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  1. Haven't watched any Ruby Keeler films for several months until today, when seeing 42nd St again, I still love her. There are many other stars from the first half of the 20th century I also love, been watching alot of Chaplin and Buster Keaton silent films lately, those guys are great, their films are classic. Love that quaint, romantic music from the 1900s through the 1910s also
  2. I know how many of us 1930s fans have noticed the mid Atlantic accents such as Katharine Hepburn, Margaret Dumont, Cary Grant, and Donald Cook. But I'm still curious how many of you have noticed how many 1930s films have characters that have the loud, nasal voices with fast talking and quick temper attitudes? Some of the combination's can alter, like Ned Sparks is very nasal and somewhat temperamental, while James Cagney is only somewhat nasal but very quick to temper, and very fast talking, and someone who won't hesitate to knock you across the face at the slightest provocation (and in some of his films not hesitate to shoot you, "Public enemy" being best example of that. In "Taxi", he's also very temperamental and fast talking, but is more into punching someone out rather than shooting, but still does it at the slightest whim (like with David Landau at the bar (for earlier setting up Guy Kibbee to give up his business (and pushed to the ground by Nat Peddleton, who's also tough, nasal, and quick to anger)). More characters fast talking, nasal, and see no problem with not hesitating to fight are David Landau, George E. Stone, George Raft, and (very nasal) Robert Emmett Walsh (also sore, nasal cop in Marx Bros' "Night at the opera", Robert Barrett (Barbara Stanwyk's father in "Babyface"). Clark Gable also shared many of the similar fast talking, quick to temper attitudes, but like Cagney, didn't sound as nasal as some of the others like Ned Sparks, Robert Emmet Walsh, George Stone, etc. Common phrases of each of these mentioned characters were "Scram!!!", "Why...you (or "that") lousy, no good, dirty..!!!", "Hey!!! what's the idea!!!?", "Whatsamatta!!? Ya yella!!?" (the latter popular with Cagney), "Hey, what's with the dame!?". Other common words and sayings from those types of 1930s films, saying "sore" to mean angry, calling women "Dames", calling an attractive woman a "swell dish" (and "swell" itself beiing a popular word for great ("swell" then was like "cool" is today)). I still know of many other examples, but I was wondering if some of you could respond with some other examples.
  3. That's true, many of the mid Atlantic accents of 1930s and 1940s films were associated with the more prestigious characters, notable examples were of course Hepburn, and also Margret Dumont (and the gentlemen she was often with at the start of the Marx films before Groucho won her over), Warren Williams, Janette McDonald, and many others. Then there was the loud, nasel, often fast talking New York accent which numerous 1930s film characters had, examples being Ned Sparks, Robert Emmet O'Connor, James Cagney, and of course Edward G. Robinson. Generally what I've noticed is that the Mid Atlantic accents were usually reserved for characters who were more elite members of society, or were also often butlers and servants. And the loud nasel accents were often with roles of police officers, working class characters, and gangsters (Bogart was also in that category)
  4. You mentioned James Cagney, and you mentioned liking films with arrogance, cockiness, anger, fighting, etc., then two examples of that were Cagney's "Public enemy" 1931 and "Angels with dirty faces" 1936, which had plenty of arrogance, anger, and fighting. While many films of the 1930s and 1940s, especially after the Hays code went into effect, offered viewers an escape, others didn't.. "Public enemy" and ''Angels with dirty faces" didn't even show regular real life, it showed the ugliest sides of real life during that time, the inside showing of lives of the gangsters of the time. Cagney played a gangster in both films, and they were both based on true stories. In "Angels with dirty faces", Cagney played the famous gangster Rocky Sullivan, and in "Public enemy", Cagney's character and his friend were loosely based on two real guys who worked for Al Capone and his gang.
