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Could any of you help me, please?
May of 2004 on the 17th was Maureen O'Sullivan movie day, I got to record Stage Mother which came on in the morning but there was a 1 or 2 films of her's on before that in the early morning, I needed to know the title of the two that were shown. Does TCM keep old schedules, do any of you keep your TCM programs? If so, could you please give me the schedule of movies for that day?
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Could any of you help me, please?
May of 2004 on the 17th was Maureen O'Sullivan movie day, I got to record Stage Mother which came on in the morning but there was a 1 or 2 films of her's on before that in the early morning, I needed to know the title of the two that were shown. Does TCM keep old schedules, do any of you keep your TCM programs? If so, could you please give me the schedule of movies for that day?
Thanks
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Do any of know of Marjorie White? Oh my goodness, she was so pretty and talented. She was a wonderful comedienne, great with musical comedy. She stole every scene in every movie she was in. You can't help but notice her and like her. I saw her in one movie and I was hooked. I've seen many of her movies and she has yet to bore me. She's really great and if she hadn't died in 1935 at the height of her career, who knows what she would of become. She belongs as one of the best with Carole Lombard, Lucille Ball, Virginia O'Brien, Jean Harlow, Patsy Kelly, Pert Kelton. But she was in a class of her own. She was a hit on the stage to, she was in a long running show with Lupe Velez and Eleanor Powell. I guess her most known film is Woman Haters which she did with The Three Stooges, she had signed a contract at RKO before she died to be in a movie with Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers.... man that would of been great. She never was really a star of a movie but she was a great character actress and held her own with the big stars. She was the first to curse in films.
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I found out Frances Redd was related to Korla Pandit, he passed for white or indian and became a popular mind reader or whatever and was the first to have a television show, he was in a few movies, partied with the rich and famous of the time, until this day the family denies but there is proof.
Here is the website on him
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1346/is_6_46/ai_74869829
Did you get to record it because my record didn't get it of all the nights it had to mess up on this night.
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Some were asking along with me would TCM show some of those classic Black Cinema movies outside of Hollywood. This Thursday night at 4:45TCM will be showing Midnight Shadow, it's about 51 minutes. In my opinion it's not a true classic but there is some good acting from Edward Brandon especially the breakdown scene, a handsome actor. It was directed by George Randol who was an actor on stage and screen, he directed and produced mostly.
Ruby Dandridge is in it, Dorothy Dandridge's mother.
I know people are quick to judge these movies for lack of this and that but I say look at the talent and effort not judge so critically by your standards.
A lot of people call it Black Cinema because it was for blacks by blacks but today all races can see them but you wouldn't call white movies, white cinema and these people are actors and actresses before their black, race isn't an issue in some of these movies though a black cast they have the privilege in this movie to play human beings from all walks of life like the whites.
TCM thanks, show more in the near future, movies such as Swing, Dark Manhattan, Paradise In Harlem, Moon Over Harlem, some of Micheaux's movies of the 30's instead of the silents, Dirty Gertie from Harlem, Mystery In Swing, so much more.
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Maybe I'm the only Black on this board but I thought I should reply maybe some won't post with me anymore but here goes. Speaking for myself I kind of gotten over getting mad at whites in blackface because many like Al Jolson for instance was actually paying homage to black performers by putting on a darker face and portraying black talent, slang and humor, than some were just making fun. The black entertainment is very evident in the classic Hollywood and Broadway. Many of the great stars credit Blacks as influencing them. Greta Garbo who never singed or danced or did anything containing to Black culture said blacks energy, heart, soul, left an impression on her and she tried to put some of that through her performances. As far as all the blackface it gets boresome but it shows what whites than thought of Blacks than and still today...nothing but "d a r k i e s" who are only good for singing and dancing. It just shows the ignorance and non-concern for others. You wouldn't see MaDonna, Britney Spears in blackface today because they know what will happen. But back then we had to sit back and take it because Blacks had no say. Maybe if more whites who were bold enough like Myrna Loy, Libby Holman, or Clark Gable to speak out about all the racism and stereotypes of Blacks, maybe it could of ended but most didn't care, it wasn't happening to them, they didn't want a black on their level anyway, they could care less about the "colored" but only to play the maid or servant or maybe to teach them how to sing and dance. It takes a strong one to go against the majority and to treat a black equal, in those days you didn't want to known as a n***** lover, that could end your career and you could be shunned but someone like Myrna Loy cared more about her fellow man than superiority and fame and fortune. Now, today, you got black comedians who make fun of whites, and whites have the nerve to get mad and say that's prejudice and racist, well I think what went around is coming around. Blacks had to sit back and take it than but I look at the talent not the color, some whites couldn't do that.
