FredCDobbs

Max Steiner fans should make a point to see "Symphony of Six Million" (1932) next time it's on TCM. The music makes the audience cry every time. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023545/

These guys are so important. Their music helps make a movie great.

> do you think that i have watched too much tcm???... i > am able to recognize a max steiner film score... I > love his music.. jezabel and gone with the wind are > my favorites. Lol, yeah, me too! He's great. He also did King Kong. There is a little theme in King Kong that is also in "The Big Sleep". I wonder how a guy could write so much? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000070/

>the actors > blacklisted didn't start back to work in Hollywood > films until the early sixties. Well boo hoo hoo. Hollywood producers, studio heads, and the unions blacklisted people for years for reasons that had nothing to do with politics. When communists were in charge of productions, they blacklisted conservatives. Such is the way of a monopoly industry. You keep living in the '50s but hey, this is the 21st Century. Your side lost the cold war. Give it up. Forget it. It's a world economy now.

> Just thinking out loud, > but what genre of films suffered more from the > blacklist than noir? Noir suffered from a lack of creative ideas. There hasn't been a "blacklist" in 50 years, and there hasn't been a good noir in 60.

Yes, that's the name of it. About a crazy old guy who invented a robot. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027112/

I don't think the film was very popular. It was sort of depressing too.

She was popular in Italian films in the '50s, like Melina Mercouri was popular in Greek films. So Hollywood put both of them in a few American movies as the leading ladies. I think the Brando character was trying to hide out so he needed a job in that small Mississippi town, and she offered him a job. I thought the movie was sad because most of the characters were quite sleazy.

Anyone here see "The Fugitive Kind" when it was shown on TCM a few years ago?

Thanks for the information.

Do you know if there is anyplace on the internet where we can see some of Rockwell's paintings for the movies?

I saw some of the made-for-movies portraits at an MGM sale held in San Francisco in the mid ?70s. Up close, the ones I saw looked unfinished. They lacked a lot of detail. They were designed to be photographed at a distance and be in the background of movie scenes. Only a few had detail because they were photographed up close.

Good review. I love these kinds of old "antique" movies. It's our way of seeing some of the way people were in the 1920s, but with sound and some color. Wouldn't it be great to have some sound color film clips from the Civil War era?

I don?t know much about this movie. Based on the various reviews, apparently it was made to show the British as fools and greedy capitalists. One review said it wasn?t made by the Nazi Party and the director was overheard complaining about the Nazis and that?s why they hanged him. Several of the reviews said it had limited show times in Germany before it was banned. Seems that the Nazis didn?t want to distribute a film that showed people going down with a sinking ship, since Germany was pretty much of a sinking ship itself in 1943. I?d like to see all of the Nazi era films to see how the public in German were propagandized. I saw a documentary on the History channel about Nazi movies and it showed some film clips from several of them. Some apparently tried to prepare the people in Germany to get them to commit suicide if the US and England won the war.

http://www.stomptokyo.com/scott/blog/C351654541/E148983925/index.html http://www.classicfilmguide.com/index.php?s=other_reviews&item=450 http://www.answers.com/topic/titanic-1943-film ?Titanic was the most expensive German production up until that time and endured many production difficulties, including a clash of egos, massive creative differences and general war-time frustrations. All of this resulted in Joseph Goebbels arresting the film's director, Herbert Selpin, for treason and ordering him to be hanged in his cell the very next day.? ?Allegations about the 1997 Titanic Several commentators have observed archly their conviction that James Cameron must have been very familiar with the 1943 Nazi propaganda film when writing and filming his own Titanic. Several story aspects are in both films but not in any other Titanic version: e.g., the salt of the earth non-British Hero orders his girlfriend into a lifeboat. She hesitantly complies and watches her love disappear behind the railing as the lifeboat is lowered (though she does not jump out in the 1943 film); a young, dashing male lead coaches the girl he loves that she should not marry the man for whom she feels nothing - just because her parents ordered her to do so; a stolen jewelry subplot [a character is accused of a jewel theft (including a blue diamond) he did not commit]; one main character gets locked in a flooding cabin as another rescues him with an axe (a depiction of an actual event on the Titanic); etc. Additionally many of the scene compositions and camera angles are uncannily similar.?

