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  1. That is a good word for Ruby, discipline. She must've had great self discipline to help carry her through the situations in her life the way she got through them. I heard that Ruby was a loving mother, but I'm sure she used good discipline on her kids too. A good mother doesn't allow her kids to do whatever they want anyway. A good mother shows love for her kids and also knows how to discipline them and without being abusive, which is how I'm sure Ruby was. Al Jolson though would've probably crossed the line over to abusive towards their kids if he'd had kids with her. It's a good thing that she ended up raising her family with John Lowe. When Ruby had a stroke in the 1970s after 4 years in "No, no Nanette", I do wonder if maybe some of the reason was due to too much strain on her, since she was in her 60s by then and had been spending 4 straight years touring the world and appearing in the show, all the constant work, rehearsing, and traveling was possibly too much strain on a 60 something year old. But you still got to hand it to Ruby, she made a great recovery, appeared in a number of different award ceremonies, guest shots on shows, and several more movie and program appearances throughout most of the remainder of her life, and ended up dying of cancer and never got a second stroke.
  2. I know that Ruby didn't tell her kids until they got older about her previous marriage to Jolson, but I don't think that Ruby could've ever done what Young did, not tell her own kids who their father was. And all of her kids' were decedent of John Homer Lowe. Ruby wasn't able to have kids with Jolson, and ended up adopting (the Jolson appointed) Al Jolson Jr. I once read that Ruby and Dick Powell had started gaining romantic feelings for each other on the sets of the 1930s films they starred together in, but Jolson's tendencies to get insanely jealous was basically the reason why nothing romantic actually developed between them, thus Powell ended up marrying Blondell. I don't know how Ruby tolerated being with Jolson for a whole decade with what I've read about how he treated women. I'm not sure though if he was just verbally abusive towards Ruby or physically abusive too.
  3. Yes, it's very admirable how Ruby hung in there and stayed strong during the years she was with Jolson. Some wives would've created huge fusses and ordeals about it, cried and complained, running to people here and there, etc. like you said. I don't know if Al was physically abusive with Ruby during their marriage, but I'm very sure he was quite verbally abusive and controlling, which is how he treated all of his women. Kudos to Ruby for how she dealt with it. Very tough times in life is part of life, and those horrible times can last weeks, months, or even years. But, it's how people handle it what determines how they look to others. When you see someone going through hard times, would you admire and respect them more if they stayed strong and confident, or if they were crying to people all over the place, freaking out, and losing their mind and their stability over it?
  4. I agree that it's likely that Ruby didn't get into films due to her being the wife of Jolson, and that it was her innocence and cute personality. I also think she got in because she was so sweet, pretty, charming, girl next door like, and she was a talented buck n wing dancer. People compare her to graceful dancers and say that she wasn't as good as them, but it's not that. Buck n wing is a different form of dancing which doesn't have the same style of grace.
  5. Ruby Keeler and Dick Powell starred in 7 films together, while Ruby and Jolson starred together in only one. Many celebrities I guess didn't want to star in films with their significant other when the marriage is rocky, which I do understand.
  6. Oh, I know you weren't knocking Ruby and I know that no one said that anyone is perfect. I'm just stating my opinions, I'm not correcting anybody or calling anyone out. I know that the term perfect is a totally straw man pov. Like I said before, perfect is a very contradictory term.
  7. Nobody has ever been a loyal or devote Catholic to the point to where they have never ever lied or sinned, every human being in the history of humanity has lied and sinned at some point in their lives. Even "honest Abe" Lincoln, I find it hard to believe that he never told a lie at some point in his life. The difference with devoted Christians is that they pray to God and ask for forgiveness after they've sinned, and that they always try to better themselves. But, nobody has ever found it possible to be perfect. The word perfect in itself is contradictory because what's perfect for one person can always be imperfect to another. Ruby Keeler though was a very decent person with a good heart, but she was not a perfect person who never sinned either. From everything that I've ever read about her, she was a very honest person, even though she had lied in her lifetime too, she lied about her age when she first went on to Broadway. And she divorced Jolson, but Jolson was an extremely difficult person and he treated the women he was with horribly. It's great that she eventually married Jon Homer Lowe and had a happy marriage with him
  8. If I'm still alive by then, lol. I've brought a lot of these posts on 1930s films back to life. There are only so many of us users on this forum, and there are sadly not a high percentage of people today in 2018 who are into 1930s films and music. 1930s things are too old fashioned to most younger and even middle aged people today who just cannot relate enough to the ways of the era to find anything from that era funny, interesting, or enjoyable. Every now and again though are people like us who found an appreciation for the era and a keen interest in it. It doesn't matter to us if we were born after that time period, we've still found something about the era which has really attracted our interests, where the majority of people are not able to develop an interest in a time period which ended before they existed. That's why the higher percentage of today's population under 70 to 80 are not interested in 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s films and music.
