movieman1957
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As I recall it was written to be played outdoors and for a military band. I am not sure it was so much a funeral as the bodies of the soldiers being honored had been exhumed and brought back to Paris. (That is based on my recollection of the liner notes on my record album.)
I believe there was a later arrangement that added strings but am not sure and have certainly never heard it so that may not be accurate. In my recording of it there is no chorus near the end of the piece so that was a surprise for me.
Glad to know you went to the time and trouble to listen. Thanks for writing about it.
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>and I'm babbling now so I'll stop.
Please babble on. (pun intended.)
Pardon me while I do the same for a minute. As your comment about a hundred year old film still giving such deep thought I think it is amazing (and wonderful) that this thread has over 6000 replies in a little over two years. (It also has nearly 140,000 views.)
It is a grand thing that the people here speak so eloquently and deeply about what may seem the most narrow of genres. This is, by far, my favorite thread. I have learned a great deal from everyone about these films. Everyone has made it interesting and fun. Thanks to all.
Back to "Hell's Hinges."
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I have lots of them I really like but if my favorites are those that I watch more often then (in no particular order)
The Big Country
The Searchers
Shane
The Tall T
Silverado
Liberty Valance
The Man From Laramie
Jubal....
3 Bad Men
and almost anything by Anthony Mann
There are others but I like most westerns. In fact a bad western is still somewhat enjoyable.
MissG:
I saw "Rawhide" on your list and that is one I have always liked, It could fit into several genres. A rather odd title but it is full of suspense and the evil Jack Elam. Good stuff.
Sir Francis:
Unrelated topic. I saw a new Samuel Fuller movie last night. "Fixed Bayonets." Another tense Korean War saga.
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I like many of the Bond films. There are some I don't really care for like "The Man With The Golden Gun" and "Moonraker." "Live and Let Die" is no great shakes for me but I like to watch most all the others.
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Some of yours I haven't heard of. "Powderkeg"?
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No way I can compete but here is what I have....
3:10 To Yuma - 1957
3:10 To Yuma - 2007
7 Men From Now
Angel and The Bad Man
Bend Of The River
The Big Country
Big Jake
The Bravados
Buchanan Rides Alone
Cheyenne Autumn
Cheyenne Social Club
Chisum
Colorado Territory
Comanche Station
The Comancheros
Conagher
Dances With Wolves
Dark Command
Day Of The Outlaw
Devil's Doorway
El Dorado
Escape From Ft. Bravo
The Far Country
The Fastest Gun Alive
Firecreek
Four Faces West
Ft. Apache
Ft. Defiance
Ft. Massacre
Gunfight At The OK Corral
The Gunfighter
Gunsight Ridge
The Hanging Tree
Hangman's Knot
High Noon
High Plains Drifter
Hondo
The Horse Soldiers
How The West Was Won
Jubal
Last Train From Gun Hill
Last Stand At Saber River
The Lawless Street
The Man From Laramie
Man of The West
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Monte Walsh - 2003
The Naked Spur
Night Passage
No Name On The Bullet
North To Alaska
Once Upon A Time In The West
Open Range
The Outriders
The Ox Bow Incident
Pale Rider
The Professionals
The Quick and The Dead - 1987
The Quick and The Dead - 1995
Ramrod
Red River
Ride Lonesome
Rio Grande
Rio Bravo
Rooster Cogburn
The Searchers
Sergeant Rutledge
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Shenandoah
The Shootist
Silverado
The Spoilers
Stagecoach
Stars In My Crown
Support Your Local Sheriff
Tall In The Saddle
Tall Man Riding
The Tall T
The Tin Star
Tombstone
Tribute To A Bad Man
Trooper Hook
True Grit
Two Rode Together
Unforgiven
Wagon Master
The War Wagon
Warlock
Westbound
Westward The Women
Will Penny
Wincehster '73
Yellow Sky
Also some Wayne "B" films. There may even be a couple I've forgotten. Many DVD-Rs here.
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While that wikipedia site is good remember it is not everything. Stick with this group and we'll get rounfd to them all.