If they do show The Birth of a Nation than I hope they show Oscar Micheaux's answer to that film showing the truth about who was **** who and being violent and so on. Both of these movies shows the lies, deceit, corrupt, and why some of these beliefs are still present. Whites may very well get mad over Micheaux's, Blacks will of course get upset over Birth of a Nation, naturally, do we suppose to sit up and applaud it and overlook the cruelty and look at the great work? My heart goes out to the blacks who had to go through such hell for no reason, the stupidity, mentally ill is very apparent.
Could you sit through a movie without getting a little mad if you saw your race humiliated and ridiculed? But it shows how all the hate started and why it still is here and how it was breeded into the white race. It didn't happen over night and it won't end over night. If I was white I would be upset at seeing what my past ancestors did and it would really open my eyes.
White Hollywood had a racist label for all races, chinese, asian, mexican, blacks, orientals you name it. Even Hollywood did pictures on whites racism and prejudices toward non whites and none of them ever provided a reason for why. Merle Oberon had to pass for white to be a star, she couldn't as a Indian though she wasn't dark but it was in her blood. Fredi Washington was told if she passed, she would be as big as Norma Shearer, Joan Crawford, Constance Bennet, Claudette Colbert, she said, why can't I be what I am, though she was as white as them, she was a black woman and that's why. There's no telling how many did pass for white for fame and fortune. It wasn't all Hollywood's fault, they had to please the majority in America. Any actress who looked to ethnic was made to look more whiter because americans believed white was right and better, right because they knew how they would be treated if they weren't white, the very same people this country didn't belong to in the first place.
I don't believe in forgetting the past, the past lets us know where we come from and possibly where we going and how to make up for past bad behaviors. I think the past shows the ignorance, stupidity and having no reason for cruelty and brutality but having to use it to be number one and controlling. A lot of whites say forget the past, is it to keep their conscience clear? I feel why not talk about it, to try to get over it. Don't be offended if your not guilty. Ancestors past actions is still evident. We learn from the past why things happen the way it did.
I find it interesting that America apologized to the Chinese or Japanese for doing them wrong in ww2, and they wanted war with America, yet America apologized and repayed them, yet their thinking about whether to apologize to Blacks, they very people who been the most loyal, fought in all the wars for the white's freedom but didn't have full freedom here. Should have Blacks waged war with white america? Would that the only way to get respect. Food for thought!
Another thing, all the things that was thought of as ugly on blacks now is considered beauty...fuller lips, a voloptous behind, people don't want to be snow white anymore. Yet, many treat ones who really have darker skin badly. It's not about color, it's all about control, power and knowing who's boss.
I see a lot of partiality here at the board, you all know every white actor or actress there is but hardly any Black, you know a few token ones, the ones who meet your standards. Me, being an open minded person. I know basically all the white and black of classic entertainment and I don't put white over here and black over there. I judge all their beauty and talent together. I wish TCM wouldn't wait until black history month to play certain films, why not show them year round. It seems people want to honor the people who portray the talent but not the ones who created it and behind it. We don't ever hear about Willie Covan who taught white dancers many of their great choreography in the movies. We hear about Busby Berkeley, but they kept the black man hidden but not his genius of dancing. Ralph Cooper is never applauded for his work behind the scenes in "Poor Little Rich Girl," which is considered Shirley Temple's and Alice Faye's best. We all know if these were white men, they would talked about a great deal.
