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with Gene Markey who also married Hedy Lamarr right after Joan and Myrna Loy after Hedy.At one point Joan had a 'Hedy period' with her own hairdo sometime if you look fast they looked the same .I have seen many photos,as I collected original pix of Hedy
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Well I hope the 'refresh' will not have the effect of an Ex-Lax on me...
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'Sympathy for the Drummer why Charlie Watts Matters ' a recent book on Charlie Watts was published just before his death.www.thestranger.comFsympathy-for-the-drummer-is-an-unbeatable-analysis-of-the-rolling-stones-charlie-watts it looks very good and is well written. FROM A REVIEW The author offers several convincing reasons why Watts matters, why he may be the most important Stones member, and [SPOILER ALERT] why he’s the greatest rock-and-roll drummer—and he's extremely entertaining in proving his theses. Sympathy for the Drummer is the opposite of a dry biography. Edison—who's written for Spin, Daily Beast, and Interview, and once served as publisher and editor of High Times—takes a mostly chronological approach to Watts’s and the Stones' stories, going through each phase with perceptive insights, contextualizing Charlie and the band in the grand scheme of music history, detailing the Stones’ personnel changes, off-stage antics, drug and alcohol problems, interpersonal conflicts, etc. Edison's writing style is flamboyant, funny, and frisky, and his observations are bolstered by his own experiences as a drummer in rock bands such as GG Allin & the Holy Men, Sharky's Machine, Raunch Hands, and Edison Rocket Train. His knowledge of early rock, blues, jazz, and country also makes him well-suited to analyze the Stones' dalliances with other genres. Edison's perspicacity about the timekeepers of rock and roll's pioneers is illuminating, giving shine to musicians commonly overlooked in music histories. His assessments of the jazz drummers who made the biggest impact on Watts’s style are also revelatory. The key to Watts's success, Edison asserts, is "he never overplayed his hand, never chased flashy fills, never competed with the rest of the band for air space, never played anything just because he could. He found nuance in a music that often had little room for it, and along with his greatest conspirator, Keith Richards, he gave the Stones their swaggering beat." He deems Charlie one of the great minimalists of music, the epitome of the less-is-more ethos. In the process of praising Watts's precision and restraint, Edison mercilessly slams excessive showboater Buddy Rich and casts a skeptical eye/ear toward Rush's Neil Peart and his humongous-kit-loving ilk. Also, Jeff Beck, Doors, and Aerosmith fans may burst a blood vessel upon reading Sympathy for the Drummer. Nevertheless, even if you respect those musicians, these putdowns are supremely entertaining. In another passage, Edison further nails down why Watts rules: "Charlie's style was seemingly uncomplicated, but it was impossible to duplicate. He was an enlightened savant, unchained. His unique, old-world sense of syncopation and newfound futurist frenzy pushed the Rolling Stones over the top into an unparalleled stratum of audacity, courage, and revolt..." Edison has something interesting to say about each Rolling Stones album, even if the releases themselves aren't interesting. Once we're past 1981's Tattoo You, his enthusiasm really wanes, and you can't blame him. However, it's nice to see someone give the oft-scorned Black and Blue the props it deserves. I asked Edison if he’d tried to get an interview with Mr. Watts, and he said, “Charlie has a no-interview policy and the Stones don’t cooperate with anything unauthorized. I made a perfunctory stab, but it wasn’t gonna happen. Honestly, it is better this way; I don’t owe them anything or feel any obligation to pull punches.” That checks out. And although Edison doesn’t shy away from noting the Stones’ aesthetic and personality flaws, and Watts's struggles with alcoholism and drug addiction, the band and their drummer still emerge at the end of Sympathy for the Drummer’s 249 pages looking more like Mick Jagger’s bank account than Keith Richards's visage. 9/10, would read again.
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Well i saw the Cars headlining a 19000 sold out Forum in Montreal in 1979 they even sold standing room only tix which was un common,it is the worst show i have ever seen and saw a few thousand of them, i told the drummer David Robinson about it, i told them a 55 minutes show (with a horrendous sound system) having 2 albums out do not justify such a short set.They never played in Montreal again.The Cars got ripped off at the Grammys-they gave the new artist award to A Taste Of Honey.Ocasek had many songs written while waiting for the big time. Many artists spread them on the first 2 or even 3 lps in case the first is a stiff. but at the 3rd lp they were running out of gas-pun not intended and got another hit lp with Heartbeat City in 84-85 but they were not a live band and Ocasek hated performing.A thread on Ric Ocasek was your choice and your right .
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Death Takes No Holiday -- The Obituary Thread
nakano replied to Richard Kimble's topic in General Discussions
Lee 'Scratch' Perry Reggae star died on August 29 at 85.www.rollingstone.comlee-scratch-perry-dead-obit- -
Death Takes No Holiday -- The Obituary Thread
nakano replied to Richard Kimble's topic in General Discussions
Iron Butterfly's original member & drummer Ron Bushy died from cancer on August 29 ,www.loudersound.comiron-butterfly-drummer-ron-bushy-dead-at-79 -
When he was asked if he was a fan of the Rolling Stones Charlie always answered 'no,this is what i do'. He was i would say a' bureaucrat musician' of sort,if the term exist...
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😉 Well Charlie was in several movies.... including one titled ' Charlie is my Darling''from the Stones tour of Ireland in 65 i think,
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Hey a last one from the same film, a great Chuck Berry cover.
