FredCDobbs

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Lux Radio Theater, William Powell, SHADOW OF A DOUBT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrgIYCyIVA

I love this expression on her face:

This was a hot book among older teens and young adults when I was coming of age in the early '60s, so I bought a copy and struggled through about 1/3 of it, but I got so bored with it, I just gave up. It meant absolutely nothing to me. Could someone please explain the plot and the book's meaning to me? Please use small words and short sentences.

I wonder if there is some deep psychological reason for this? Noir films remind me of dreams... nightmares. Could we like them so much because the bad things are happening to other people instead of us? Bad things always happen to us in our own nightmares.

A Polish actress who spoke with an exaggerated foreign accent. She was in Million Dollar Legs with WC Fields. She was born in 1906 and died in 1938 of a heart attack at the age of 32.

Lyda Roberti

The other guy is Fred Astaire, along with his sister Adele

I think there are different degrees of psychopaths. For example, the killing of one person in a lifetime, maybe for some special or seemingly justifiable reason. The killing of several people in a lifetime for various reasons. The killing of many people in a lifetime for various reasons, including "just for fun". The guy I mentioned who I saw at the post office, killed two people in anger, back in the 1980s.... his girlfriend and her lover. To me, this is not a good excuse to kill someone. However, back in the old South, this was considered "common law, justifiable homicide", and it still is in many rural towns and counties, even in some rural counties and cities in other parts of the US. In Albuquerque, if a Road Rage shootout takes place, if the guy who drew his gun second, killed the guy who drew his gun first, then that killer isn't even arrested. If it happens the other way around, the guy who draws first and kills the other guy, the first guy who draws is considered to be the "guilty" party. Shooting a stranger in your home or a garage or car burglar can be shot. In one case, the home owner missed his first shot and jumped in his car and chased the burglar about a mile and caught him and shot and killed him. The shooter was not arrested for weeks, but some local law enforcement people decided that chasing down and killing the burglar was not quite right, so they arrested the shooter and gave him some time in jail, but not much.

Yes, I know....... yes we do.

I think my own personal urban dictionary says: A psycho-path is a killer -- a "psycho", crazy, nuts, and dangerous. A socio-path does not get along well in "society" and he has frequent "social" and "socitial" problems. such as arguing with people a lot, saying the wrong thing at the wrong time, having few or no "normal" friends. If he kills people or animals (out of meaness) or destroys people's property to "get even" with them, then he is a psycho-path.

Here’s an interesting, and historic, situation where a whole town got together to kill a psychopath/sociopath and to protect his killers with silence. This was common in “the good old days” but it is fairly rare now. On the morning of July 10, 1981, after his appeal hearing was again delayed, townspeople met at the Legion Hall in the center of town with Sheriff Estes to discuss how to protect themselves. During the meeting, McElroy arrived at the D&G Tavern with Trena. As he sat drinking at the bar, word got back to the men at the Legion Hall that he was in town. After telling the assembled group not to get in a direct confrontation with McElroy, but instead seriously consider forming a neighborhood watch program, Sheriff Estes drove out of town in his police cruiser. The citizens decided to go to the tavern en masse. The bar soon filled completely. After McElroy finished his drinks, he purchased a six pack of beer, left the bar, and entered his pickup truck. While McElroy was sitting in his truck he was shot at several times and hit twice, once by a center fire rifle and once by a .22 rimfire rifle. In all, there were 46 potential witnesses to the shooting, including Trena McElroy, who was in the truck with her husband when he was shot. No one called for an ambulance.[9] Only Trena claimed to identify a gunman; every other witness either was unable to name an assailant or claimed not to have seen who fired the fatal shots.[10] The DA declined to press charges. An extensive Federal investigation did not lead to any charges. McElroy was buried at Memorial Park Cemetery in Saint Joseph, Missouri. On July 9, 1984, Trena McElroy filed a $6 million wrongful death lawsuit against the Town of Skidmore, County of Nodaway, Sheriff Danny Estes, Steve Peters (Mayor of Skidmore), and Del Clement (whom Trena accused of being the shooter, but who was never charged). The case was later settled out of court by all parties for the sum of $17,600, with no one admitting guilt, for the stated reason of avoiding costly legal fees should the suit proceed.[11] Much more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy Basically, the whole town cooperated in the killed this psychopath. There was a very good TV show made about this, called "In Broad Daylight". You can find it on the internet.