To reply to the one poster, I would be apart of the NAACP or any other black organization that would help blacks in their community by being their backbone, their voice, No one else would! It's apart of the black culture, helping, accomplishing, enduring, sacrificing, unity and through it all blood, sweat and tears but usually a win at the end. For the one poster, you don't have to join the **** to feel like your superior. Let's just try to make up for the past by being better people. If ones followed God's rule of looking at the heart and not judging outwardly appearance we would be a better people.
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Nina Mae McKinney in Hallelujah... "Get outta the way, small change, you don't look like no big money to me!"
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wojo2110, I was reading you recorded The Bachelor Father starring Marion Davies. I wanted to see this movie do bad but miss it. Could you email me at msladysoul@aol.com
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Maybe I'm a fanatic but anyone I like, I like to know everything about them. It does upset me sometime when I hear my favorite did something or was apart of something that I don't agree with like being promisicous, homosexuality, drugs, violence, abuse, racism, but we all have flaws and wrongs, just hope they learn from it.
They seem so perfect to us, like they could do no wrong so to hear our dream guy or girl did or done this or that can be upsetting at times. Most of my favorites have done things I would dislike the next door neighbor for but I have learned not to put stars on pedestals because your heart can get broken when you find out the truth. Everything that glitters isn't gold.
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Well, classicfan, I enjoyed reruns in the beginning myself but how on earth can you learn about other classic, overlooked gems. I wouldn't know about the great Marjorie White, Alice White, Marian Marsh, Ona Munson if it weren't for TCM sneaking them in every now and then. I wish more of their movies would be showed. I mean, come on, even hearing a favorite song can be too much sometime. I love Myrna Loy but I would like to see her rare movies because their good to.
I like what you said nsallieharding, TCM is mostly all I watch and if nothing on I watch some movies I recorded.
It seems when TCM had competition with AMC, they really went to work and showed some good movies now that AMC isn't competition anymore their not working hard to show us some real classics.
I think somewhere that TCM doesn't have permission to play certain movies so even though they may have certain ones in their library they can't play them so that's why we get some movies played consistently.
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I'm kind of upset with TCM. For the past few years, they been having the same stars for summer under the stars and most of the movies they are showing are shown year round.
I would like to see more obscure stars shown or movies shown by big stars that we don't normally see like for instance, Ginger Rogers, I would like to see her movies without Fred Astaire. I would like to see Ann Sothern, Joan Blondell, Ann Sheridan, Marion Davies, Dick Powell, Myrna Loy have a day of movies.
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I agree with everything you said bggalaxy. I believe there was immoral, wild, crazy jerks back than but the studios protected it for sure. People had morals and values back then outside but what they did inside, behind close doors was a different story. At least I can respect the fact they kept their business to themselves back than instead of letting it all hang out as people and stars do today.
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I agree with everything you said bggalaxy. I believe there was immoral, wild, crazy jerks back than but the studios protected it for sure. People had morals and values back then outside but what they did inside, behind close doors was a different story. At least I can respect the fact they kept their business to themselves back than instead of letting it all hang out as people and stars do today.
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I agree with everything you said bggalaxy. I believe there was immoral, wild, crazy jerks back than but the studios protected it for sure. People had morals and values back then outside but what they did inside, behind close doors was a different story. At least I can respect the fact they kept their business to themselves back than instead of letting it all hang out as people and stars do today.
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Forgot to add, what classic stars got that today's stars don't is, they just had faces then.
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What do movie stars today lack that doesn't make them equally fascinating as our classic stars in your opinion?
To me, stars today lack appeal, mystery, allure.
They lose respect by cheapening themselves parading around half naked in movies and in their real lives. Classic stars left something to the imagination, they showed you can be sexy with clothes on. Their breath taking gowns and costumes flattered their figure making them more sexy.
The biggest one is classic stars believed in their image and illusion. They knew the world looked up to them, so not to disappoint they made sure and the studios made sure they lived up to whatever image, whether it was right or wrong. Now we know many stars weren't the image we thought but that's what makes them so great, living up to that perfection not tainting themselves and letting the world know like stars today. Stars today like to say, were just like you regular people, classic stars didn't because they knew the world didn't see them as one of them, movie stars were put on pedestals. You would never catch a classic star in torn jeans, hair messy and such.
