FredCDobbs

>I hope this is not in poor taste. I don't think it is. I'm sure everyone here feels sorry for the passengers and their family members. One time when I was in the news business, I covered a major airliner crash into a large lake. It took the feds 4 or 5 days to find the exact crash site. There was crash debris all over the lake after the first day.

I leave my bedroom TV on all night, tuned to TCM, with the sound turned down. I usually wake up two or three times in the middle of the night. Last night or early this morning I woke up, opened my eyes, and saw some guys in Irish clothes doing a blackface song and dance routine. Then I closed my eyes and went back to sleep. One morning I woke up and saw a naked girl, but I fell asleep again. One morning I woke up and saw a bunch of pornography photos from the 1950s or 60s, with some guy preaching against poronography photos. He showed many of them as an example of the kind that should not be seen. I then fell asleep again. Some weird stuff comes on TCM in the middle of the night.

Here's a news story from 3/15/14 *Uighur separatists claim over missing flight MH370 may be re-examined* http://www.news.com.au/national/uighur-separatists-claim-over-missing-flight-mh370-may-be-reexamined/story-fncynjr2-1226855911080 CLAIMS by a Malay newspaper that a 35-year-old Uighur man from China?s troubled autonomous Muslim province was on Flight MH370 may be looked at in new light after being written off as irrelevant. An email sent to journalists, supposedly from representatives from the Uighur separatist movement, claimed for responsibility for the Malaysia Airlines flight?s disappearance. The emails were dismissed as opportunistic and troublemaking. XINJIANG SEPARATIST FORCES BEHIND STABBING MASSACRE PICTURES: CHINA?S UIGHUR RIOTS Malaysia?s Harian Metro claimed the man had taken flight-simulator training in Sweden in 2005.

>I've watched the coverage of the missing Malaysian plane today. Lost Horizon came to mind -- all those people leaving Baskul, China, getting diverted to the deepest Himalayas, where they are taken to Shangri-La. I posted this link last night. If the Malaysia plane went north, it could have crossed over this mountain range: They actually should hire us to sit in a room and come up with possible ideas, because we know all the possible "plots" already.

Early on, there was one Malaysia newspaper report that said some unknown Western Chinese terrorist group sent some media an email claiming credit. This would have been related to the group that killed the 29 people at a China train station 2 weeks ago. But you are right, we have received so much bad and incorrect information and it keeps changing. The media is receiving information from poor uneducated third-world nation workers, and several governments. These are two groups that often give out unreliable information. And the media is publishing all of it because it sells newspapers and increases TV news viewing ratings. I feel sorry for all the relatives waiting for word about the airplane.

Here is a new map made by the Wall Street Journal. The point where the northern red arc, numbered 5, crosses the northern dotted line arc, numbered 3, corresponds to the point of the red arrow on the map I posted yesterday, showing the plane could have landed or crashed over Western China.. These two arcs correspond to the last satellite ping (red arc 5) and the limits of the airplanes fuel supply (dotted line arc 3) after a total of a 7 hour flight. I estimated the final flight straight line flying, from the LAST MILITARY RADAR CONTACT point, to the point where the two arcs meet, to be about 5 hours, flying at about 550 MPH. WALL STREET JOURNAL MAP from 3/17/14: FREDs MAP from 3/16/14: . ---------------------------------------------------- *Where the Southern arcs 3 and 5 meet would be the approximate ocean crash site if the plane took the southern route into the Indian ocean, instead of taking the northern route.*

What do you think about Xinjiang Uygur as a final destination for the airplane? A terrorist group based there was the one that killed all the Chinese people by stabbing at a train station a couple of weeks ago. A route from the Andaman Sea to Southwest Xinjiang Uygur would cross the satellite transmission arc at about that place, after about 5 hours flying time at 550 MPH, if we figure 7 hours total from takeoff to end of fuel. This would end up at the far Northeast side of Afghanistan, where Afghanistan meets Southwest Xinjiang Uygur. This would be a Route just East of India, and over Nepal and Tibet. There is not much radar coverage of that area of the world. Edited by: FredCDobbs on Mar 16, 2014 3:08 PM

Try YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sa_BHJz2Ns

Goldwynisms are just as important and famous now as Ben Franklin's famous sayings.

I think I did the right thing by deleting my first two posts. It was "too soon". But now, after all the news media speculation and circus, it is no longer "too soon". I sure hate to fly. I've managed not to fly during the past 21 years. Too frightening today, with both crazy passengers AND crazy pilots, and airplane computers that do odd things. When my home computer does something odd and crashes, I usually survive that. Back in the 1980s and early 90s, I used to land at and take off from this place, with one of the world's shortest runways: A hard landing at Tegucigalpa Airport:

>How far the plane could have flown? "Malaysia said new data showed the last communication between the missing plane and satellites at 8:11 a.m. (0011 GMT), almost seven hours after it turned back and crossed the Malay peninsula." *http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/15/malaysia-airlines-wrapup-10-pictures-tv-idUSL6N0MC0G920140315*

I hope they landed.

