movieman1957

You're sad? In all the challenges your streak was DiMaggio-esque but even his came to an end. I hope now you will find relaxation knowing you are SO ahead for the next schedule challenge. Sad news indeed.

I've heard the he was but never really read anything definitive.

I've been looking for a picture but can't find one. He keeps his hands and elbows high. His elbows are up near his shoulders and parallel to the ground. His hands usually are about chest high.

I'll have to pay more attention to the way he throws a punch. I never gave much thought to the different styles people use. One thing I do know about him is he rides a horse differently than most anyone else I have seen.

Talking about the clothes - in those old movies none of the clothes seemed to fit all that well. Loose and baggy are the first things that come to mind. You get to the 50s (as you say) and those clothes almost look tailored. Glenn Ford in the movies and Steve McQueen and Clint Walker in TV used to wear some of the tightest and best fitting shirts around. They always looked pressed too.

I see you and Mrs. R were up late conversing. What do you two (or anyone else) think about the famous song and "dance" Rita does? My own thought is that she looks somewhat uncomfortable doing it. I don't think it is all that great but whenever they mention this movie that is what they show. Of course, you can't have anyone working in a nightclub and not have them sing. It has been awhile since I've seen it but I remember Ford and Hayworth's "banter" being particularly striking and vitriolic. Which also makes some of it fun. (Your example noted.) I like Ford as well and for the same reason. He does a slow boil as well as anyone not named Edgar Kennedy. "The Blackboard Jungle" and "The Violent Men" and "The Fastest Gun Alive" show that talent quite well.

I am not far enough into it to have made the connection. I'll pay close attention now when I can get to the rest of it.

I started it and ran into an internet problem. I got through the first fifteen minutes. Some of the title cards are funny describing the man's uncomfortable fit with the clergy. Even certain faiths have the ability to spin things when they want to get something done. I saw Hart smile. I thought that never happened. Anyway, I'm hoping for a new piece of equipment this weekend that will help my internet. In the mean time I guess I'll be spending more time at the office.

Thank you fedya! You come up with the wildest themes - with video clips. Cool. It is the last day folks. Join in.

>Wow, what a great turn the discussion has taken. And we need another guy's input, MovieMan! Oh, the pressure!

> I decided that maybe love was just feeling comfortable with someone, not fireworks. Fireworks are great and important but you are right in that they alone can't make the whole relationship. Being comfortable goes a long way. I've been comfortable for 26 years. My copy of this film is coming next week so maybe I'll be able to contribute.

Seven great schedules and only today and tomorrow left. I hear there are some still being put together. A reminder that on Friday sometime I will put a thread together for voting. All the schedules will be copied there but be sure and check back at what yet may come and share your thoughts.

Great selections. Atlanta has long had a reputation for great choral recordings.

Since Hellman wrote the screenplay I am surprised that the appearance connection was made so little of. At least it seemed that way to me. Maybe I am too thick. (Well, I am it is just a matter of degree.)

The TCM database provides two wildly different times so I looked at imdb and they show 110m on the 2004 Criterion DVD and among all the other countries running times they list the USA time at 99m. Since none of the other times listed share the 120m time on TCM I am inclined to dismiss it for the purpose of the contest. For a time slot two hours is fine and you can pick either time depending on if you want to program a short film. I know that doesn't really answer your question but I hope it helps for your schedule.

>I think that Teresa Wright deliberately appears older than she should for the character because Regina, a control freak if ever I saw one, would have picked out the girl's clothing and chosen her hair style long after girls of her age began to dress in a more grown up style. This was probably because Regina would have wanted the girl to appear pre-pubescent, allowing her to exert her will on the child, still play a bit of a coquette when needed, and ensuring that her own perception of her erotic power was undiminished by time and a potential rival for attention. Well, that is what threw me. I couldn't reconcile her physical maturity with her teenage look. Granted even the way she talks about or to her father still seem rather youngish but when she finally tells Bette off that all goes away. Maybe that is the point. At the end Alexandra shows she is grown up. She has come out from under her mother. Her actions now contrast with her "age." Thanks for filling in the finer points to my thought.

How old does anyone think Wright was playing? I'm guessing somewhere around 16. If that is the case that makes her relationship with Dave a little odd. I thought him to be mid 20s.

I'd like to see it but it might be a couple of days. Maybe I can squeeze it in tonight after my bride goes to bed. (4:00am comes early for her.)

You are right about the relationship between Regina and Ben. At the end Ben has just been cut off at the knees and he takes it in good humor. He knows he has been bested and he just as well make of it what he can. I find him incredibly patronizing through most of the film. That sets him quite apart from the other siblings. Oscar is just pathetic. I think he wants to believe he is as smart as the others but he is clearly not in their league. What an interesting living arrangement too. The three of them living within shouting distance of each other is a bit odd until I remember that a long time ago I had three aunts and two uncles that lived within a mile of each other. (We lived 450 miles away.)

Thank you. I think "Birdy" is such a sad figure. She wants to be loved. She wants to be important. She wants to be relevant. She is none of them and only succeeds in annoying everyone. It is a beautiful scene where she admits everything she is out with the group who do like her but I found it odd that after she is taken away by "Alexandra" we never see her again.

If ever a more insidious, arrogant, pathetic set of siblings came into the world of fiction it would be hard to beat the Hubbard family in William Wyler's *"The Little Foxes."* Their greed knows no bounds. Their hearts know no love. In reality they have nothing but each other and it's a sad end to it all. It is also a movie of reactions. I found myself watching the rest of the cast when someone was speaking. How did they react? Herbert Marshall (Horace) as Regina's (Davis) husband has plenty to react to. Whether it is coming to a home where there is no love or listening to the plans of his family's greed he is wonderful in showing his annoyance and disgust. His only light is his daughter Alexandra (Teresa Wright.) Everyone on the fringe of this triad from hell is poisoned by their greed. Whether it is brother Oscar's wife Birdy, a sweet and lonely soul who softens her life with a drink or their own son Leo (Dan Duryea) who is so the product of the family that his mother can't stand him no one wins. Until the last. The one who does win is, oddly enough, Alexandra. When all the back stabbing and wheeling and dealing is over she is the only one who can stand up to Regina. That is only because she wants nothing that her mother can give her. On the night her father dies she leaves her mother and is free of it all. She is the only one free of it all. Very good performances all around. The only drawback for me is Teresa Wright. She is playing a part that seems to be quite a bit younger then she is. She parades around the whole movie with a big bow in her hair and a pair of Buster Brown shoes. Duryea is good as the young not very bright son. Near the end when he gets slapped by Alexandra's young man it is given more like a man to an insolent child. It is not one good one but a quick series of slaps that ring more of disgust than anger. They all had it coming.

Another schedule. Yeah! Thanks for taking the time and for the hard work.

That's great. We look forward to your schedule as well. A reminder to all who are still working on theirs is that you have until this Thursday night. Keep 'em coming.

>The shot that most caught me was during Andreas' hair shaving scene - the way his mother, at the window, covered the sight of it with her hand, and it blocked our view of her horrified face, then the way her hand stayed on the window until the dissolve - oh golly I can still see that hand..... The thing that struck me about the scene was two fold. One was his hair falling sort of focusing on the curls seemed to me to point out his youth. The hand on the glass might be a refection on the blessing she gave the older boys. The shadow of her hand over their faces is now replaced by the flat distortion of her hand on the glass. As far as the composer credit goes this, as I recall, is not unique to this film. At least they attempted to make it look like it fit.

Thank you. You are most kind.