  5. Aside from Janette McDonald and Nelson Eddie, I don't think that the couples you listed had any off screen romance. Ruby Keeler and Dick Powell romanced only in their films and had no real life off screen romance according to everything that I've always read and heard. Powell was marrying Joan Blondell, and Ruby was married to Al Jolson (who also got jealous easily). With Janette and Nelson, they actually did have a real life romance off the screen and were really very much in love with each other. Janette's untimely death in the 1960s destroyed Nelson, and he passed away only a year or two later. They say when an older couple is really in love with each other, one will often die shortly after the other. My great grandparents passed away in close timing to each other also. Several theories on the reasons for that have been: a) the strain and upset on one losing the other when older and/or not well is too much for their body to handle, and it therefore causes fast physical deterioration and also causes an extra strain on the heart increasing the chance of heart attack. b) the survivor of the anamoured couple wants to join the departed in the hearafter as soon as possible, it's the survivor's pain of missing the departed so badly combined with their belief in being soulmates and their souls belong together. And, when someone wants to die badly enough when they're already older and not well, the body may cooperate. It's mind over matter to some degree. c) a couple that is really in love with each other and has been married can often share similar things with each other such as their type of health problems, them being similar age, and them having similar life habits (such as for example them both having been heavy smokers or heavy drinkers, and when they've done that together for years, the habits have taken a simultaneous toll on both of their healths). It's not even always only been married couples where this all has happened, dear lifelong friendships have also seen similar patterns. Walter Mathau and Jack Lemon were very close friends for many years (and starred in films together from "The Odd couple" in 1968 to "Grumpier old men" in 1994. When Walter died in 2000, it struck Jack Lemon hard and he passed on only a few months later. The two of them had a friendship strong enough to where they considered themselves soulmates
  6. I wonder if anyone here knows what types of films Ruby Keeler liked to watch, not star in but watch. I read somewhere once that Ruby loved "The sound of music" when it came out in 1962. And she also loved "Tea for two" in 1953 with Doris Day, which was also part of what influenced her to star in Broadway's "No no Nanette" in 1969. She probably didn't care so much for movies that came out in the 1980s and early 1990s before she passed on, movies had changed alot by then. Early 1960s films like "Sound of music" still had that old fashioned charm of films from the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s
  7. I could tell also that Janette and Nelson's love was real, their love and passion on the screen looked beyond where I could just say that they're brilliant actors. It's the same with the lovely Ruby Keeler, I could always tell the real and genuine love she had in her heart too. And, the wonderful Janette McDonald had a passion that could not be faked on screen. I knew before I even read it that Janette and Nelson were really in love. Their most wonderful and beautiful films was Naughty Marrietta, her opera singing, even on the boat sailing away when her singing would've given her presence away since she was supposed to be in disguise at that point in the film, I still completely forgive that in this case since her singing was heavenly. In Maytime, from her first two songs at her palace performance to her and Nelson at the end of the film with their spirits singing, since Janette's character had just passed away peacefully and was reunited with Nelson's spirit, who was shot and killed earlier in the film, the whole scene was a tearjerker. I'm glad I'm not an athiest because you just can't feel the same level of magic and wonder in scenes like that if you are In Rose Marie, their song Indian love call was magical, amazing. In Love me tonight, Janette singing the title song was so beautiful I still haven't seen but want to see Bittersweet, San Francisco, and The firefly.
  8. Yes, that is a good idea to put up flyers. Just putting an add on the internet and creating a web page may not be enough, and same with just flyers, I'll do both. I'll put the website on the flyers since that would definitely help direct more people to go onto the web page. And I can try to reserve a room in the library also. I now have an option besides nursing homes to find fans of 1920s - 1940s films and music. Truth is, it's starting to become now to where even many nursing home residents are now becoming the offspring of true 1920s and 1930s survivors rather than them themselves. When I'm going into the homes playing music from that time period, I'm more playing music from their parents' generation rather than theirs. An 80 - 85 year old now was only being born in 1933-1938, so they're not going to be able to recollect living through the early to mid 1930s and the roaring twenties. I still may be able to touch the hearts of the 90+ year olds though. Most people who really remember living through the 20s and 30s and enjoying the music and culture and films of that era as they were happening have now sadly passed on. I've just wanted to be able to connect with real survivors of the era, but it was just too long ago now and there are not many left. In another 10 years, there will be nobody left who'd remember living through the era. So anyway, I guess that I am now mainly limited to just connecting with people like me who have a real fondness and interest of the time period but have no actual memories of living through it due to being born after the era ended. So like I said before, I'll try to start a group of real fans of golden age's amazing music and films. I am 43 now, if I'd played the 20s and 30s music on the piano 20 - 25 years ago, I would've really been playing for quite a few people who remembered the 1920s and 1930s. But, I only started developing a love for that era and playing songs from back then in the past few years. I did play piano 20 - 25 years ago when I was in my late teens, early 20s, but it was modern pop music and classical like Mozart.