This is a rare version of "Titanic", made in Germany in 1943. It will be on: 2:15 AM til 3:45 AM Eastern Early Monday Morning. Running time 85 minutes. http://www.jimusnr.com/Titanic1943.html http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036443/

> I think there's an interesting paradox going on here. > How is the tightly-knit community that stifled > individualism as praised in Our Daily Bread > different from the tightly-knit small town that > stifled individualism which was lampooned in another > of Sunday's offerings, Theodora Goes Wild? > > The America of today seems to have a rather > schizophrenic view on the living arrangements and > culture of the small town and previous generations. > On the one hand, people whinge about individual > consumption and people not caring about each other, > and looking at the Norman Rockwell image as the > halcyon days. Yet on the other hand, people seem to > whinge as well at the "conformity" this apparently > brings, as expressed in things like the original > Stepford Wives, or today's popular TV show > Desperate Housewives. You?ve got a good point, but let?s face it, everybody can not all be pleased by the same way of life. So some will always complain about the old commune life shown in the movie, others will complain about the conformity of life in the ?50s, and others will complain about all the ?diversity? that is forced on us today. I like to pick my own ?diversity?. I don?t want some liberal in New York or Hollywood to force their ideal of ?diversity? on me. As a young teenager in the South back in the ?50s, I didn?t notice too much conformity, and I liked the security and stability of that life. It was safe and without much crime. But by the time I got to college the conformity did begin to irritate me. When I was about 26 I moved to San Francisco. But after 10 years in California, I got tired of all the diverse crackpots, hippies, wackos, etc. in California, so I moved back to the South in the late ?70s. I knew some teenagers in the late ?50s who disliked the conformity of the South and they couldn?t wait until they could leave and go to California. I knew others who eventually went to New York. I was the California type so I went to California for a while, but some of my friends moved to New York and stayed there all their lives. I went back to the South in the late ?70s and I found the old security but I also found new freedom and a lack of enforced conformity. I think maybe if we feel that the conformity or the dirversity is forced upon us, we don?t like either.

Hey! He did the music for Double Indemnity! That was great music.

> Fred, > > I watched "The Killers" (1946) last night and I kept > thinking of another of my favorite movies..."The > Strange Love Of Martha Ivers" (1946). "The Killers" > is a lean and mean crime drama. "The Strange Love Of > Martha Ivers" is more melodrama than crime drama. > So, why does one movie remind me of the other movie? > > I just looked up "The Strange Love Of Martha Ivers" > on IMDB and the music is composed by Mikl?s R?zsa. > Pretty good call (connection-wise) on my part...huh? Hmm.... now I'll have to see all Mikl?s R?zsa movies!

> For those now interested in Dragnet and He > Walked By Night, they are both being shown on TCM > January 28th in a evening saluting Jack Webb. > > Kyle In Hollywood Thanks for the information. I haven't seen the Dragnet movie since '54. We used to listen to the Dragnet radio show in the late '40s, then we watched the TV show in the early '50s, then we saw the movie in '54. Man, those were "modern times" to me. To be able to first hear the radio show, then see the TV show, then see the color movie on the big screen.

Have you seen "He Walked by Night" with Richard Basehart? Jack Webb is in it. I think this was the model for the TV show.

Interesting, thanks.

Hey, did you see "The Kid Glove Killer" last week with Van Heflin playing the crime lab detective? I just found out that Ava Gardner was in it. She had one scene and two lines as a car hop at a drive-in restaurant.

The key connection seems to be Mikl?s R?zsa, who worked on the music for The Killers and the TV show you have in mind. However, the movie that the TV show was most alike was "He Walked By Night". It starts out with a downtown scene of L.A., and goes through a narration such as..."This is the city.... Los Angeles California.... blah blah. This is a true story, the names have been changed to protect the innocent." http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040427/fullcredits http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000067/

Is it dom de dom-dom? (Also known as da da-da daaa.) I also hear ta-ta ta-ta.