movieman1957

I don't disagree about today's TV kids. It is part of the reason why I don't watch much TV comedy. They always make the kids out smarter than their parents but mostly the father. They are often disrespectful and rude. Cissy and Uncle Bill were fine.

Speaking of Mrs. Beazley. I watched "Family Affair" a bit when I was a kid and I always wanted to punch Johnnie Whitaker in the mouth. I never saw a more whiny kid in my life.

Lord knows there is enough to fill it. THe only movie today that I had not seen or have waiting to be seen is "Welcome Danger." It is nice to get to see some of the lesser known pictures.

*Sir Francis* While looking for some old ramblings on "Forty Guns" I came across a comment you and I had on "Jubal" with Glenn Ford. I saw on a spot for the TCM Film Festival that they are going to play it then. (It was actually a background graphic.) I hope someone gets to see it and then maybe we can have a discussion. We talked about it last July but never got 'round to it.

Saw most of a Robert Mitchum picture called "Man With A Gun," It is a low end ( and prior to) "Warlock." Mitchum plays what is called a "town tamer." He wanders into a town where they are having trouble with a big shot land owner. naturally, the town members are too undermanned to do anything about it. They don't have much will either. Mitchum also has a past with one of the girls in town, Jan Sterling. As things go along he winds up making the town mad and they start to turn against him. OK though nothing exciting. I would recommend "Warlock." I had a hard time trying to determine if the same set was used for both. If not it is awfully close. It aired on Encore's Westerns channel.

*_SweetT_* I am going to the concert. I am looking forward to it. We did a short series this year. The last one I went to featured Moussorgsky's "Pictures At An Exhibition." That was fun. *_Patful_* No need to apologize for your listening status. Things have changed so much over the years that this is of interest too. Keep 'em coming.

Thanks for entertaining and informing us over 8000 times. We are the lucky ones.

They're nice too.

That is not fair having such a great picture this early in the morning. Although, it did get my heart started.

I'll start. Recently I have run through *Rachmaninoff"s Second Symphony* with Andre Previn conducting. This is leading to a Baltimore Symphony Concert next month where it will be the featured work. The Beatles *Magical Mystery Tour* has been going on. I can't imagine having this originally available as just an EP in England since the US release was expanded and better, I think. Michael Gettel's *Winter.* He is a fine and long time New Age artist that writes lovely music.

Yes, I am stealing an idea from a friend at another playground to find out what the group here might have recently been enjoying on their stereo of choice. With the other music threads running very nice daily video treats I though one where we could talk about music we have been listening to might be a little change of pace. Be it classical, pop, rock, country, new age, jazz, film soundtracks or whatever the current forms are (badly showing my age here) tell us what and why. Critique your favorite, or even least favorite album. Suggest something for someone else. Share a concert experience. Comment on your favorite songwriters or composers. Compare different versions of the same song. Maybe you play an instrument or write songs. Tell us about it. Anything on music is up for discussion. So then, what have you been listening to?

*I had no idea Jay C. Flippen had had a leg amputated.... oh my gosh, more power to him. I'm glad* *Jimmy helped him out, if that is what happened.* Something happened after 1964. I saw Flippen in a Gunsmoke episode this morning. He was walking, though with some hesitation at times. He wasn't really overweight but he had a very full face. He spoke normally. No real info on imdb.

*Clore* I hadn't thought of the Fonda/Boone comparison but is a good one. *MissG* Thanks for answering my over thought statement. At my age I guess I am just forgetful.

Sir Francis: Tonight I am with you. My recorder will be employed to take a great comedy. Any film with cows and Omar Sharif is worth a look. I have seen it once and look forward to it again.