Dang, CNN just announced that the arcs are NOT THE FLIGHT PATHS. They must be reading our posts.

See these quotes from a New York Times report: "The Malaysian authorities released a map showing that the last satellite signal received from the plane had been sent from a point somewhere along one of two arcs spanning large distances across Asia." ....................... "The satellite can "see" in an arc that stretches to the north and south of its fixed position, but without GPS it can say only how far away the ping is, not where it is coming from, the person said." --------------------------------- >The "Red Arc" is simply the 360 degree radius from the vantage point of the satellite in which the plane could had flown with the available fuel. That is correct. The arc shows the radius of the satellite signal travel-distance from the airplane to the satellite and the satellite to the airplane, at the time of the last known ping transmission. 7 or so hours into the flight. But many of the news reporters are saying the arc represents the flight path of the airplane. They don't seem to understand that the flight path could have been a straight line, while the arc represents the radius of the distance of travel of the satellite signal. What needs to be added to the illustrations is the 5 to 7 hours flying time. Where that crosses the arc, that is where the last signal was received. The plane could have flown to that point in a straight line. ................ THIS JUST IN... Ok, one expert just finally said that on CNN. The flight path could have been a straight line, but he said we should search for the airplane at the ends of the arcs, because that is where the plane would have run out of fuel. That is the first correct statement about the arcs I've heard all day.

Ham, what do you think of the latest Red Arc theory that news programs have been reporting all day? Many reports incorrectly said the plane flew in this arc, either to the north or south. This is NOT correct. Do you know what the arc means? It has to do with the last satellite ping signal received from the airplane. The news reporters are talking as if ALL the satellite pings came from the airplane flying along that arc, but that is not correct. According to the New York Times article, this arc represents only the distance from the satellite at the time of the LAST ping. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight.html?_r=0 Fred

>Fred, that clip skipped around so much, it really couldn't be seen. But I'm glad you noticed, too. It looks like the first part of the scene is cut out. It's the guy on the left in the light colored jacket and the hat and we see him bent over a desk looking out the window and we see the outside stairway leading upward toward the left. He was looking up at the women who had already passed the window, but the women have been cut out of this clip.

>Now they are thinking it was pirates ( but what are they going to do with that plane?) I think the plane had the range to fly to Somalia. Maybe some group planned to hold it and the passengers for ransom. However, there has been so much conflicting information in the media, I don't think anyone knows what happened to it yet. OR, someone might know but might be withholding the information. There are too many governments involved with this information, and they don't always work well together and each one probably wants to be "in charge". It still could be a loss of cabin pressure and a loss of oxygen, and everyone on board could have died, with the airplane flying around by itself. This has happened at least twice to other planes in the past 20 years. One an airliner in Europe and another a private jet in the US. Both crashed with everyone on board already unconscious or dead because of hypoxia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Australia_Beechcraft_King_Air_crash

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"There aren't supposed to be any mysteries in the Digital Age. The answers to most questions, it seems, can be found using Google or Twitter. So, maybe that's why the world is captivated by the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 and why it has created a legion of armchair sleuths, spouting theories in some cases so strange they belong in science-fiction films." *http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/missing-malaysian-plane-creates-legion-armchair-sleuths-219909.html*

Yes he does look like me when I was younger, fighting in the War between France and Liechtenstein. He is holding the flagpole tight because the Liechtensteiners would often sneak up and steal our flags. They made ladies dresses out of them. You know this method of film synchronization was very good and it is too bad more music wasn't filmed like this. I think they recorded the music first, then the singer lip synched as he was listening to the music and being filmed, while the music was being played back. Today, such film and recordings can be easily synchronized with very simple equipment.

Current 3/13/14 news map of lost airliner search area in the Indian Ocean: *http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/malaysialead-01-464411.jpg* Bing map of location of fictional Skull Island. (Click several times on negative symbol to zoom out): *http://www.bing.com/maps/?mapurl=http%3A//toolserver.org/~para/cgi-bin/kmlexport?project=en%26article=Skull_Island*

In English, what is the difference between POLL and POLE? Dictionary dot com shows the same pronunciation, as POHL. But it might be different in different languages, such as French, German, Spanish, etc.

*La Marseillaise* 1907 The best version ever filmed: *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ea44njRTw*

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