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Would love to see Ginger Rogers as star of the month. I would love to see her other movies without Fred Astaire.
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Some may know, some may not but dear Frances Langford has passed away at 91. The great singer of the war who travelled alongside Bob Hope to entertain the troops and no one did it better and wholeheartedly as Frances Langford. She was a movie star in her own right but her voice was the greaest. She was a little lady but with a big irresistible voice. She filled out in the 40's and became a blonde and more sensual. May she rest in peace. I wish she would of wrote a book. How do you all feel about Frances Langford? A great singer of classic Hollywood?
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I been reading about and hearing about Elizabeth Short a.k.a The Black Dhalia. I know some of you heard of her, the attractive young lady who went out to Hollywood hoping for fame and fortune but ended up dying in a horrible way. She was named after Veronica Lake's movie, The Blue Dhalia. She gain fame allright in Hollywood history but in the worse way. She's one of many but the most horrible of many girls who go to the big city to be a star but meet a deadly fate. Her life seems like a movie. Until this day she's still talked about, still interesting, people still trying to figure out what happen, who did this unspoken cruel act to her, what brought her to that. In her short young life she done a lot in Hollywood, some say she hung out with stars. She tops any legend in Hollywood, she has about 8 books out on her and a documentary. Now, that's something for a woman who never appeared in movies but gain worldwide fame and rememberance.
Well, at least she got what she wanted fame but in the worse way.
Doesn't she have those classic movie star looks for any of you who ever seen her? How do some of you feel about her?
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There's one movie short called Manhattan something with Nina Mae McKinney and The Brox Sisters- a white young child group. Well, anyways, this film was made in the pre code era and because of the involvement of a black and white, the film was slated from being shown long because of complaints. Nina Mae was hugging or playing with the white girls in the scene of the short, that got people hot. How ignorant some were then. Now it's said to be lost.
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I was going to post something on Lois Moran. She was a beauty. She's another one of those we don't hear a lot about but was popular in their time. She had a spark and you don't want to take your eyes off of her once you see her. She had another kind of beauty, soft and alluring...another beauty type of the 1930's. There was so many beauty types of the 1930's, that's why I love that era more. She really left an impression on me and will be looking for more on her.
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My favorite beauties are of the 1930's. So many different varieties of beauty. You had your Jean Harlow- sexy. You had your Mary Astor-innocent beauty, Myrna Loy- classy and sophisticated, Nancy Carroll- winsome, dainty beauty, Joan Blondell- all american beauty, Anita Page- soft beauty, Dorothy Van Engle, Nina Mae McKinney, Ethel Moses-black and beautiful with all the above.
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I wasn't putting down Billie Holiday. I think she's beautiful and wonderful. I'm just saying today you don't see various talents and rare beauties. Today it seems all these young singers sound the same, same style, same songs. Someone like Billie Holiday and Helen Morgan today would lose out if they didn't be half nude, shake their booty and shout and yell. I saw one singer on American Idol who had kind of the same style as Billie but she didn't win or go far on any show because she wasn't singing the norm... hip hop and rap and hardcore r&b. It's like if your not of the norm you won't make it today, it's like they won't except individuality today and differences.
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I do love Ruby Keeler. She was so pretty to me. I always liked her. To me, she could dance, she danced fine with James Cagney and in Dames and in . I think she's wonderful. All dancers have their own way of dancing and there's also another secret to performing... a lot of times if you don't have the talent, if you have personality and charm it makes you look good and take away the flaws.
Some people can't see how Ginger Rogers sung on stage and screen, some say she wasn't much of a singer but she thought so.
Did anyone get to record Scarlet Pages and Dancing Sweeties today?
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Hello everyone
Was anyone able to record, Scarlet Pages and Dancing Sweeties. My recorder missed both. I'd be willing to pay or trade, I have quite few films particularly of the 1930's. Thanks, please help a classic fan out, you may need it someday, =)
my email is msladysoul@aol.com