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JDC_NYC

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  1. The banner of the "new" site overwhelms the information below --- What is wrong with seeing an entire day's lineup as it was done in the past - Find this to be too confining and the layout is terrible. 

  2. That was not her in "Funny, isn't it?"??? Sounds an awful lot like her - where they sometimes don't make an effort to pick up a "tone". The one thing I truly hated about the film "West Side Story" was the awful dubbing for Natalie Wood.
  3. What I have noticed about the last grouping of musical films is that they let the leads sing their own parts - Rosalind Russell, Lucille Ball, Peter O'Toole, most of the actors in "1776", Omar Shariff, and on. NO one could tell Lucy not to sing once "Ricky" was no longer in charge, I assume, and thank goodness because as bad as her voice could be, her rendition of "If He Walked Into My Life Today" still brings raging tears to my eyes. And it was about time we got rid of the "looping" But I am watching "Funny Girl" yet again and I think it is OVER-directed. The exact eye angle from Fanny whe
  4. Thank you for the time and effort it must have taken to amassed such a course. I am very regretful that I never knew there was a Hitchcock course because I watched all of those films before and AGAIN and never got to participate. But I learned something about myself when I took this course. I like musicals. I am even MAD about some of them. But I also am very benign on many from the 20-30s and even '40s until we got to Sinatra and Kelly. And while I enjoy and respect so many others it is the dancing that drew me in and then the singing second. The plots were tertiary. I want to say for
  5. Even though this is based on what we might consider a more sophisticated plot - being based on "Pygmalion" - it is still a main theme in stories through all time - The more a man or woman pushes someone away, the more they are usually "protesting too much". Also, men love women who fetch their slippers!!! ?
  6. Always having to be different, I guess, I want to start with this thought. As opposed to what the lecture notes say: "Compared to the muted background and Higgins’ black and white tuxedo, Eliza’s red dress and dazzling, over-the-top jewelry stand out" ... I disagree. Her blood-red velvet coat seem to blend in with all the Victorian-like muted background pieces (her dress does sparkle) but it is HENRY HIGGIN'S black tuxedo and white shirt that stand out in contrast - and he is really just that "black and white" no grey areas for that character. HE is RIGHT and YOU are WRONG. Unless you are
  7. One thing that I don't think I would have thought of before, had I not seen "My Fair Lady" again last night and then am doing this exercise a day late(r) is that Preston ALSO "talks-sings" his musical numbers. I always knew that about Rex Harrison but kind of forgot about it with regard to Robert Preston. I love his performance in "The Music Man" but have not been a great fan of "Victor/Victoria" - I think it might be the only performance by Julie Andrews that doesn't please me. I am not against the material - "The Bird Cage" is one of my absolute favorite movies, but this "V/V" just annoys
  8. More like GAGAG me with a spoon! I think she can sing but the thought of seeing these two in that same dang movie -- OY!
  9. "fetching", eh??? ha ha - cute comment. I didn't like him very much until watching some of these films again recently. And I too feel it is good that people are speaking their minds. Not sure how much I've learned, but that could be a fault of my own. Oh - almost forgot to add that I too am a HUGE fan of Charlie!
  10. Don't we consider the fact that "A Star Is Born" was also done THREE times - There was a discussion about "Showboat" being done first as a silent film, then with Irene Dunne and Paul Robeson, etc.in black and white and then the sanitized glitzy version in 1951 with all the dazzle and Howard Keel, Kathrine Grayson, etc. and William Warfield. But "A Star Is Born" was done three times as well - and in my opinion should have been left at the first. Judy Garland version was even worse than Barbara Streisand's. Might not be that important a topic but it bothered me that the lecture vid
  11. I don't care for over-analyzing some fun scenes so I will make it brief. This bit with the Professor and the less than serious students can be seen in all types of movies - some done better than others. This is a "goody". Jerry Lewis uses this same "schtick" years later in "The Nutty Professor" getting the principal to recite Shakespeare and then has him in all sorts of poses with an umbrella for a sword and then wrapped in something to look like a toga - but I digress (a habit of mine). Gene Kelly does a good job of trying to be the less dominant in the sense that he does not get the pr
  12. As you reflect upon female representation in the 1950s, where do you think this film character falls in the continuum? Why? Seems she is leaps ahead of where many characters were at that time - because she is not one-dimensional as in not JUST the "man-chaser" or "dumb-blonde" or sweet and sanguine girl-next-door. When I first watched this film a few years ago (not in my earlier life so many others), I wondered if there was a lesbian subtext that was being buried. Evidently, it was not(?) How do you think Doris Day grows as an actress in her various roles in the 1950s, before a
  13. Americans Celebrate Community and Conformity (title from Lecture Notes for "Band Wagon" Does anyone find it ironic that the House on Unamerican Activities (or HUAC) was spurred on during this same time - so did these plots with were celebrating community and conformity an ingredient in their suspicion stew or did it create their suspicion because writers and producers were promoting those rather than individualism? Just curious if others see the oxymoron here. Not pointing at the lecturers but at that committee which was a stain on American history.