  9. Beau Hunks was hilarious. So was Tip for tat, Oliver the eighth, We faw down, Another fine mess, Our wife, Below zero, Their first mistake, County hospital, Busy buddies, Hog play, Chickens come home, and many others. All of their silents and most of their talking shorts. Some of their feature lengths were great too such as Flying dueces, Blockheads, Boheimian girl, and Swiss miss were great too. It was in the 1940s when they lost their touch. When the comedy stopped revolving around the two of them and their antics with each other and their rivals, and when they became side characters to someone else's plot, which was everything after Saps at sea in 1940. The two of them stopped fighting so much after that film. That hurt things, a lot of their comedy revolved around their fighting, Laurel's blundering mistakes leading to Ollie's tripping, falling, getting hit on head with something, etc. All that stopped being in the way it was before the 1940s.
  10. You just named every great Golden age comedy team. They're all great, they just knew how to do comedy better back in the old days. They just can't do comedy anymore like the above mentioned stars, most modern comedy is either stupid and annoying or gross toilet humor. Where are the modern Marx brothers, Laurel and Hardys, and Abbott and Costellos? And the Buster Keatens, Three stooges, and W.C. Fields? There were a couple of things in the late 1930s that had some annoying stupidness. One example was in "Gold diggers Paris", those band players, the annoying faces they made while playing their instruments, their stupid behavior, then Hugh Hubert's dumb acting in that film, he started becoming irritating in the late 1930s, he was better earlier on such as his character Ezra Ounce in "Dames", which was a much better film than "Gold diggers Paris". Fortunately, the stupid comedy back then was the minority and the great ones were the majority, much more so than today.
  11. Sorry, two months late replying (exactly two months, lol). Got two corrections to make to my comment that you replied to. First one, a typo: I meant Cagney, not Carney. Second one: I meant Claire Dodd, not Ruth Donnelly. I mistakenly thought Ruth Donnelly was the name of the actress who played Ms Vivian Rich (Ms Vivian Bi.., I mean Rich, Lol). I realize now that Ruth Donnelly was the nice older lady who Ruby Keeler thought Dick Powell was sucking up to.
  12. Yes, that too, he gives that look to the camera when he's about to make a move to get back on Stan for his stupidity, or when he and Stan are about to get back on a rival which he and Stan are battling it out with. Like with Ollie's trademark look at the camera, Stan also has that amusing look of confusion at the camera, and his scratching his head. I found it especially amusing in "Oliver the eighth" when Stan scratches his head during the invisible dinner scene, and then pretends to throw salt over his shoulder (which he has done in several other shorts when he threw real salt over his shoulder when he and Ollie were actually eating).
  13. Yes. I have noticed how Hardy will look straight at the camera (at us) sometimes, usually when he's about to make his next move on someone.
  14. Because more modern stuff prefers gun violence, shoot em up, and explosions. The slapping around and conks on the head is considered too lame by today's standards. That being said though, I seriously doubt that people back then thumped and knocked each other in the head as much as the three stooges did, because in real life, it would've given people brain damage the amount of times they were getting knocked upside the head. But of course, movies and tv have always exaggerated those things. Just like in more modern movies, how many people in real life are always shooting each other up like in the Lethal weapon movies?
  15. Three stooges and Laurel and Hardy are my two favorite 1930s comedy shorts. My very favorite 1930s comedy team is the Marx brothers, but they were all in feature length films. Since we're talking about shorts, then it's the stooges and Laurel and Hardy, plus their humor is not far behind the Marx brothers in funniness anyway. I love the stooges episode where they're carrying the ice up the stairs,and yes it does bear resemblance to Laurel and Hardy in the Music box. I also love the stooges episode where they're working on the car and Moe gets his head caught in the pipe, and they then crawl into a bomb which gets dropped in Germany. I also love the episode where they're making breakfast in the diner and serve the guy those rubber pancakes. I also love the episodes with Ted Healy such as the episode where they're waiters in the nightclub and in their appearance in the film Meet the baron with Jimmy Durante and Jack Pearl. I also love the school teacher episode where they teach the class of those beautiful young women the vowel song (a-e-i, a-e-o, a-e-ippy-i, a-e-u), and the beauties' wonderful chorus voices singing along.
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