Sukhov
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20 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
In the 1961 film it is Martha and Karen. Martha is a lesbian and she had strong emotional and sexual feelings for Karen, that becomes obvious. So it was just a 'one-way-thing'. Martha also starts to treat the boyfriend harshly; this is all because he is her rival; he is going to steal her love, take her away and make her have babies! This caused Martha a lot of resentment.
Of course the children lied but my point was that if the two women were both heterosexual, would these lies have taken place?
Wasn't one of the girls (the trouble maker?) reading Lady Chatterley's Lover? Doesn't matter what book but it was a book about sexuality and that book was part of the plot to show that the girls were highly interested in the topic (perfectly normal of course).
If there was so sexual tension between the two gals (even if only known by one of them), I just don't see any story. Note that in the 1936 version all 3 are heterosexual and therefore there is sexual tension between the man and the two gals (which leads to the lies). If Martha had been a lesbian in that version, there would be no story. See the point now: That there has to be sexual tension, that is observed subconsciously by the children, for there to be a story and the lies.
The play was based on an actual, real life event too.
-The play was partly inspired by an actual case in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1810, "Miss Pirie and Miss Woods vs. Dame Cumming Gordon." Two school teachers, Jane Pirie and Marianne Woods, were falsely accused of having a lesbian affair by a pupil, Jane Gordon. Under the influence of Jane's grandmother, Dame Cumming Gordon, the school's students were removed by their parents and the school was shut down. Pirie and Woods filed a libel suit against Dame Cumming Gordon, and won the case, but given the destruction of their lives and standing in the community, it was considered a hollow victory.
God, imagine how embarrassing that must have been to live with a rumor like that floating around about you. Poor women.
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So I imagine there will be a Peter Fonda memorandum where TCM plays his movies but because of the SUTS it will be postponed for next month? usually they just get rid of the Silent sunday nd import and play it then.
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I second Alan Bates. He would have been a good choice.
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1. Hard to be a God, Aleksey German, Russia
2. The Great Beauty, Paolo Sorrentino, Italy
3. Ida, Pawel Pawlikowski, Poland
4. Fetih 1453, Faruk Aksoy, Turkey
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9 minutes ago, rayban said:
And we must not forget the Jane and Peter Fonda segment from "Spirits of the Dead" (1968) that was titled, "Metzengerstein" -
A really good film. Peter is the "virtuous" antipode to Jane's cruel baroness who torments everyone. I really like that one.
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12 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
I've never paid attention but does anybody know the latest film shown on 31 days of Oscar?
The Artist and le Havre were both definitely shown before. Love Among the Ruins from 2015 was also a "silent sunday" pick one time.
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I recall her saying she loves Le Samourai.
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7 hours ago, TomJH said:
That doesn't make much sense inasmuch as you don't see anyone talking to John Truett. The centrepiece of the entire sequence is upon Garland once she starts to sing The Trolley Car Song. Besides, I think I can tell the difference between someone calling out "Judy," as opposed to "Johnny." With respect, I would suggest that you take another listen.
Someone blew it when they called out Garland by her real name rather than her character's name, but they kept it in anyway.
Agree to disagree. It sounds like "Hiya Johnny" to me. Also from IMDB-
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037059/goofs/?tab=gf&ref_=tt_trv_gf
Incorrectly regarded as goofs
It is often incorrectly claimed that an off screen male voice calls out "Hiya, Judy" (referring to actress Judy Garland instead of her character, Esther). The voice actually says "Hiya, Johnny". This refers to Tom Drake' s character, John Truett, who has been trying to catch the trolley and apparently just made it. As soon as the line is delivered Esther looks expectantly screen right but we do not see John until the end of the trolley song sequence.-
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21 hours ago, TomJH said:
One of the better known bloopers, I suspect, was during the performance of The Trolley Car Song in Meet Me in St, Louis. At the 1:21 mark of this video you'll hear someone yell to Garland, "Hiya, Judy." The problem? Garland's character's name in the film was Esther.
The guy her character likes on the train is named John Truett. The guy is talking to him saying "Hiya Johnny."
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This is a plot hole that exists in both versions of Lost Horizon. The movies stress that the Shangrila Tibetans are peace loving people who abhor violence and yet the hijacker kills the pilot and steals his plane in the beginning of each movie on the order of the High Llama.
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All the German ones are West Germany too.
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1 hour ago, AndreaDoria said:
I determined to watch the whole six hours, starting with The Immigrants at 2 PM and straight onto The New Land at 4:30, but about 7 o'clock when the brother returned and began telling his story in fevered back flashes and dreams, I had to give up.
I understand why that would be the best part for a lot of people, but to me the tone and pacing was so different from the straight forward slow-paced story I had been following that I felt like a completely different movie had popped up. I was also beyond sad for the poor young men. Robert with his perpetual pain and illness from the damaged ear, and his lonely friend who had always had such a sad life. Watching them struggle in the desert was just too much. So I turned it off then and I'm glad I missed the fetus murdering scene. Maybe next time I'll be able to pick it up and watch the ending, without already watching five hours. The two movies were certainly an awesome, worthwhile achievement.
