movieman1957

I don't about Crawford's but some, if you didn't know, credit that stride to Paul Fix.

The question really is whether Knotts deserves a block of movies. I do not. However, calling anyone an idiot, whether you like the movies or not, is kind of and idiotic thing to do considering you didn't know who programs the selections.

So, does that make it your favorite Beatles' song? If not which one?

No. Sorry, I already occupy that chair.

>When the above are being shown, I don't watch TCM at all. I switch to Fox Movie Classics, AMC, etc. No wonder you don't like what TCM is showing.

I saw it on the TCM HD channel. I thought the same thing. It looked great. It is one of my favorites. I didn't stick around for the whole thing but it looked wonderful. I'd love to see it on a theater screen.

>I didn't mean to suggest Maltin was ancient. But he definitely attracts the over 45 demographic. We are not quite as irrelevant as the world would have us.

I was thinking that there would always be one more for Bowie because he couldn't really tell the others no. You are quite right about Chickama being offered the money by Bowie. I know he loved Keechie but it still wasn't enough to make him abandon the plan. Alas, your memory serves you better than mine does me. I only thought that everything was fine as long as the money held out. Maybe working for a regular salary wouldn't appeal to him until the baby shows up. There's the change if only he would have made it that far. However, with so many of you on the one thought wave I either missed something or maybe misinterpreted things.

On some films he may be doing both. It may be "filler" until it's done.

I loved enough of them that I was in danger of reposting your schedule.

>It's a fine schedule, and I'm grateful to have it posted so promptly. Thanks, TCM programmer, whoever you are. That would be Charles Tabesh. He even posts here once in a while.

"To Baldly Go" is a great title. Everything is wonderful but there is little like a great pun.

It sounds like Christmas is coming about six weeks late but at least it will be here.

I did get the sense that Bowie's agreeing to do the last job was that it would be the last job. He was going to help them. His loyalty to them overrides his commitment to Keechie. I felt that there would always have to be one more job. I think that with the deaths of his partners he might have had the chance to break away from his life but what happens when the money runs out. BTW, thanks, Edited by: movieman1957 on Nov 11, 2010 6:37 PM

Having reread nearly everything on "They Live By Night" it seems there is little to add and certainly nothing that can be improved on. You and all the others have reached a depth to it I wonder if even Ray had. My little summary was that we are following a schizophrenic marriage born of a group of very sad people. They find love as much by necessity as luck. There is no real peace. There is no real quiet. What little of either they get is fleeting. They only have now and even that goes quickly. In the end no one gets what they want. You know it can't end well. Bowie is all over the place. He is tender with Keechie, tough with others and naive early one especially when he wants to get that lawyer. What makes him think he can use stolen money to pay for a lawyer. Even if he could get his sentence reduced he has already committed other crimes that land him right back where he started. He is not so innocent or misunderstood that he is going to return the money. He is so fixated on it that he carries nearly everywhere he goes. No qualms about living on it. His sense of decency is rather misplaced since he is willing to pull another job with the guys. Keechie is a mystery. She is plain, annoyed, caught up in a family she wants no part of. When she begins to have feelings for Bowie I get the sense there is a little thinking she can get away as much as there is someone who is interest in her. She cleans up well. One thing that struck me about the cars is I think half the movies was in cars or following them. More than enough helicopter shots of driving than I have seen in some time. I said more than I planned. Even though I seem to have a rather different opinion on our young lovers I did like the movie. I didn't cry like our Divine MissG because the end was obvious. I think for its time the end was required. At a minimum it was bound to happen.

Thanks for the response. Isn't it odd, but interesting, how we have looked at the same two films and found the religious aspect completely reversed? I may be more making the point about the way Peck is being persuaded and the religious content of the film, directed, at the viewer or not, than what I saw as a character driven directive in "Hell's Hinges." It makes this interesting though. >I believe many twist religion to fit their beliefs. We're always trying to make the modern fit the ancient. People like the Amish truly try while most really look to twist. The faith doesn't seem to be strong enough, hence the need for violence. I'll agree with the first sentence but politely disagree with the second. For my own view the ancient can fit very well with the modern. "Twisting" has been going on as long as their have been people and I doubt we'll come to the end of it either. I also like the fact that Peck has to deal with how he has gone about his "work." He takes responsibility for it. He knows he'll have to deal with it. The outcome, however justified from the town's sake, isn't enough to assuage his guilt. Admitting his error would be the first thing to do to forgive himself. (Yet another religious aspect.) Ah, "Liberty Valance" again. Interesting but somehow not surprising?

*They Live By Night is on tomorrow, November 1st, at 11:15 AM ET.* *It will be followed at 1:00 PM ET by the other Farley Granger/Cathy O'Donnell pairing, Side Street, directed by Anthony Mann.* It is funny that TCM put it in that way because today I got the DVD from Netflix and they are on it together. I have been reading through the comments and if there is anything left to say I might give it a run after I watch it tonight or tomorrow. You all are a hard act to follow.

To my eye she looks to be on the horse.

Here is a link with some info on the composer. http://www.answers.com/topic/gottfried-huppertz

I've seen "The Law and Jake Wade" and it is not all that great. I like Widmark in westerns but this one is a bit odd. "Rio Bravo" has been chatted on (certainly in this very thread) but new comments are always welcome. Keep it close by.

118. It wasn't enough that Ernie just got some bad news he also got his bill.

One thing that did strike me was the religious aspect of the film especially early on. A town ready to have its first hanging is all about going to church the night before. I assume it is a Saturday but my Catholic knowledge is marginal. Is it regular attendance or related to the hanging coming. From Josefa's imploring Douglass to speak to "another lady" to help him. The guard asking to get off early to go to church and then offering a prayer for the gang. Well meaning but very naive. The most striking part for me as the church service and the choir dominating the sound/music part of this scene while the gang breaks out of jail and kills the guard. In a kind of odd way it reminded me of the scene in "The Godfather" when the baby is being christened while Pacino's men are wiping out his enemies. Peck comes back to his faith only when he finds out his mistake. The guilt is overwhelming. I find the town's reaction to him odd as they don't care that he made this mistake (not that they didn't have it coming because they did) they seem happy he relieved them of their burden of disposing these men. From their perspective there is nothing to forgive. He must come to terms with his justice being wrong and forgiving himself.

You and Sir Francis are overwhelming with your analysis. Like you, I didn't lose my position on Jett until he had "made it." At a point, for me, it seemed about just being bigger than Bick. Then he seemed drunk all the time. Then his lame pass at Luz (Baker.) He just quit being any kind of sensible person. I wanted to make one "staging" observation. There is a point early on where Bick and Leslie are having a discussion at the fireplace. He is sitting. She is leaning against a post. The interesting thing is that he is in the light and she is hidden in a shadow. Later on when they are discussing the children's college life and are in the separate beds they each have there own bedside lights. She turns hers off to put her in the shadow. His is left on to keep him in the light. I can only imagine it is to point out the differences between them. I thought the bed situation funny as well. Later on they are in separate beds but early, though not in bed together, everything is based on a single bed. And the one part where they have clearly had a lovely evening I thought was a rather bold, for its day, display of a married couple enjoying the rewards of their relationship.

Not so much more but since there is no religious role for a person, like the man who was studying to be the priest in "HH", it seems pretty prominent than not having a religious role. Thanks for the article. I usually read his blog but had not looked in the last week or so. Edited by: movieman1957 on Nov 3, 2010 12:35 PM

I did. I found the religious aspects much more in the front then "Hell's Hinges" (I almost forgot what movie we were debating that topic over.) At least when there is no religious figure involved. Lord, I hate getting old.