What I have learned in real life (while in the news business) is that many of the "old timers" who lived back in the 19-teens through the 40s were tough guys and they knew that they and/or their friends needed to "get" a real psychopath before the psychopath got any of them or their family members. That is to say, normal, tough, and defensive civillians would often make any local psychopath disappear, when necessary, yet they, the normal people were NOT psychopaths. This group attitude among normal people helped keep the local crime rates low back in the old days. Even if they were arrested for murdering a psychopath, a local jury of all wise white men would usually find them "not guilty" because everyone in the County knew it was "justifiable homocide" or "temporary insanity" to kill a psychopath. I personally met such a "retaliation type" killer, who I often met while he was checking the County mail box at the downtown post office. He had murdered his girlfriend and her lover, and was found guilty but with "extenuating" circumstances. So he was made a jail trustee and served only a year or so in jail. So, Gramps in The Petrified Forest had probably been one of those old "militia" types, just like his son and friends who wore the guns and militia outfits in the movie. They would have killed Duke on sight and enjoyed it very much. Yet they were not psychopaths.... Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha What was it that George Bush said about Osama bin Laden? "Wanted, Dead or Alive". Ha, ha, ha, ha, And who ordered him to be killed? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

Good question. See this: Society has conspired with Hollywood to put two seemingly-sexy psychology terms into our collective consciousness — psychopath and sociopath. Psychopath and sociopath are pop psychology terms for what psychiatry calls an antisocial personality disorder. Today, these two terms are not really well-defined in the psychology research literature. Nonetheless, there are some general differences between these two types of personality types, which we’ll talk about in this article. http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2015/02/12/differences-between-a-psychopath-vs-sociopath/

I've met plenty of psychopaths who claim to be "normal" because they didn't kill certain people, and these psychopaths often make up excuses to try to "justify" their killings, such as "he made me do it", or "it was either me or him", or "I had my gun out when I tried to rob him, then he pulled out a gun and I HAD to kill him." They often like some people for one reason or another and don't kill them. Duke Mantee was going to let Alan Squire live, at first, since that indicated to Duke that Squire "liked him" and "understood him", But Squire finally made Duke mad, and that's why he killed him. Duke was a psychopath. He didn't kill Squire to do him a favor. He did it because he was a psychopath and Squire made him mad. George Grisby killed Sidney Broome because he made Grisby mad. He was also going to kill Arthur Bannister to collect some insurance money, and then kill Michael O'hara to shut him up, and would probably kill Elsa Bannister too, and anyone else to stood in his way. Because Grisby was a psychopath. In order to save the complex plot, Welles turned Elsa into a psychopath too.

Is this some kind of game, with you as the sole judge, or are we supposed to post our opinions of psychopaths in movies? Dictionary.com noun 1. a person with a psychopathic personality, which manifests as amoral and antisocial behavior, lack of ability to love or establish meaningful personal relationships, extreme egocentricity, failure to learn from experience, etc.

Glenn Anders THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI To Orson Wells: "I wancha to kill me!"

I see. Mantee was "forced" to kill those people in the bank. I'll keep that in mind the next time I rob a bank and several people force me to kill them.

Bogart as Duke Mantee:

Edward Everett Horton

Sorry, I was just trying to be funny. Please don't blame me!!! I didn't do it to be rude!!! Aggggg..... I'm INNOCENT!!!!! See?

Ha! That's what they all say.

I grew up as a kid loving news, listening to news on the radio, reading newspapers and national magazines, then later TV. Charlie Starkweather was just about the first well-known cross-country serial killer of my early life, January 1958. His type was quite rare, and when I wa kid whenever the media talked about boy/girl cross country killers, they had to go all the way back to Bonnie and Clyde of the early 1930s. Very rare back then. The small city I lived in had about 2 to 4 murders a year. Now it has from 50 to 80 murders per year. The highest rate year was about 1994, and the number of local murders was about 112 that year. Back around 1960, there was a white bootlegger in the area who was known to have killed about 7 or 8 black men over 20 to 30 years, but he never went to jail. That was the South. I interviewed him by phone when I was about 19 or 20 years old. I also interviewed Byron de la Beckwith by phone (I knew Medgar Evers and was with him about three days before de la Beckwith killed him). I began working in news very young. I've interviewed other killers in prison and I've met and interviewed others, including Kla-n killers, leftist revolutionary killers, and other types. I met Collie Leroy Wilkins in Alabama in 1965. He spoke at a Kla-n rally in Alabama. He murdered Viola Liuzzo. I met a couple of the Kla-n/Nazi killers who had been involved in the Greesboro "massacre". etc, etc

I think his best film was the wonderful EDUCATING RITA (1983)

But what about you??