movieman1957
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*You could view that from the Christian side of the ledger, "being touched by Christ," or you could just say it's having something in life worth caring about and caring for. On both levels, the film works. Still, this doesn't mean it's going to thrill me. And the constant close-ups of the baby are not going to interest me.*
Though it is there it does not need to have a Christian element in the true sense of the word. It is enough that there is a baby that needs caring. This brings out the better nature of the men. A conflict between Pedro and Duke might have given it more bite, They are criminals after all so some deeper arguing over the child might have helped. As I recall they all go mushy when they find the baby.
Doing the kind of work Wayne did going through the canyon must seem awkward when you are doing in front of a film crew. He did a fine job.
*I really did feel their struggle. This is both good and bad. The good is, it made their struggle without water seem realistic and painful.*
It did look realistic and there is credit to the detail for that but if all they are doing is looking for water it can get boring.
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I tend to agree with a good bit of what you say about "3 Godfathers." I have not seen it recently though it is in my stack to watch but I am with you on the first part of the film. I like the playfulness with Perley and the escape. And once Mildred shows up, who looks too old to me to be a mother (even though my grandmother was 49 when my father was born) the film runs out of steam.
We have a long way to go with the three of them arguing over the baby. (And lots of times when whatever happens should have hurt the baby.) It's a long trip.
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>Oh. Wagons
And if they are on their way somewhere a river crossing is required,
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It's raw at times. They weren't having Bible study on those film locations. Some of it is pretty funny. It is good reading about things you already know about.
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>Not nearly enough cowboy hats to qualify for a Western, I think.
Hadn't thought of that but, come to think of it, you're right.
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Well, it is set in East Germany.
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There are a couple of threads going already. The song is "Headlights" sung by Shirley Hunger. If you want here is a link to one of the threads.
http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?threadID=157024&tstart=0
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I would debate that "Gettysburg" (which I also remember being released on TV and then theatrically) is not a western. It would have nothing to do with Pennsylvania as much as it is a specific time and date and its historical place. I also don't really consider "Shenandoah" a western in the real sense of the word either.
They have elements of them based on their place in time. I think someone described "Drums Along The Mohawk" (MissG?) as a "frontier" film. I'd put these closer to that listing even if the name doesn't exactly fit it.
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>(I also have McClintock on the DVR, should I see it?)
That all depends. Several of us enjoy it for what it is. It is a fun romp It may be set as a western but it is more a comedy than anything.
Sir Francis (frankgrimes) hated it. I find it fun to watch Wayne and O'Hara. They butt heads as they play a divorced couple brought together by the return from school of their daughter. (It is based on "The Taming of The Shrew.)
It might be worth a look but there is nothing real serious about it.
Edited by: movieman1957 on Dec 28, 2010 11:08 AM
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>And you are right.. That Maddy IS something, isn't she??? I have to confess I have a "love/hate" thing going on with her.. she wears old PRETTY quick with that mouth of hers so she DOES usually get on my nerves (about the time they are in the woods and she is trying to come up w/ ideas for them to catch Cheney) But I LOVE the "formal" exchanges she has when she is talking business (like when she was dealing w/ Strother Martin and also dealing w/ Cogburn too) the language she uses is priceless. ha. VERY "uppity" for such a "gritty gal" And you bring up a good point that she IS Gritty. I love when she is crossing that river (because they won't let her on the ferry) and Rooster sees her and starts laughing and says "She reminds me of me" It's one of my favorite lines.
A couple of times she is quite likable but more often than not she is a pain. By far the scene with Martin about the horses is the best for her and her command of the language. There is even a tender moment or two with Duke but overall less would have been fine.
Campbell, on the other hand, was in over his head.
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Courtesy of our friend "Kyle in Hollywood" the song is "Headlights' performed by Sophie Hunger.
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He's a proud dad.
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They did a Marx Brothers New Years Eve about 9 years ago as well. It's as good an idea as the Thin Man or any other marathon you might consider. I have all the movies but won't mind at all spending some time with Minnie's boys.
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I think "audreyforever had it right. The day after Christmas and a Sunday at that you'd think lots of families would still be together and looking for something they could all watch.
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Good thing my daughter isn't at your house. Mo would throw things out before they ever got to Alice's preferred state. Mo is the "Refrigerator Nazi." Nothing is safe.
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Never mind.
Edited by: movieman1957 on Dec 25, 2010 7:55 AM
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I just read stunt man Chuck Roberson's autobiography. He and his horse paired up for years doing falls. He trained his horse, Cocaine, to fall on cue. He said the two of them probably did more falls than any other combo in film history. He was often the Indian falling in one shot and then the cowboy falling in the next.
Many horses were trained to do specific stunts and if done right they could do them all day.
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I'm not smart enough to know about closeups and shot composition to know whether they are right or not. I'll leave that aside. However, some of the landscape shots are just gorgeous.
I can tell you Ben Johnson did that Roman style ride. I don't know if Jarman did. For all I know it was Johnson again in a blonde wig right up to where he falls off. Johnson was a first rate stunt man and Rodeo champ.
I agree about the music on "Rio Grande." A little is okay but there can be too much. I would pleasantly disagree about Maureen. I think she is fine. I can imagine a upper class mother having a fit about her under age son running off and doing anything to get him back,
Just for the record it is McLaglen. Everybody's favorite "uncle" but he has a fine dramatic history in his work and it would have been nice to use more of it.
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I don't wonder if somewhere in the west that style of speech was the order of the day. I have watched "Deadwood" and except for how foul the language is the pattern and the wording would follow a similar style. If anything about "Deadwood" is bothersome, other than their incessant use of certain four letter words, it is that too many of the people speak the same way. I find it hard to think that so many people were similarly educated.
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It looks like him but the lady and the quality of the picture don't look to be back in the early 30s. I think that most likely is someone else.
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Ladies, you talked me down. For chocolate chip cookies and the chance to ramble on "3 Godfathers" with you I will be here.
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Wow. What a day. I didn't get to hardly any of it. I have most of them and then managed to miss the early early Wayne film. My day wasn't nearly as interesting as yours. But somewhere along the way we will ramble about as many as you want.
I'm off to try and wrap the last few presents for Carolann and if I don't just go jump off the house it will be a miracle. Man, my head hurts.
Save me a chocolate chip cookie.
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I think Grant may have done some of the basic movies but you get into the more complicated stuff there seems to me enough difference that there was a double.
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Sibelius' 4th Symphony. It's been a while for this one. It has a lovely first and third movement lead with violas and cellos. Not so much themes as motifs and atmosphere. A lively second movement almost seems out of place. The finale is more like the second movement and thing all ends rather abruptly.
I am more a fan of the traditional 2nd and 5th.
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January certainly won't be the same old stuff. I had been wondering where all those shorts had been. It now looks like they were getting them ready.
I know Charley Chase, Laurel & Hardy and Thelma Todd may not be too everyone's taste but it sure is different.