A couple of quick thoughts on this. Does Tom have to do what he did? No. Does he do it for Hallie? (I don't remember if they are far enough into the film to have "that" relationship.) If so is it because Tom won't have her just because Ranse isn't around? Or, is this the chance for Tom to get rid of Valance without the stigma that will now follow Ranse? Tom is a private man and it would not suit him well. It is also the reason he can now send Ranse off to the the statehood convention and him not go. Tom's action could be the supreme gift or it could be the ultimate self serving action. I am not contending that either possibility is right as I am thinking out loud. Edited by: movieman1957 on Apr 15, 2010 6:14 PM

>How do you deal with people who pretend to follow your rules buit stir up trouble anyway? When is it time to realize that they are just no good and have to go? When it becomes personal. Arthur's death becomes personal for Johnny. That is the extreme but I think as long as no one is really getting hurt in their mind it is still safe enough not to press it.

The church scene is a good one. It really gives each group a chance to size up the other. As you say, how far will the townspeople go to keep the peace? The bad guys have, even with the comparatively calm behavior, have come into the most sacred place/gathering in town for the simple purpose of disrupting it. I don't think the intent is anymore than to be an annoyance and disrespectful in the extreme. Even if Larkin knew about it, like everything else, he wouldn't be part of it but wouldn't stop it either.

You've been thinking about this, huh?

I initially thought three days was good to start the next one but then I've been wrong before so I thought it better to move my little post somewhere else. As far as "That Touch of Mink" goes it has been so long since I have seen it there is little for me to add so please ramble on. I do have a good friend that says it is one of her favorite Grant films.

I put in the "Hot Topics" forum under "Seen Any Good Movies Lately." I didn't see it as a film to "Ramble" on but....

The funny thing about this thread is that all roads lead to John Ford. Everything comes back to "The Searchers." "My Darling Clementine" and "Liberty Valance." It helps that two of its stars appear in two of those mentioned movies but I still think it true about most westerns we discuss. And Ben is not in any of the three. Too bad.

Deleted. (Better suited to another forum.) Edited by: movieman1957 on Apr 15, 2010 10:52 AM

*MissG said -* *Dean Jagger (boy was his character the king of all defeatists! He had more 'scuses than...)* He did but he wasn't wrong about the town. As I recall his speech he had the town pegged. Though he was right and knew what would happen and had to be done he still couldn't muster the will to do it. This speaks for the town. (For what was shown they seemed mostly older people.) *Sir Francis said -* *But I suppose we needed to fear and hate the gang and that had to come from the punks, not Larkin.* That is the danger when the leader of a gang is in a different world than the gang. Part of me wonders why he would be with a bunch of creeps like those guys. Larkin is clearly a superior intellect and even has a different set of values. He just doesn't have the will to control the guys. He is one of those characters that would be easy to like because he doesn't participate in the thuggish behavior. He keeps himself separate but he keeps himself boss by being separate but letting them have their way. It helps, I guess, if the gang never really grows up. imdb only shows two "Gunsmoke" episodes for Lockwood. Best showed up everywhere in the late 50s and 60s.

The beauty of these discussions is that there is always more to a film than one might realize. This is often more so on the first viewing. It is great learning experience and I am always happy when I accidentally bring out something for someone else.

I wanted Shea to say "Charlie Brown." Great comments on the film. One thing you touched on that I liked is Dulcie's reaction to Johnny's comments about his wife. She is a hard woman. She does things out of obligation. She certainly tries to dissuade her daughter from getting involved with any man much less the men that came to town. But that look you posted when she sits down next to Johnny's wife. She is sad and, I think, a little bit guilty. She has been hurt so all men must be like that. There is a deeper story there. Arthur is the heart, as you say. He wants to make something of himself which is ironic because the town full of normal people seem to be incapable of it. Arthur is not kidding himself though. He knows his limitations but that doesn't stop him from doing the right thing when he sees it. Johnny respects him. Inger Stevens is a fish out of water here. She may be the toughest person in town. I am sure she is only there to take care of her father. There probably is some past there but I think she just hates being there. That is what makes her verbal sparring with Fonda so interesting. At the same time she is angered by him she is fascinated by him. Somebody to match wits with. Though she may find him compelling she is not so over run that she can;t do the right thing. One other thing is that my DVD looked gorgeous on my screen. I have an upconvert DVD player but it is a regular DVD. Beautiful scenery.