  9. I could start a group here in Kansas city where I live, since I have not been able to find such a group online near me (although there were several in New York (New York has more variety of everything though)). Since I also play some of those great 1930s songs on piano such as "42nd St" and "I only have eyes for you", one of those groups would also be an excellent opportunity to share my 20s, 30s and 40s style piano playing (I also play "Charleston"). I have played piano in two different nursing homes in the past year, but even they aren't a garuntee of finding fans of that era's music. One of the homes I played in, the activities director told me afterwards that there were residents there complaining about me playing music that was too old and wanted to hear newer music such as Elvis and the Beatles. That particular home though was also more of a recovery center than an old age home and there were numerous residents there in their 50s and 60s (some 70s and 80s too). I can see how 50 and 60 something year olds may not care for 20s and 30s music since that era ended before they were even born. This is why my best option for playing the music (besides a home where almost everyone is over 80) is not a nursing home, but me playing those songs on piano in a specialized group for serious fans of 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s music and films.
  10. I love Una Merkel, she is so charming and quirky, and beautiful. She has a semi kinky and witty since of humor, a great charm, and she is beautiful in her films. She had great chemistry with Eleanor Powell in "Born to dance" and "Broadway melody 36", she teamed up well with lovely Ginger Rogers and Ruby Keeler in "42nd street", she was great with the amazing Jean Harlow in "Red headed woman", and she had a sweet and touching role as Abraham Lincoln's first wife in 1930's "Lincoln" and her death scene was tear jerking. She was also great in later older roles such as the aunt in 1961 "The parent trap" and a funny scene at the police station when she lost her dog and they thought she was inquiring a missing persons report.
  11. Even though Ruby lacked the feminine grace of Ginger Rogers and Eleanor Powell in her dancing, she was able to tap out fabulous sounding rhythms with her shoes if you listen carefully, that was the part which was her real dancing talent. It doesn't matter to me that she may have appeared more clunky than Ginger and Eleanor, just listen to those skilled sounding rhythms that she tapped out. Ruby's singing was cute in her own way, but it's true that singing high soprano wasn't her specialty. In the middle section of "Dames'" "I only have eyes for you" when 30 Ruby Keelers were dancing and singing, the women sing that beautiful high soprano note while singing the chorus. I noticed along with the Ruby lookalikes, Ruby's mouth was also moving and appearing to sing along with the other women singing. But I am not sure that Ruby's real voice was actually singing the high soprano because whenever we really hear Ruby singing on her own, she sings more alto. I still like to think that Ruby's voice was one of the voices singing that beautiful high soprano
  12. I do like having found this site with other 1930s, 40s, and 50s movie fans to share my interests with. I'd like to find some kind of group where I can meet with other Golden age fans in person, but have not been able to find any yet.
  13. Not trying to rewrite anything, I really thought Brice was talking about Esther. As big as a fan as I am of the golden age, I'm always learning more as I go, there's still alot I don't know.
  14. I have not had the chance to see "The unguarded moment" yet. It's still on my list of not yet watched Golden age films that I want to see. I love golden age films, have seen hundreds of them now, but thankfully, there are a great many of them and more for me to go and see
  15. As Fanny Brice said "Wet, Esther's a star, dry, she ain't", so even other golden age celebrities didn't all care for her. I like Esther, but that's just my opinion. She was pleasant, pretty, a great swimmer, and her swimming musical numbers were spectacular. But, she didn't really have much else such as a knack for good comedy, and didn't portray very deep or interesting characters in her films, and I can see how some may not find her their favorite for those reasons. I did enjoy "Thrill of a romance" though, it was a nice, feel good romance with comedy added such as opera singer Lauritz Melchior struggling to stay on a diet while being watched over by his wife, and the humorous scene of him finally convincing the manager to let him sing for a steak and beer, only to have his nagging wife snatch it from him. That film was also a showcase of some talent with besides Esther's swimming, there was Lauritz's great opera singing, Buddy Rich's very fast and skilled drum playing, Tommy Dorsey's daughter Susan's talented piano playing a very good jazzed up version of Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody and "The man with the sliding trombone", and then there was that kid (bellhop) who tried to hide a gifted singing voice of his own, then was discovered by Lauritz while singing "Don't say no, say maybe" and then sang "Because" for the hotel.
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