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  1. >This is the perfect thread for that kind of discussion. If you haven't looked you might enjoy reading through the early pages of this thread. We almost did nothing but talk music...Lots of regulars took part.

     

    So true, that was before youtube postings. I love youtube (who doesn't?) but it discourages conversation. There was something nice in being forced to talk about music, a thing that is often difficult to put into words in the first place. I may know classical and some opera but I am clueless on what others know so well, Pop, Rock, etc., and I, for one, would appreciate knowing what pleases one about a youtube link that is posted here. I would probably be more receptive to these unfamiliar links if I knew what excited you about them. (Just a thought.) But the links are there and I can see for myself if I make the effort to learn something new. Youtube is great.

  2. >Actually, seeing the scene again something comes at me from left field. There is a shot of the sister and the father listening in the next room, both looking rather strained. Maybe the meaning isn't lost on them...Wasn't the singing beautiful, by the way. Papin was wonderful, to me.

     

    I just watched the whole sequence. I don't remember the movie well enough and therefore don't want to contradict you...but I wonder if they were reacting to the singing itself and the fact that it had to do with romantic love in general, something that is at least suspect given their strict religious beliefs...and having not so much to do with the actual situation in the opera? (i.e., the duplicity) Of course they may have had their suspicions of M Papin himself. I'm surprised that he would kiss her like that at the conclusion of the aria, and that she didn't flinch, given her upbringing (Is that why, in part at least, she wanted to quit the lessons?). Yes, the music is beautiful and the entire music sequence was just great. I like the way he left the piano and they continued a capella (with Papin filling in some of the orchestral parts himself.) They actually sang a good portion of the duet, practically all. And I agree, M. Papin was totally winning.

     

    Here is the duet in concert but in costume. Thomas Allen and Lucia Popp. There is about a minute of recitivo and we can easily see how he is hitting on her. She is attracted but not sure at first. When she finally sings "andiam" with him, she is lost.

     

     

     

     

     

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  3. >Amazing Lafitte to read this, for I know the story plot, and it is so lyrical, so poetic, and so redemptive, this aria now seems wrong...but it is still one of the most beautiful pieces of music in film.

     

    I haven't seen Babette's Feast in years and don't remember much...but I'm guessing that the meaning of the aria is of less importance than the sheer beauty of it. That duet is very well known and one of the most beloved in all of opera and probably very oft used in music lessons as well, so I'm guessing that the appropriateness in the sense you speak of may not be significant. When one suddenly hears this music the first thing to mind is not how wicked the Don is but how beautiful the music is. Regardless of motive, the sheer sweetness of these two singing together is what captivates. That's opera, the music is the thing. That's what M. Papin is conveying. When he chose this music, it was because it was famous and beautiful, the meaning of it totally secondary. So please don't let the meaning ruin anything for you. This music is totally appropriate with this movie. In opera, c'est la musique...la musique, c'est tout. That's what M. Papin would say.

  4. The music from Babette's Feast is a duet from Don Giovanni "La Ci Darem La Mano" (Give me your hand), very sweet and innocuous sounding but actually the Don is being duplicitous as he prepares to seduce sweet Zerlina, another conquest. They are singing in French though it is normally performed in the original Italian.

     

    Earlier as the M. Papin approaches the hut, he sings something under his breath, also from Don Govanni, an aria that the Don sings whereby he revels in and tells us all just what a scoundrel he is. In the actual opera it does not sound so soft, rather it is sung with a fury equal to the extent of his wickedness.

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    Love this one. Gee, she seems to be pretty high off the ground there. I wonder is she needs some assistance getting down. Laffite at your service, my dear! (She is so cute).

     

    Did anyone like her in Little Women ? I know, I know, she was a blonde in that one. But she was adorable. Okay, you can slap my hands now (but not too hard), no more blondes on the brunette thread.

     

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    This one looks a little like that famous Cross.

  6. fantastic voyage

     

    ?which was a weird dish but it came with lemon leaf sauce so he ordered it. He was soon joined by a young couple who were rather weird as well and he thought to engage them in some pleasant dinner conversation but it was the young couple who spoke first, in unison, bringing up the subject of?

  7. BANANAS

     

    ?in her mouth which made him sick because he hated bananas but was relieved when she started the stewed tomatoes, which was more to his liking. She was spouting the usual nonsense so Jimmy decided to shut her up but then realized he didn?t have to because?

  8. The Colts are favored by four (unless it's changed recently). A CBSSportsline poll has the Colts winning 63-47 percent, surprising to me. The Colts are virtually undefeated, they still haven't lost with full-time starters. Still, the Saints have more tools and only lost one game at full strength. I would take New Orleans and four anytime. I think they'll win straight up.

  9. THE SPIRAL ROAD

     

    ...of loss and disillusionment, vowing never to eat another apple and besides it was all his sister's fault, she stole the apples from Mrs Grundy's tree. Life was nothing but false hope and lingering disappointment, so why bother? He put off considering this weighty matter by attending a matinee at the Bijou that...

  10. *Chris*, wonderful selection. The orchestral introduction is so enchanting I didn't want the piano to come in :D I just wanted the orchestra to continue...

     

    Another really good intro to a slow movement is the *Violin Concerto*. An oboe plays a simple but beautiful melody with a soft orchestral accompaniment. A famous violinist---I forget who now---confessed that he once found the intro so arresting that he actually missed his entrance.

  11. THE WOMAN IN THE WINDOW

     

    ?who was not Mrs Grundy this time, but his own mother who was looking out at him through a nostalgic mist that gripped mind and body in a sort of paralysis of wondrous amazement. With a cautious joy he reached out to her and she approached him as if in a dream and?

  12. THE WOMAN NEXT DOOR

     

    ?was standing there, agape, and said no I don?t know you and Jimmy said, why, Mrs. Grundy, it?s me, Jimmy, don?t you remember the way I used to traipse your flower beds and call you an old goat when you wouldn?t give back the kick ball but the old woman scorned him and said you?re crazy you?ve never lived here...

  13. DAYS OF WINE AND ROSES

     

    ?began to occur, yep, Anita began to hit the sauce and began to be a no-show at gigs and Jimmy began to do one-man shows and attained the rep of the enchanted horn soloist all the while trying to get Anita to AA who said no all I want is a few drinks and he said you don?t have a few drinks, you get drunk and she begged him to have a drink with her and...

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