I watched the two films on separate nights. The tone of the second one is what I prefer because the first one seemed a bit slow. Here is Liv on the Emigrants btw. She gives her thoughts on the movies and Troell.
I don't think the Indian attack scene is up on YouTube which is odd because I thought it was the most memorable part of New Land and would be the most discussed scene.
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On 8/7/2019 at 6:23 PM, EricJ said:
Technically, that's because once a new studio acquires an old one, if it wants to cement its own stamp on one of the iconic franchises, it has to make one of its OWN, from scratch, under original authorship. (As was the case when Disney had to make a new Muppets movie, and Michael Eisner was compelled to make a new Fantasia and Mary Poppins after buying Old Disney.)
And if Disney plans to cash in on Home Alone, Night at the Museum, Cheaper By the Dozen and the neo-Apes, that means having to make "our" version that doesn't belong to anyone else. Although, admittedly, Home Alone can't be stretched out into a Disney+ series, so that one just gets a one-off remake.
Still, as long as there's no word yet about Alvin, Ice Age, Predator or Die Hard, we're still safe. 😅
A cash grab, reboot of Home Alone reminds me of this gag.
What was considered a joke decades ago is now reality. 
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43 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:
As one of the people most likely to post about newer films around here, I obviously have no problem with it being done in General Discussions. That being said, I understand why this topic may have been prompted. One of us usually starts a thread for each year as we come to it (Mr.6666 started the "Films of 2019" thread), and I try to keep most of my new movie related posting in those threads. I'll also mention something in the "I Just Watched" thread if I just watched a new (or any other) film. And I may start a thread for a specific new or upcoming movie if I think it will be of particular interest to classic movie fans, such as the Nightmare Alley remake, or others who started threads about Once Upon a Tim in Hollywood or Stan & Ollie or Hail, Caesar! when that came out. However, a day or two ago, there were maybe a half-dozen threads on the front page about new films or trends in the business, including several of JakeHolman's tweet threads. I can see why that may have seemed a bit much. He already has a "Hollywood & Entertainment" thread in the Off-Topics for his tweets, so I'm not sure what that was all about in the General Discussions.
But I think it was just an anomaly that so many were on the first page at once, and more than likely, things will go back to being 95% classic movie around here.
If that is what he is upset about then that is different. Those posts are essentially just spam anyways. No real discussion or anything. If the Korean bots shilling foot cream or whatever qualify as spam then the others should too.
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2 minutes ago, TopBilled said:
Again you might be making things personal. We're not discussing what I think is classic or what you or anyone else thinks is classic. We're discussing what TCM defines as classic.
I honestly don't think TCM will be airing anything from 2019 or 2020 until at least 2025. So these new films being released are not yet classic, by TCM's terms.
As for studio era movies, I think we can all agree that not everything produced in the 30s, 40s or 50s is classic...many of those films have not stood the test of time. That's another discussion.
TCM has aired movies from the 2010s before. Le Havre, Love Among the Ruins, Human Voice. A few others too that I can't recall right now. They even aired a documentary about Bergman from 2012 yesterday.
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9 minutes ago, TopBilled said:
Some of the newer movies being released are not what TCM pushes as Classic.
So I think some of the discussions on this forum are going from Turner Classic Movies to just plain Turner Movies.
"Classic" is an arbitrary distinction. What is "classic" to you may not be to someone else and vice versa. It is not Turner Studio Era Movies.
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53 minutes ago, TheCid said:
1969 is 50 years ago. While I would not like to see this site dominated by discussions about movies made in the past 10 years, anything else would see to be appropriate.
Before I joined, I read a few threads to get an idea of how discussion on this board worked and I remember reading a thread where someone didn't want TCM to play anything made after 1960!
Limiting discussion based on year really seems a bit arbitrary. I think most who have interest in joining this forum will naturally gravitate towards discussions of certain stars, studios, movie years, etc.
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Okay a bit off topic but ya know, years ago one of my teachers looked exactly like Liv Ullmann, I kid you not. Imagine the picture on the right but with brunette hair. She was also one of the kindest people I've ever met.
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Of that list, Gosta Berling would interest me the most depending on the extras in it. I like Garbo.
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20 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:
It's still hard for me to think of 40 and 50 years old as being TOO YOUNG to have ever seen CASABLANCA. But at 68, I've reached the point where I pronounce "Tempus Fugit" as "TEMPUS FUGGIT!"
Sepiatone
Reading the thread title, I assumed they were going to be my age.
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4 hours ago, Det Jim McLeod said:
The sequel, "The New Land" followed this on TCM yesterday but I did not feel I could spend another 3 1/2 hours on this but someday I hope to see it when in the mood.
New Land is much better imo. It covers the brothers of Von Sydow as they seek to become gold prospectors and includes a very graphic fetus murdering scene involving natives.
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1 minute ago, LawrenceA said:
Mamma Roma has been on a few times, and will be on again after Teorema.
So no Salo?
What was considered a joke decades ago is now reality. 
How Many Volumes Are In The Disney Sing Along Songs Collection
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