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You listed "Wagon Train" with Tim Holt. Was that the one? (You're too young to start that kind of thing,)
The funny thing about those old "B" westerns is that some of the music is all synthesizer. The other is that there seems to be an inordinate amount of time watching chase scenes. Some of those films have the best or most dangerous looking stunts. They are fun.
I'm not fond of either "Cimarron" either. Richard Dix is so over the top, as I recall. The later version is long and not all that exciting.
Don't tell anyone but there are three or four on your list I haven't seen.
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Sir Francis is going to have a stroke that you like "Star Packer" better than "Once Upon A Time...." Interesting that you have "Cimarron" and "Cimarron" next to each other. Too bad "Gunfight At The OK Corral" is so low. I like that one.
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Ollie:
Congratulations from me to for 1000 fine contributions. Now you need to get cracking if you are going to keep up with MissG.
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A short list maybe but it is full of good films. I bet you've seen plenty.
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I went through that list and off of what I remember (and keeping in mind that his list isn't complete which I can verify) I have seen 226 of those movies through the 60s since that was your cut off.
There are several I can think of right away that aren't on his list. There are also several I wouldn't have classified as westerns though they are set in that form. Comedies he listed like "Go West" by the Marx Brothers and "Ride 'Em Cowboy" from Abbott and Costello would be comedies for me.
Maybe I'll get time to go through my own list this weekend.
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>Look at how they categorize Rancho Notorious. I didn't think it was that kind of western, at all.
Now, that is funny. If I have to categorize them even more finely it might be more than I could do.
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130? I doubt I have that many. Now I have to go home and count. I'd say with that many you're going to be busy for awhile.
I should figure how many I've seen.
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I'm old. I've had plenty of time.
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The relationship between Fonda and Quinn may be one of the most unusual in film. No matter the underlying characteristics it is interesting.
Widmark is really good too.
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You have done well on your own list. Little gems can be found along the way now.
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Thank you.
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I forgot to mention that Carolann was caught completely off guard by the baby. It didn't occur to her that the relationship could have turned sexual. (Even my daughter wondered since they couldn't get a bed together when they got married.)
Queen Maven:
Great essay.
I never doubted for a minute that she wasn't really married. I felt her resistance to Webb was genuine but at least he paid attention to her. She wanted to play both ends. Have her lover and her nice house. That was the ultimate contrast for her at the end.She goes from a lovely home to and abandoned town that is just short of falling down around her.
The lead characters often have unsettled lives because those of us who do have a settled life and mired in routine. Routine does not equal excitement.
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There are some more but here are some with which you can carry on (if you want.) In no particular order -
Ride The High Country - Randolph Scott and Joel McCrea (sentimental Star of The Month fave.)
Duel At Diablo - James Garner and Sidney Poitier.
Colorado Territory - Joel McCrea and Virginia Mayo
The Tin Star - Henry Fonda and Anthony Perkins
Gunfight At The OK Corral - Burt Lancaster and Kirk Dounglas
Last Train From Gun Hill - Kirk Douglas and Anthony Quinn
Union Pacific - Barbara Stanwyck and Joel McCrea
Ride Lonesome - Randolph Scott
The Bravados - Gregory Peck
Yellow Sky - Gregory Peck
Warlock - Henry Fonda, Anthony Quinn and Richard Widmark.
Maybe not all biggies but I would think worthy to include on your list. (There are some good discussions in there too.)
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Is your list indicating you have only seen 59 western films? (I like that the three "river" movies are together.)
Re: "I Remember Mama." To be honest it doesn't exactly sound like your cup of tea but it is a highly regarded film so I think one viewing is in order. Afterwards, somewhere on here, you can tell us what you think.
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"The Grass Is Greener" is an odd but fun film. Everyone is so British about things when Mitchum shows up and disrupts their very British lives.
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I never quite bought Bel Geddes as a match for Mitchum. She just doesn't seem quite right. While tom boy maybe the right word for her it also implies an immaturity born of age. Nothing wrong with it as much as Mitchum might be inclined toward a stronger older woman. Oh, and the sister, stuck up is exactly it.
BTW, "I Remember Mama" is a lovely film. It being Carolann's favorite may not be a selling point but if you have any interest in good family type films and Irene Dunne then at least one viewing is in order.
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Thank you Ollie. That is a wonderful thing to know.
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