  14. I find it difficult to have to hear a quarter of the 2nd week's review telling me that we can forgive the use of "blackface" in the 1940s musicals because "golly us black folks is jus' sos happy to be a part of y'alls lifes"! I think that person should join Mike Pence and his wifey at dinner as their special guest. Appalled that it could be said and then followed up at the end by saying that one day someone will watch what is being done today and find THAT shocking. Well no sh*t Sherlock! We ARE doing things today that are shocking but in the REAL WORLD - not just on film. So NO - I will
  15. Besides "West Side Story", where are "Carousel", "Oklahoma!" and "How to Succeed in Business...Without Really Trying" (with 60's version). They are truly classics. I realize there is a limit but I would have definitely eliminated the Judy Garland 3.5 hour "A Star Is Born" because she is wonderful but as a film that really sucked.
  16. Maybe I'm nuts, but where does that thought come from - what if she were singing about a child instead of her husband. Do we need to consult Dr. Freud here? There is a certain "girlish" smile and twinkle in her eye that I hope would be different if it were a different situation but of course since we are watching what is there on film and not imagining another scenario, it could be due to that. I find myself writing my responses and then looking just above to the comment above and often seeing the person has said much the same (which is why I don't like reading comments before I write my o
  17. Not sure how much "significance" can be found in any musical-comedy. There is a difference between "musicals" and musical-comedy, no? The plots are light and entertaining. Musicals segue into musical numbers pretty much, if you'll pardon the pun, right on cue. You can almost here the piano tuning up in the dialogue most times. Pretty predictable but probably disappointing if the actors didn't break out into a song. It is great to study these films but in my opinion over-analyzing things can take the joy out of them. Like what is the significance of a woman who is deliberately cast to be
  18. Ok - here I go again. I am a big fan of Judy Garland and have learned more about her part of film as I grew up. My earliest memory of her was in "The Wizard of Oz" and she was magnificent. However, after that, my next memories of her were from television and her shows and she was pretty much strung out on drugs by that time. She was always sort of slurring her words and not really the embellishment of her own craft any more. My father was a great fan so I listened and watched and thought it was great until recently when I went back and looked at some of that again and realized she was a m
  19. Thanks Dr. Edwards. Just seems when things "open" I end up behind everyone else! Not sure why but I do appreciate your response.
  20. Around minute 10:50 in the Lecture Video for Lecture #5: Cabin in the Sky (1943) with Vanessa Theme Ament and Richard Edwards, https://learn.canvas.net/courses/2206/pages/week-2-monday-an-historical-overview-of-the-second-decade?module_item_id=218041 Dr. Edwards brought up this subject - I believe it was Vincent Minnelli who brought editing into dance numbers to highlight certain moves. I remember something that Fred Astaire once said and emphasized about his own dance routines which is that often editing a routine was a way to "cheat" and that when those close-ups are shot it is not live but
  21. Found the way that President Roosevelt uses the phrase "You Irish Americans" to be somewhat off-putting. Another categorization that is unnecessary if you're trying to make an "All-American" type of film. And the stereotypes go on and on at that time in Hollywood. "Cabin in the Sky" is entertaining but chock-full.
  22. Why are we talking about the battle of the sexes in this obscure way when there was a BROAD palette presented to us in "The Love Parade"? OR is THAT the point - that it is SO apparent in Parade but supposedly less so in Top Hat. Really not sure but the obvious comparison to The Love Parade and the last U.S. election "possibilities" is enormous. And might STILL be one of the reasons it didn't happen. Even Bill could not convince his supporters that he was really behind being "First Gentleman".
  23. Wish Week 2 overview were unlocked so I could get a jump on it. It's busy when you want to watch films as well and the course material seems ironically out of sync with what I am watching. Also found it odd that so much emphasis in the quiz was put on a film that aired at 1:45 a.m. "The Love Parade" so I had to go to OnDemand on TCM to view it.
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