movieman1957
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I think you are right.
MissG:
I think in a way what was done here to the boy and his father is worse than "OUATITW." (And for its day probably more shocking.) It's not enough to do that to the boy but then to add the complete disrespect of them both by where they end up seems even more cruel.
In a way "OUATITW" explains why "Frank" had to do what he did. Now the boy knows him by name. "The Tall T" probably would base the reasoning on the same principle but the "proper" thing to do is the boy in "West" is likely to get a proper burial. (Not that it entered Frank's mind as much as he couldn't bother to bury the boy or his family.) Boone's decision goes an extra step. We almost can't of anyone being THAT evi
(And we both picked up on Scott's clothes. Good for me.)
Edited by: movieman1957 on Sep 7, 2010 5:03 PM
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Why did Boone come back? Scott gives him the chance to just go away but he can't. Maybe he won't admit to being beaten. He is no worse off if he goes. He is short two people who he didn't really feel any real relationship with. Where is the strength? Is it coming back to confront Scott or would it have been to just ride off?
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In "Lifeboat" he appears in a newspaper ad read by one of the people on the boat.
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"Yes. We are "The Four Flyers." We had several Top Ten hits in the U.S. last year. Shall we sing for you?"
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I can see why Sir Francis was waiting on you. Wonderful essay. This has my favorite line to end a movie. It's not just what he says but more how he says it. It is almost as if a father to a crying child. The underlying truth to is that "We got through and we didn't get hurt." Nothing else really matters at that point.
If I can be so brazen as to bring a couple of comment I made a few pages back that might show we are thinking along the same lines of some of this.
Re: Frank:
*I think Boone is designed to conflict us. At once he is a man who would do something like he did to the child and on the other he is one who wants a ranch and to do something other than what he is doing. He is annoyed at the company he must keep so he revels in talking to Scott. It is a depth his partners can't give him.*
*There is also a scene where Boone takes O'Sullivan her breakfast and lays it next to her while she sleeps and then gently pulls the blanket up on her. It seems as if he is a little regretful that she got caught up in this because she was not the original target.*
Re: Mrs. Mims:
*About O'Sullivan, I've always thought the part to be too whiny but reflecting on it I can understand why she would be. This is a terrifying experience for her. No matter what she thought of him she saw her husband gunned down. She doesn't know enough about Scott, initially, to trust him and after the introduction to the bad guys she, like us, feel they can and will do anything.*
*I really like her willingness to be plain almost to the point of being unattractive here. And she is the right age. However, when Scott grabs her by the hair and plants one on her maybe that changed her own confidence a little. She clings to Scott at the end though.*
You mentioned Boone in his "bloody meat"(?) colored shirt. I had not noticed it but it did hit me that Scott's clothes so perfectly matched the scenery I wondered how deliberate it was. (He even matched his horse early on. )
Stepping aside....
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>Ha.. OK.. I won't tell you... but I WILL tell you there is one.. where I just about fell out of my CHAIR it was so shocking.. you think the movie is over.. and everyone is feeling pretty good..and it is the end..and then WHAMMO!!!! (I bet at least Chris knows which one I am talking about) OH I hate the end of that movie SO much!!
I do. It surprised me too.
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MIss G and I talked a little about a few weeks ago.
GO FOR IT.
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"Trail of The Lonesome Pine" should be here tomorrow so maybe I can join you for a chat later this week.
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Happy Birthday young lady. May it be a lovely day filled with family and friends. Since I'm way up here you can have my piece of cake.
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To see my Netflix queue you may not think I like old movies so much but more so than new films. It is made up mostly of old TV shows, British murder mysteries and some documentaries.
These are things I've not seen or find a new series that I like and want to see more of them. This is really true of the British films/series.
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>Maybe I just need to see more of him to get a better grasp on his character.
There isn't much more to grab. Mostly he got stuck playing the love interest. He was easily replaced by Allan Jones when they went to MGM. It really wasn't Zeppo's fault as much it there wasn't much left for him to do. Being the baby in the family all the good stuff was taken. Even Gummo (brother number 4) saw the writing on the wall. He went to war and became comfortable in the dress business.
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Yes, in some things. I used to watch Abbott and Costello every chance I got. I don't really go out of my way to watch them. I am certainly more conscious of noir films now. I am not even sure I knew what I was watching. It was just for entertainment. Now, mostly thanks to you and the group, I watch them more critically.
I am less tolerant of bad films. (That may be more an age thing.) I won't watch something too often for the sake of watching something. Some actors I am not as much of a fan as I was once. I am still fond of my westerns and romantic comedies. I have never acquired a taste for horror.
I do rely a lot on the group here for new things to watch. When I was younger I didn't know anyone who liked old movies so I would watch something just because it was on. It was about learning, It was forming likes and who I could enjoy and what to avoid.
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>That's great. Do you still have them?
Yes. Most of those lists are still on old index cards. I started around 1974. I still have a handwritten list of everything I saw. Three columns per side of regular paper. I put an asterisk on them when I saw them again. Sometimes it was tough making sure I didn't already have it on the list. I have since transferred it to a computer as it makes the searching so much easier.
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He didn't even take his money seriously. If I remember right didn't he just hand over $5000 without flinching?
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> I've never seen CIRCUS WORLD, either, at the other end of his career, nor do I want to.
A wise choice my dear.
I started making lists a long time ago. Long before there were reference books like Leonard Maltin's. I kept lists of what I saw and lists of my favorite actors and directors.
If you've seen that many of those old "Lone Star" productions you pretty well have the gist of them.
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I guess it was less Hoagy and more that dumb song he kept singing. Though if I remember right he played a pivotal role for something he saw.
Bond wasn't very nice.
I did not know those were Andy's children.
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I have all of you beat. 116 Wayne movies. It's taken a long time and a lot of those not-so-great B movies to get there.
I watched them so you don't have to.
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April:
Re: Picnic At Hanging Rock.
I got it and and embarrassed for having missed it. Beethoven's 5th Piano Concerto. 2nd movement.
It's too bad they left out the lovely prelude to the piano coming in.
We now rejoin our regularly scheduled discussion.
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I don't disagree, I saw it recently and while I was impressed with the way the film looked parts of it I didn't quite know where it came from. The relationship between Andrews and Donleavy was unusual. Hoagy Carmichael became annoying. However, it was nice to see Andy Devine in a more conventional role.
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Yes. Away from the screen. I have many books about them and there are several stories about it. IT was not unheard of for Zeppo to sub for Groucho when he was indisposed.
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>Yes but I feel bad when I do it to Chris.
I like being "bothered" like this by any of you. I am sorry I wasn't any help. The music from the "Picnic At Hanging Rock" is in a different key than Sir Francis' recording. It sounds more Mozart to me but I'm not sure.
So glad Sir Francis could help. I'm glad at least one of us is an expert. Going back to study.
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Away from the screen Zeppo was every bit as funny as the others they just didn't have a character for him.
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Thanks. I don't think I have a copy of it. (Where's Lafitte when you need him.) I'll have to do a little digging.
RAMBLES Part II
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It is beautiful the way everyone moved from "Wake Of The Red Witch" to "Wuthering Heights" so seamlessly.