck and his series of films for TNT. They were among the highest rated programs for them and I think he did a lot to keep westerns alive. Even "Lonesome Dove" didn't seem to generate as much interest as it should have. TV killed it and then saved it.
Who do we have now that could be those great cowboys? (I don't know.) And would anybody directing a western go back and watch the masters or are they going to study Tarantino?
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Thanks for a well written lead to an interesting topic. Like you I think the Mann/Stewart westerns are quite good. My favorites are "Winchester '73" and "The Man From Laramie."
Two more that I like and might fit this are "Warlock" and "The Tin Star." They both star Henry Fonda. "Warlock" is complex and in a way odd for the premise of the film is Fonda (and by extension Anthony Quinn) are hired to be sheriff of a town full of trouble. Quinn's character is exceedingly loyal to Fonda (to a fault.) The way that the roles of Fonda and Richard Widmark, in a sense, reverse as the movie goes along is, for me, pretty interesting. Widmark is terrific. Throw in Dorothy Malone, who has a past with Fonda, and it's even more interesting.
"The Tin Star" is not quite so complex, in fact it's pretty straightforward, but the aged veteran teaching the young kid for me is interesting for what he teaches not to do. It's not always about guns and being the toughest. It's a job full of nuances. Sometimes it's about being smart and knowing when to leave things alone.
Chris
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> There should be other
> ways to handle personal disagreements that won't
> affect others!
There is a way. It's called Private Messages.
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Thanks so much for answering.
I'm not a big Stravinsky fan but our preferences seem to run in the same neighborhood.
Do you think 60 secs is enough time to compose a representative theme for the film as well as your ability? I understand they have to cut it off somewhere but....
Have you scored any films or is this a contest for nonprofessionals?
One more, do you think when you watch a film you might spend more time concentrating on the score than you might the plot? Are you thinking - "Why did he do that?" during some scenes?
Good luck. Let us know if you win (since we only know you by your screen name.)
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Harper Lee wote it.
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Bronxgirl48:
I care that you feel the need to leave, even if only for a short time. I care when anyone feels they have either been run off directly or by the fultility of participating. The fact that only having been here five weeks and have already had your fill ought to tell some people something.
If we could only keep the fighting to one thread......
Check back in.
Chris
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