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Charlie had a big drum collection in a big warehouse,he collected drum sets of his jazz idols like Elvin Jones etc. Of course he could have managed a room whatever on his 2 properties.But i do not think he was blaming his wife,he agreed to it,saying the truth that is all ,he had so many other things to do and hobbies to share with his wife.
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I finally got Street Fighting Man this was the last song of the set right after Jumping. Jack Flash.Amazing version the second show of that day !! There was no band who could outplayed live the Stones between 69-75.Taylorand Richards were amazing on lead and rhytm respectively,listen to Charlie's drumming,and Wyman was so good at the bass,a perfect live band then.Any body who have seen the 72 tour will tell you nobody was better than the Stones live
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One more from June 1972 in Fort Worth Texas from the movie ,better image,sound,you will hear more of Charlie,s work,Jagger was 29 then he had incredible stamina as the Stones were doing many afternoon and evening shows on the tour and these shows were always high energy ones.The would not let me put Street f man but i got the next to last song of the show Jumping Jack Flash you will notice there is an extra chord mistake done by Keith at the very end Jagger looks at Charlie and laughs about it!
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Death Takes No Holiday -- The Obituary Thread
nakano replied to Richard Kimble's topic in General Discussions
Eric Wagner ex singer of doom metal band Trouble dies of covid19 at 62 on August 22nd ,Being opposed to institutionalized medicine, he refused to be vaccinated. He completed a solo album before his death, to be released posthumously.Trouble made 2 very good metal lps in the mid 80's.Sounding like early Black Sabbath.-singer-eric-wagner-dies-after-covid-19-battle -
TCM should show El Vampiro from 1957-58 a great vampire movie with good music score a real classic there is a French and Engligh version
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Randy was star of the month in july 2006 i think.Well if Lucille Ball is having her third-no less-star of the month tribute in october with her lousy movie career i think Randy deseves another shot...
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Yes i know but with Charlie gone it is a different story,They do not like each other that much you know...
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Charlie already agreed to not tour this year for the 1st time,for medical reasons,The tour was postponed already. After the tour it is going to be different,they might stop completely or do a real farewell tour,the Stones never announced a farewell tour.I would prefer they would do one farewell show at the Marquee club in London and broadcast it. It would be more fitting,one farewell show in 2022 for 60 years.
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Nice tribute from the 11th Hour on MSNBC by the excellent Brian Williams. "If the Beatles changed the world, the Stones taught it how to dance. And all the while, thru the decades and on 30 albums, Charlie Watts kept the time... a quiet man who spoke with his sticks, and with those two pieces of wood in his hands, he spoke volumes and left us anthems to mark our time together here on earth."
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Great memories the greatest tour,Charlie Watts prefered line up was the 1969 -74 one with Mick Taylor,his guitar playing was-is amazing,listen to Watts's drumming this is the first song and the last from the set,a wild Street Fighting Man,i saw the show in montreal the week before then,best show i have ever seen.The 1972 Rolling Stones American tour was the most spectacular,important tour, it brought concerts tours to a new level.Just to give you an idea of its importance Led Zeppelin toured the States at exactly the same time ,selling out but being eclipsed totally ignored by the press, a lesson Zep never forgot.. the Stones tour was of that magnitude with riots in many cities,news fron various cities every day,almost 50 shows in 53 days ! The Stones did not do any encore except 5 or 6 times,mostly in Philly & NYC for their last stop They did as an encore a medley of Uptight -Satisfaction with Stevie Wonder who was the support act for the whole tour.The last 4 shows were in NYC at MSG,Dick Cavett made a 1 hour special broadcasted on August 4th 1972 as his ABC late show,i remember recording it on a cassette then !! With backstage interviews a short time before the july 25th afternoon show it was a great special.Brown Sugar was always the opening number and Street Fighting Man the closing one.This is the actual footage of the complete live numbers as shown then. on ABC.On this tour their version of SFMan was extraordinary,heavy,powerful,with the amazing guitar of Mick Taylor,his incredible solos and with Keith doing great rythm,when you hear Taylor you realize the huge loss the Stones suffered by his departure .
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when you will remember who it is please start another thread,thanks
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When the Stones filmed their show in Tempe-Arizona at the end of their81 fall tour it was filmed by Hal Ashby,they made a special thing bringing 50 women( maybe more )dressed as '**** tonk women'.It was the crew 's (and the Stones ) wives.Shirley-Charlie Watts 's wife is appearing in a red top near the drums at around 1.06 minutes and you can see again a few seconds later.She is a beautiful woman.
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To jamesjazzguitar; Charlie Watts had no drums at home,sorry you do not believe this because it would be possible for you,it is not a question of money,.If you want the ultimate proof st thomas, watch the video they did last year for the covid 19 the 4 Stones in their respective home,Charlie is 'air drumming' Shirley (his wife) never wanted drums in any of their 2 houses. And that's the truth would say Ernestine... here is the link
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the legendary sticksman did not have a drum set at home. Charlie once said it was because his wife of 57 years, Shirley, didn’t like the noise. He explained: “I can’t play the drums at home so I have to go on the road, and to go on the road, I have to leave home, and it’s like a terribly vicious circle that’s always been my life.”He once said: “The one regret I have of this life is that I was never home enough.”
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He had an excellent sense of humor,a very funny man.
